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staylor26 05-06-2021 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15664616)
Nick Bolton was the 58th overall pick.

People have lost their ****ing minds.

This all comes down to not picking a certain person. It has nothing to do with the value of the pick because people are talking out of both sides of their mouth.

100%

They didn’t pick MY guy, so I’m going to bitch about a guy that we got at 58 that was a consensus late 1st to mid 2nd.

RunKC 05-06-2021 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15664613)
1. Nick Bolton had elite production and his ability to play downhill and knock people the **** out is absolutely an elite “trait” along with his instincts, football IQ, and leadership qualities.

2. Joshua Kaindoh was not a “high pick”.

This isn’t the your dad’s football generation anymore. “Knocking people the **** out” isn’t legal anymore.

He did that in college last year and got ejected from the game

RunKC 05-06-2021 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15664616)
Nick Bolton was the 58th overall pick.

People have lost their ****ing minds.

This all comes down to not picking a certain person. It has nothing to do with the value of the pick because people are talking out of both sides of their mouth.

It was a pick based on need, not BPA. Not sure why that’s debatable

staylor26 05-06-2021 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15664664)
This isn’t the your dad’s football generation anymore. “Knocking people the **** out” isn’t legal anymore.

He did that in college last year and got ejected from the game

Yea, because you can’t hit people hard legally in the NFL. I didn’t literally mean knock people out. JFC man. There are countless examples of him laying the wood legally.

The hit he was ejected for shouldn’t have been an ejection, and likely wouldn’t be in the NFL. Besides, that’s one ****ing play in his entire career.

staylor26 05-06-2021 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15664668)
It was a pick based on need, not BPA. Not sure why that’s debatable

This is so ****ing dumb.

He was a consensus late 1st round to mid 2nd round prospect. DJ had him in his top 32 and he was taken at pick 58. No matter how many times you say this stupid ****ing shit, you’re still wrong.

kccrow 05-06-2021 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 15664152)
High picks should have both production and elite traits.

Which are hard to get outside the first round as a package but does exist.

Had that been the case, the Chiefs should have taken Paulson Adebo and Humphrey.

htismaqe 05-07-2021 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15664668)
It was a pick based on need, not BPA. Not sure why that’s debatable

ROFL

Absolutely not.

He was a CONSENSUS low 30's pick. Who as BPA if he wasn't?

They addressed a need with a VALUE pick, it really can't be argued unless you're just making shit up to be upset about.

staylor26 05-07-2021 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15665209)
ROFL

Absolutely not.

He was a CONSENSUS low 30's pick. Who as BPA if he wasn't?

They addressed a need with a VALUE pick, it really can't be argued unless you're just making shit up to be upset about.

Clearly Dyami Brown who went 24 picks later, duh!

Dunerdr 05-07-2021 09:42 AM

Why does this feel like Matt Lane vs. Chiefsplanet? RIP AP pod. Was a fan.

MahomesMagic 05-07-2021 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15665221)
Clearly Dyami Brown who went 24 picks later, duh!

Not a fan of the Bolton pick but I was even less enthused about Dyami.

At least we have a cheap Hitchens replacement and it helps our cap.

htismaqe 05-07-2021 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 15665257)
Not a fan of the Bolton pick but I was even less enthused about Dyami.

At least we have a cheap Hitchens replacement and it helps our cap.

If Bolton becomes a full-time starter at MLB and replaces Hitchens, I mean, I get wanting more but that's a pretty good 2nd round pick all things considered.

DaneMcCloud 05-07-2021 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15664616)
Nick Bolton was the 58th overall pick.

People have lost their ****ing minds.

This all comes down to not picking a certain person. It has nothing to do with the value of the pick because people are talking out of both sides of their mouth.

I wasn't thrilled with the pick because I would have preferred a CB, S or WR but it's not as if LB wasn't a need. I mean, the Chiefs haven't had a dynamic linebacking corp since when, the 60's?

The combination of Gay, Hitchens and Bolton this season will ensure that a good linebacker is on the field on every down. Bolton's addition will be critical in limiting the ground attack of the opponent and if the Chiefs can get an additional stop or two on 3rd down in each game, it's going to take quite a bit of pressure off of Mahomes and the offense, so they won't feel as if they need to score 45 every game in order to win.

RunKC 05-07-2021 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15665209)
ROFL

Absolutely not.

He was a CONSENSUS low 30's pick. Who as BPA if he wasn't?

They addressed a need with a VALUE pick, it really can't be argued unless you're just making shit up to be upset about.

Damien Wilson gone. Dumpster fire Ben Neimann is the projected starter.

Outright biggest hole on the entire roster, not even close. Our first pick fills that glaring need. This isn’t difficult to grasp.

And why is it controversial? We had a huge need and the GM filled it with a big asset. There’s nothing wrong with that

staylor26 05-07-2021 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15665334)
Damien Wilson gone. Dumpster fire Ben Neimann is the projected starter.

Outright biggest hole on the entire roster, not even close.

Our first pick fills that glaring need. This isn’t difficult to grasp

:facepalm:

By that logic, every single pick was a need pick. JFC.

You’re completely ignoring the facts about Bolton in favor of a narrative. You do this stupid ****ing shit all of the time.

RunKC 05-07-2021 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15665341)
:facepalm:

By that logic, every single pick was a need pick. JFC.

You’re completely ignoring the facts about Bolton in favor of a narrative. You do this stupid ****ing shit all of the time.

You defend every move the team makes.

Dude no offense but if Adolph Hitler was still alive and hired as a Chief consultant you’d be defending him saying he really wasn’t that bad LMAO


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