Props to Spags & The D
 

We didn't do real great against the run but we played a good game. Jackson got 2 TD's that were the result of plays that were nothing more than just plain LUCK! And one was a push off that didn't get called.

Key parts of the game:

Clark gets the sack at a crucial time
2, not 1 but 2 or even 3(?), 2-pt conversions stopped
Contained a very mobile QB in Jackson
Passing game for the Ravens was mostly luck. Coverage was there all game.


I'm liking what I am seeing so far. Need to tighten it up on the run a bit but the Ravens are a great running team. Keep improving and we have a solid middle of the pack defense.

Linebackers were shit and I’m not sure how Jones is doing vs. the run. Mathieu was great mostly.

Overall I’ll take it. They should only get better as they come together in the new scheme.

LB's were great in coverage if you ask me.

Jackson is a talented player. He's a lucky chuckle ****. But he's talented.

Run defense has to get better.

We allowed 450 yards and 28 points. The defense was ****ing trash.

I thought they went 0-3 on 2pters?

Honey Badger did gud today, so did OgBah

First TD and last 2

I thought they missed out on 3 2pt attempts.

Dude, I don't give a **** about yards when our offense scores as fast as they do. The 28 points were aided by 2 very lucky plays by the Ravens.

Okay, well, even better!

Have to agree. The defense started off strong but really felt apart in the second half.

This run defense might be worse than Sutton's and now we don't have the pass rushing horses we used to.. The Pats will gash us on the ground.

How overrated is Lamar Jackson..? They were getting worked until they took the ball out of his hands and gave it to Ingram. He sucked today

The defense severely limited the second most explosive offense in football. They missed a couple tackles, but overall they played a very solid game.

Breeland is looking like a guy they should try to keep.

What game were you guys watching? They STILL can't tackle. They're soft as jello!

Linebackers sucked ass today. Out of position and couldn't tackle!

Ravens went up and down the field at ease. Jackson overthrew a ton of open recievers!

Chiefs D sucked ass!

I’m not sure what to take away from today.

I wonder if they were sorta playing on their heels because they didn’t want to give Jackson huge open running lanes, which can happen when you overpursue.

We were good against the pass for most of the game I thought. Jackson got EXTREMELY lucky on a couple of plays (the throw back across the field, the obvious OPI).

No excuse for all the missed tackles. The offensive scheme you’re playing against has zero impact on your ability to wrap up.

Good lord you’re annoying.

If you’re gonna bitch about the defense all week, every week, stop acting surprised and bullish when the numbers aren’t super pretty.

Oh I didn't know lucky plays don't count.

We got gashed all ****ing day long. We're lucky harbaugh stupidly abandoned the run in the 2nd quarter and on the 2 point tries.

Was happy with our coverage today. They made some lucky plays. Two heaves into the heavens that were completed but we seemed to get gashed quite a bit.

Our LB's suck at stopping the run.

This D looks completely different than when Sutton was in control. Bravo Spags!

How much was once we went into a prevent defense late in the game, though? Also, Baltimore was the top scoring team in the league coming into this week

Dude, they had the offense going for it on 4th down, chucking up prayer passes and stuff a few 2-pt conversions. They played fine. The run defense has to pick up but the Ravens are a running team regardless of the JAckson hype.

Thread about defense.

I talk about how the defense performed.


You get annoyed.

Uh...okay....

I agree pete. And a nice bit of adjustment after just a couple drives.

Hard to keep a running team like that down all game.

Lots of garbage yards and lucky throws by Jackson. The game was never in doubt.

Good gameplan by Spags (conceding the run, forcing Lamar to beat them through the air).

He also made some adjustments in game, which is more than we saw Bob ever do.


**** Sutton with a thousand hot suns!

You mean like when they ran it on the 1st 2pt try and we stuffed them?

Lamar does make playing D a little harder.

One things for sure, the Ravens found out what it was like to play a good team. the Chiefs ain't no Cards. or Phins.

outside of the first drive of each half Ravens were trash. D was great today.

Wonder how the talking heads are going to react to this one. Last I heard most of them were thinking Jackson is the new MVP.

Brady is only gonna throw the ball 14 times when we face him. Runs all day long.

