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DaneMcCloud 04-06-2020 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 14890887)
Reading comprehension. Read slower and the words might form in your head.

:facepalm:

Why don't you spend some time learning about positional value in the NFL draft because clearly, you're completely ****ing clueless, n00b.

MahomesMagic 04-06-2020 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 14890901)
:facepalm:

Why don't you spend some time learning about positional value in the NFL draft because clearly, you're completely ****ing clueless, n00b.


Actual NFL teams disagree with your approach and are spending 1st round picks on interior OL. I think I will side with them over you.

The NFL is changing. NFL defenses (obviously you have missed this) find the fastest path to the QB is straight up the middle (also why Chris Jones is about to get paid). The counter to that is having elite protection up the middle.

O.city 04-06-2020 05:07 PM

I wouldn’t be opposed to a center

Wouldn’t be my first choice. Frankly I don’t care who they pick this year though

DaneMcCloud 04-06-2020 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 14890906)
Actual NFL teams disagree with your approach and are spending 1st round picks on interior OL. I think I will side with them over you.

The NFL is changing. NFL defenses (obviously you have missed this) find the fastest path to the QB is straight up the middle (also why Chris Jones is about to get paid). The counter to that is having elite protection up the middle.

This is just outright ****ing stupid.

The Chiefs have FAR bigger needs than to waste #32 overall on a center.

CB, WR, RB and LB should all take precedence over a center in this draft, period.

MahomesMagic 04-06-2020 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14890909)
I wouldn’t be opposed to a center

Wouldn’t be my first choice. Frankly I don’t care who they pick this year though

My first choice would be a linebacker if the value was there. Corner would also be great.

But the issue is Queen probably gone. Fulton gone. Henderson is soft.

You can't force the issue just because you want a LB or CB. At that point I take the elite center, stack my offense more and see what the next round brings.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04-06-2020 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 14890914)
My first choice would be a linebacker if the value was there. Corner would also be great.

But the issue is Queen probably gone. Fulton gone. Henderson is soft.

You can't force the issue just because you want a LB or CB. At that point I take the elite center, stack my offense more and see what the next round brings.

Nah Fulton will probably still be there

DaneMcCloud 04-06-2020 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14890909)
I wouldn’t be opposed to a center

Wouldn’t be my first choice. Frankly I don’t care who they pick this year though

I care.

This team lost games because of their lack of talented and effective running backs. The offense didn't perform nearly as well without Hill and Watkins while Robinson is maybe their 4th option at WR, who's only on a one year deal.

If they trade out of #32, they can address RB, CB, WR and maybe LB but if they're stuck, they'll be missing out on a lot of talent in this draft.

Drafting a center isn't a priority, it's a luxury and one the Chiefs don't have with only 5 picks.

MahomesMagic 04-06-2020 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14890919)
Nah Fulton will probably still be there

Really? That would be great. In that case I take Fulton. But again, I doubt he makes it to us.

Tribal Warfare 04-06-2020 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 14890901)
:facepalm:

Why don't you spend some time learning about positional value in the NFL draft because clearly, you're completely ****ing clueless, n00b.



I would agree with Patrick on the positional value goes out the window concerning the offense. I would be so pissed if they pulled a true fan with Alex on the team because everything had to be a well oiled machine. Yes, CBs and LBs are an immediate need I even agreed, but that was before Mahomes got injured which changed said priorities.

I'll be honest it's a point of hysteria for me.

O.city 04-06-2020 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 14890922)
I care.

This team lost games because of their lack of talented and effective running backs. The offense didn't perform nearly as well without Hill and Watkins while Robinson is maybe their 4th option at WR, who's only on a one year deal.

If they trade out of #32, they can address RB, CB, WR and maybe LB but if they're stuck, they'll be missing out on a lot of talent in this draft.

Drafting a center isn't a priority, it's a luxury and one the Chiefs don't have with only 5 picks.

If the center is a day one starter and a legit player, it wouldn’t be a problem

They can grab a wr or a rb in round two with good value. I’d rather try and get a couple of 2nds and add a 3rd or something anyway

MahomesMagic 04-06-2020 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 14890934)
I would agree with Patrick on the positional value goes out the window concerning the offense. I would be so pissed if they pulled a true fan with Alex on the team because everything had to be a well oiled machine. Yes, CBs and LBs are an immediate need I even agreed, but that was before Mahomes got injured which changed said priorities.

I'll be honest it's a point of hysteria for me.

You can hide one guy below average on most NFL lines.

The issue with the Chiefs is Guard-Center-Guard is all held together with wire.

One elite player added (especially center) and then the whole thing improves. Look at the Saints last year. I had McCoy as a 1st round pick he fell to the 2nd and the Saints snapped him up. They were able to run effective offense with crappy rag arm Bridgewater, Kamara, and Thomas. Why? Because they spend assets on OL.

No matter what happens, IOL is a need. It improves the run game as well as protects our franchise player.

Tribal Warfare 04-06-2020 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 14890950)
You can hide one guy below average on most NFL lines.

The issue with the Chiefs is Guard-Center-Guard is all held together with wire.

One elite player added (especially center) and then the whole thing improves. Look at the Saints last year. I had McCoy as a 1st round pick he fell to the 2nd and the Saints snapped him up. They were able to run effective offense with crappy rag arm Bridgewater, Kamara, and Thomas. Why? Because they spend assets on OL.

No matter what happens, IOL is a need. It improves the run game as well as protects our franchise player.

RB is a need too, the question that must be answered which one helps Patrick immediately. It could very well a RB and vice versa

DaneMcCloud 04-06-2020 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14890945)
If the center is a day one starter and a legit player, it wouldn’t be a problem

They can grab a wr or a rb in round two with good value. I’d rather try and get a couple of 2nds and add a 3rd or something anyway

I don't care if he's a "legit" player.

The Chiefs biggest needs are CB, LB, WR and RB and it would be foolish to take a center at #32 overall, which is way far down the list of priorities.

DaneMcCloud 04-06-2020 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 14890950)
It improves the run game as well as protects our franchise player.

It doesn't improve the "run game" when you've got shit at the RB position, which is what the Chiefs currently have on their roster.

There is no ****ing way you're to convince anyone with a brain that a center should be the Chiefs first selection.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04-06-2020 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 14890924)
Really? That would be great. In that case I take Fulton. But again, I doubt he makes it to us.

Yea every mock draft I have seen he’s either projected to us or out of the first round. Bryce Hall falls to the second round. Patrick Queen is Projected 4 spots ahead of us to the Ravens. I can’t see Veach trading up


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