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tredadda 10-25-2020 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15275859)
Nah. Bill>Brady.

All you have to do is imagine Brady going to the Jets/Browns/Bucs or whoever when he was drafted and you have your answer. Bill created the culture and the lockerroom in NE, brought in a 7th round gangly game-manager QB and forged him into a good QB. Hell, he did the same thing with Bledsoe before Brady.

That culture only works with a HOF QB. That's one of the reasons every assistant that leaves NE fails trying to implement the "Patriot Way".

PAChiefsGuy 10-25-2020 08:29 PM

No head coach can make chicken salad out of chicken shit. Brady vs BB is a player vs HC, which is an unfair comparison. Coaches don't play the game, they coach so of course the players playing will have a bigger impact..

Brady is in a great situation, BB not so much. Pats don't have the talent to be good this season, the Bucs do. Don't forget Pats had a couple players opt out for COVID and lost a QB who has been with them for over a decade.

BB is still the GOAT HC as far as I am concerned. They may have a bad season but it doesn't mean BB is a bad coach. BB the GM on the other hand is another story...

Red Dawg 10-25-2020 08:29 PM

Pats had too many opt outs and Cam sucks. Brady is on a team so talented he can't lose much. Only injuries will derail them.

Megatron96 10-25-2020 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 15275869)
That culture only works with a HOF QB. That's one of the reasons every assistant that leaves NE fails trying to implement the "Patriot Way".

Bill still won nearly twice as many games as he lost when he had to start someone else besides Brady.

Brady would've been a "one-and-done" QB if he'd gone to a bottom tier organization.

Prison Bitch 10-25-2020 08:30 PM

Oh this is funny as f***.

Bucs were just LOADED! That’s it. That must be it. Suuuure.

KC_Connection 10-25-2020 08:32 PM

They’re both overrated cheating frauds but I hate Brady more so I went with Belichick.

tk13 10-25-2020 08:33 PM

Bill the GM is probably the bigger issue here than Bill the coach or Brady the QB. If you gave Belichick the Bucs LB group they'd be looking like the 86 Giants out there right now.

Bl00dyBizkitz 10-25-2020 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 15275894)
Oh this is funny as f***.

Bucs were just LOADED! That’s it. That must be it. Suuuure.

I mean. It's a hell of a lot better situation town in Tampa. Can you seriously not handle any other opinion outside your own?

Third Eye 10-25-2020 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 15275904)
I mean. It's a hell of a lot better situation town in Tampa. Can you seriously not handle any other opinion outside your own?

You must be new here.

NWTF 10-25-2020 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15275893)
Bill still won nearly twice as many games as he lost when he had to start someone else besides Brady.

Brady would've been a "one-and-done" QB if he'd gone to a bottom tier organization.

It'll need to play itself out. Who can win without the other. As HC Bill has time on his side once Bradys days are over.

Prison Bitch 10-25-2020 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 15275904)
I mean. It's a hell of a lot better situation town in Tampa. Can you seriously not handle any other opinion outside your own?


Look at the results buddy. This ain’t “opinion” as of today.

O.city 10-25-2020 08:39 PM

Coaching only goes so far then you need talent

It’s a weird year with all the covid stuff so I won’t really hold that against him.

But yeah, I’d think the qb is more important to the coach than vice versa

IowaHawkeyeChief 10-25-2020 08:41 PM

They have a shadow of their defense with guys opting out for Covid-19... I think it was a combo as we see Reid doing great things with a true Great QB. To be fair, other coach's could ruin great QBs and they never are as good as they should have been...

alpha_omega 10-25-2020 08:41 PM

Not official. Post again if TBDouche wins another SB.

St. Patty's Fire 10-25-2020 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 15275854)
2-4 is good?

Losing record without Brady is good?

You are so stupid it is actually painful


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