You can't call a day in which your defense gives up like 8 YPC and 4 TDs a good day. I'll give them credit for stiffening up when required, particularly on the 2-point conversions and that super crucial 4th down that completely changed the game, but Lamar Jackson is not a great passer yet. He was missing open guys all game.

We gave up 21 points. We win giving that up 100% of the time.

Unfortunately the refs missed a blatant OPI gifting them a TD

Also Lamar had at least 4 dropped INTs, essentially he was playing a truly charmed game through blind luck

Run defense still needs a lotta work, they got gashed pretty much all day

But overall this group has a much different, more scheme sound flavor to it than old man Bobs group... just make incremental strides each week, and they’ll be fine down the stretch

4th quarter they shit the bed and let the Ravens back in the game.

There were a lot of positives in the first 3 quarters.

This is the second time in 3 games the defense has given up 2 TD's in the 4th quarter.

Gotta get better and stop that shit. Defense is lacking a killer instinct right now.

Not sure "great" is the word I'd use.

Acceptable seems more reasonable.

Ward better learn how to aggressively attack the ball, and when knocking it down is just as good as a pick.

We apparently did not watch the same game.

Props to Spags. Strong pass rush and coverage all day. Run defense work in progress. But Ingram is a great back.

We actually made Jackson look pretty bad despite his numbers. I'm OK with this performance.

No props due on that shit show. We got nearly beat when we should have won by 21

Ward and Breeland both played well today. So did Fuller.

Honestly the entire secondary played well.

I’ll give the D a +C.

I thought chiefs might get Ramsey and actually do good on defense with it being home opener and crowd noise.

I picked up the Chiefs defense and started them in fantasy football. Huge mistake. They got 2 points. Lol

Was anyone else as pissed as I was watching Sorenson sit in the end zone and allow Lamar Jackson to waltz in for the TD?

Tackling today gets an F grade, for sure. Just no aggression or fundamentals whatsoever.

Numbers? The can't even tackle, man! They were complete trash today. Period!

Nah. Baltimore and Jackson are pretty damned good. Ingram got yards when we were expecting pass, which is a good call by them, but this isn't Sutton's defense.

Yup.

Reminded me a lot of the 2017 game against the Texans where we were in control the whole game and Watson was getting all kinds of lucky bullshit on deep throws.

That Jacksonoville game was garbage time shit....so not even going there

The tackling was crap, I agree, but the lack of aggression was entirely due to them wanting to prevent Jackson making a big play behind them. It is sometimes painful to watch, but it worked.

Well, the "Lucky Balls" were completed because our defense is just dumb. On that throwback across the field, our DB (can't remember who) was settling under it like a fly ball (cuz it was) and still allows the catch. It was lucky for Jackson that our DB's are stupid. The one on the goal line...fine, looked like OPI but it never should have been completed.

I saw a LOT of piss poor tackling, a lot of guys assuming the tackle was made only to have Ingram go for a few more yards.

Look, I still think the D was better most of the time, but when they were bad, they were lose the game bad. We still roll with our offense and hope the defense won't shit the bed.

Left some INTS on the field... GET MORE AGGRESSIVE TO THE BALL!!

Better than last year. Secondary is better. Dline still sucks.

Of course, this is the kind of smashmouth goon squad that we don't really match up with very well. So I'll take it.

Glad we're playing the Lions next week and not the Chargers.

We still have too many "Ron Parkers" on the defense.

Guys who avoid tackling if they can. Standing around the pile, pulling up like they are trying to avoid a penalty when they are really avoiding the hit.

We are better than last year though. :thumb:

Ravens have a very good o-line. They get paid to play as well. This new defense, barring injury, is going to improve as the season goes on. And the Chiefs won't have to overcompensate for a top running QB every game either.

Dirty Dan also should’ve had Ingram stopped on a big first down run, but went in with a cheap shoulder thinking everyone else had him stopped

Clark and Honeybadger were supposed to change the culture of the defense.....they didn't! This is defense is garbage and were exposed today.

Teams will now run all day and with a better passing QB to seal the deal against our Chiefs.

Xavier Williams is a huge liability out there. Has to be someone on the street right now who can play better then him!

I can't agree.

