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ModSocks 10-27-2020 02:14 PM

He's a good QB on a bad team with worse coaching.

Romeo ****ing Crennel, guys, c'mon.

Deberg_1990 10-27-2020 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15280071)
He's a good QB on a bad team with worse coaching.

Romeo ****ing Crennel, guys, c'mon.

but Crennel gets credit for developing Derek Anderson

ModSocks 10-27-2020 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 15280066)
I'd remove Wentz from that list, but I'd put more names on it. Guys I'd take for sure right now over

Mahomes
Wilson
Rogers
Brees
L Jackson
Stafford
Tannehill
Brady
Roethlisberg
Kyler Murray
Josh Allen
Jared Goff
Derek Carr

I would consider taking these guys over him

Burrow
Herbert

I know it's not a perfect way to judge a QBs performance, but looking at QBR Watson has been a roller coaster and peaked his rookie season with an 83.6 during 6 starts that year and hasn't come close to that number again.

2017 - 83.6
2018 - 60.7
2019 - 71.2
2020 - 71.1

His rookie year if he had continued that pace and become a qualifier he would have been far above everyone as the highest rated QB that year. Since then he has been ranked

'18 - 15th
'19 - 7th
'20 - 15th

I'm not saying that he has been terrible, but God damn eventually you gotta place a little blame on the player.


Brees - He's better than Brees right now, no doubt.
Stafford -Has never won anything, aging.
Tannehill - He's better than Tannehill. Tannehill has a far superior team and coaching staff.
Brady - GMAFB. Give Watson those weapons and see what happens. Brady is still an immobile douche who's about to retire.
Roethlisberg - The guy who just threw 3 INTS and who's passing game is mostly a bunch of screen and short throws?
Jared Goff -Another GMAFB...
Derek Carr - :rolleyes:

Burrow - Still has a lot to prove
Herbert - Still has a lot to prove

htismaqe 10-27-2020 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15280084)
Tannehill - He's better than Tannehill. Tannehill has a far superior team and coaching staff.

No. Just no.

St. Patty's Fire 10-27-2020 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15280146)
No. Just no.

Ya I can't agree with that in any way.

Foles got hot a few times. Tannehill has been consistently very good since going to Tennessee. Getting away from Adam Gase probably helped. He also flashed plenty of potential under Gase, but he had issues staying healthy.

Foles is just Fitzpatrick with a ring.

edit: thought I was in the Foles thread lmao

Buehler445 10-27-2020 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15279602)
Trading Hopkins didn't screw Watson, it EXPOSED him.

Watson was used to throwing low probability passes and watching Hopkins' exceptional catch radius bail him out.

Watson isn't great and all BOB did was show people that.

Exactly. Watsons always been a **** it chuck it guy. All the way back to college.

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 15279315)
I've been saying for ****ing years Hopkins catches an awful lot of **** it chuck it balls Watson wings in his general direction.

Hopkins is really REALLY ****ing good at 50/50 balls.


ModSocks 10-27-2020 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15280146)
No. Just no.

What part is no?

You don't think Watson could replicate and even do better than Tannehill if they swapped teams?

ModSocks 10-27-2020 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by St. Patty's Fire (Post 15280170)
Ya I can't agree with that in any way.

Foles got hot a few times. Tannehill has been consistently very good since going to Tennessee. Getting away from Adam Gase probably helped. He also flashed plenty of potential under Gase, but he had issues staying healthy.

Foles is just Fitzpatrick with a ring.

We talkin' Foles or Watson?

St. Patty's Fire 10-27-2020 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15280246)
We talkin' Foles or Watson?

i thought i was in the foles/nagy thread when i posted that lmao

Watson is a totally different story. I think he's a bit overrated but if he were on the Titans I think he'd be pretty beast

htismaqe 10-27-2020 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15280242)
What part is no?

You don't think Watson could replicate and even do better than Tannehill if they swapped teams?

Nope, I don't.

Deberg_1990 10-27-2020 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15280253)
Nope, I don't.

You dont think Andy Reid could coach Watson up?

htismaqe 10-27-2020 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15280265)
You dont think Andy Reid could coach Watson up?

I don't think Watson could handle the offense. He's not a precision QB, he's a spray and pray QB most of the time.

Deberg_1990 10-27-2020 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15280277)
He's not a precision QB, he's a spray and pray QB most of the time.

Yea, guys like that are going to look spectacular at times, then horrible at others.

Megatron96 10-27-2020 03:42 PM

At least this year, Wentz has proven that he's better than Watson. Wentz has found a way to be productive with a cast of practice squad players, at pretty much every skill position. Watson still has some legit starters, albeit not a WR1 or a RB1, but has pretty much regressed so far.

htismaqe 10-27-2020 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15280292)
At least this year, Wentz has proven that he's better than Watson. Wentz has found a way to be productive with a cast of practice squad players, at pretty much every skill position. Watson still has some legit starters, albeit not a WR1 or a RB1, but has pretty much regressed so far.

Because outside of his injury problems, Wentz is still a smart, accurate QB for the most part.

Watson absolutely had Hopkins as a safety blanket. Just chuck it up there and let Hopkins take care of it. Without that, Watson becomes very ordinary. He needs a DK Metcalf guy out there.


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