They did a really good job of corralling Jackson, no doubt, but I'm specifically talking about tackling the backs. Guys were just putting in piss poor effort, no one was flying to the ball carrier. It's like no one wanted to be the guy to make the tackle. I've seen that in Sutton's defenses for the last couple seasons. It looked a lot like last year.

Yeah, we got "exposed"...LMAO

They still need to go through tackling drills a few times. :shake:

They allowed 13 points through three quarters and only allowed a couple scores when the game was largely over. I might suggest your expectations are unreasonable.

He did make a good play knifing through and wrapping up Jackson's legs on the first 2-point attempt, I'll give him that. He still sucks though.

Yup. Chris Jones needs some money. Ogbah is my new favorite.

Luck is part of the game. You can't blame players for bad luck. The tackling was a concern, but as far as our coverage it was their best game of the year.

The defense went into prevent.

Patriots have had garbage time for 3 straight weeks and not given up any TD's.

We keep playing 4th quarters like this and we will get burned eventually....so tighten it up, cut that shit out, and this defense will start looking pretty decent.

I don't think it's drills, i think it's effort. It hurts to tackle someone and you must be willing to pay the price in pain to be a good tackler. Our secondary is not motivated enough to pay that price. Coaching makes a real difference with this. I have never seen an Andy Reid team that was mean and tough.

when Reid decides the game is over he goes into turtle mode. He's been around long enough people should know this.

Game was over before halftime.

Those lucky ****ing plays man. Holy shit.

The Pats have not played an NFL team yet. Who gives a shit?

I would argue they did that way too ****ing soon. We had to get a first down in the last two minutes to seal the win...should have never come to that.

The whole 4th quarter was shit D. 15 points and all kinds of yards given up. It has to get better.

Keep playing with fire and we will get burned.

Ingram is a good back and the Ravens are a legit offense until someone breaks Lamar and he stops being the feature back in their offense. By containing his shifty lil' ass and coming up with a few plays the Chiefs won a game with playoff implications in about 14 more weeks.
Defense grade B-.

Offense looked average at best today. Yeah, they popped a couple big plays but they couldn't run it for 90% of the game. But they did manage 33 points. O-line isn't looking as good as I hoped unless the Ravens and the Raiders d-lines are really that good.
Offense grade C+

At times, yes.

Who the **** have the Pats played? Miami????? WOW!

Yea right!:spock: Cause the culture this year is a helluva lot worse than previous years.

Considering who and how the Ravens play I'd say they did a good job other than needing to tackle a bit better. But ****, they were playing against the RB that has most yrds after contact in the last 3 years.(That's what Mitch said)

People always love to say stuff like this as if there's no reason that teams should ever do it.

People here would bitch if KC put up 100 and gave up 1 yard on defense.

I don't think they expected Baltimore to come out running the ball after halftime any more than I do. I mean, they were down 23-6, playing like they were the team with the lead. And, you know what, I'm kind of okay with that. If the Ravens want a 5 minute drive to start the half when they're down 17, then, shit, let em go for it. I thought it was really dumb, at the time. Thought that all they were doing was shortening the game and making it harder on themselves to catch up. And as it turns out, that was the case. They ran out of time.

And the two bombs that padded Jackson's stats in the fourth quarter, one was a PI they got away with and the other one we should've played like it was a hail mary, and not tried to catch it.

The defense did its job, in the end. They forced a FG when they needed to, and they held on the 2 point conversion. They kept them under 30, which is what you need to win with this offense. And shit, not gonna win pretty every week, and that game wasn't nearly as ugly as either the score or the yardage stats made it look.

My takeaways: Need to continue to work on the run defense. We had trouble tackling Ingram today, and I'm not sure why; tackling had been much better in previous games. I thought Thornhill had maybe his toughest game so far, but that's the learning curve for a young safety. On the flip side, I thought this was the first time the Mathieu looked good this season. The coverage is improving every week, across the board. We're starting to see some push from the defensive line on pass plays. We're starting to see a little more creativity with stunts and blitzes.

All in all, we're 3 games into a complete defensive overhaul, both personnel and system, and it's pretty much going exactly like you'd expect. Some good plays, some costly breakdowns.