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RealSNR 04-30-2019 02:31 PM

Minnesota Vikings draft:

1.18 (1.11) - Jonah Williams, OT, Alabama (+7)
2.50 (5.139) - Deionte Thompson, S, Alabama (-89)
3.82 (2.44) - Elgton Jenkins, C, Mississippi State (+32)
4.121- (4.125) - Renell Wren, DT, Houston (-4)
6.192- (6.211) - Rodney Anderson, RB, Oklahoma (-19)
6.211 (2.52) - Drew Sample, TE, Washington (+159)
7.249 (6.174) - Keesean Johnson, WR, Fresno State (+75)
7.252 (7.238) - Stephen Denmark, CB, Valdosta State (+14)

TOTAL: (+175)

Thank you Cincinnati Bengals for overdrafting the everliving **** out of Drew Sample!

RealSNR 04-30-2019 02:38 PM

Packers draft:

1.12 (1.20) - Noah Fant, TE, Iowa (-8)
1.30 (1.17) - Dexter Lawrence, DT, Clemson (+13)
2.44 (1.28) - Jerry Tillery, DT, Notre Dame (+16)
3.76 (UDFA) - Evan Worthington, S, Colorado (-178)
4.115 (UDFA) - Emanuel Hall, WR, Missouri (-139)
4.119 (7.223) - Jordan Brown, CB, South Dakota State (-104)
5.151 (6.212) - Dennis Daley, OT, South Carolina (-61)
6.186 (3.99) - Mike Edwards, S, Kentucky (+87)
6.196 (7.224) - Isaac Nauta, TE, Georgia (-28)
7.228 (UDFA) - Shaq Calhoun, G, Mississippi State (-26)

TOTAL: NEGATIVE ABORTION!!!!!!

Man, **** some of these losers I drafted. **** them in the ass.

Rain Man 04-30-2019 10:25 PM

The NFL liked my Bears draft early, and didn't like it late.

3-88 - Miles Sanders, RB, Penn State - Went 2/53 (+35)
4-127 - Jace Sternberger, TE, Texas A&M - Went 3/75 (+52)
5-163 - Cole Tracy, K, LSU - Undrafted, in tryouts with Packers and Saints (-88)
7-240 - Montre Hartage, CB, Northwestern - Undrafted, signed with Dolphins (-15)

Overall -16

They also had mixed feelings about my Bengals draft. They were slightly negative on my early rounds, hated my middle rounds, and loved my late rounds.

1-11 - Cody Ford, OT, Oklahoma - Went 2/38 (-27)
2-42 - Mack Wilson, ILB, Alabama - Went 5/155 (-113)
3 – 73 - Chase Winovich, DE, Michigan - Went 3/77 (-4)
4 -111 - Bobby Evans, OT, Oklahoma - Went 3/97 (+14)
5 – 150 - Kris Boyd, CB, Texas - Went 7/217 (-67)
6 – 184 - Antoine Wesley, WR, Texas Tech - Undrafted, signed with Ravens (-71)
6 – 200 - Preston Williams, WR, Colorado State - Undrafted, signed with Dolphins (-55)
6 -212 - Dax Raymond, TE, Utah State - Undrafted, signed with Bears (-43)
6 – 213 - Easton Stick, QB, North Dakota State - Went 5/166 (+47)
6 – 215 - Bobby Okereke, LB, Stanford - Went 3/89 (+124)
7 – 225 - Matt Gay, K, Utah - Went 5/145 (+80)

Overall -115.

Time will prove me right.

kccrow 05-01-2019 12:54 AM

Pats
1-032. Johnathan Abram, S, Mississippi State 1-027 OAK (+5)
2-056. Zach Allen, ER, Boston College 3-065 ARZ (-9)
2-064. Kahale Warring, TE, San Diego State 3-086 HOU (-22)
3-074. Max Scharping, OT, Northern Illinois 2-055 HOU (+19)
3-098. Gerald Willis, DL, Miami UDFA BAL (OMFG... -158)
3-102. Miles Boykin, WR, Notre Dame 3-093 NYG (+9)
4-135. Jarrett Stidham, QB, Auburn 4-133 NE (+2)
6-207. Dontavius Russell, DL, Auburn 7-235 JAX (-28)
7-241. Karan Higdon, RB, Michigan UDFA HOU (-15)
7-248. Cole Holcomb, LB, North Carolina 5-173 (+75)
7-254. Nik Needham, CB, UTEP UDFA MIA (-2)

Total: -124
If not for my ignorance of Willis' off-field issues I'd have had a nice draft.

Cards
1-001. Kyler Murray, QB, Oklahoma 1-001 ARZ (0)
2-033. Juan Thornhill, S, Virginia 2-063 KC (-30)
3-065. Jaylon Ferguson, ER, Louisiana Tech 3-085 (-20)
4-104. Khalen Saunders, NT, Western Illinois 3-084 (+20)
5-140. David Sills, WR, West Virginia UDFA BUF (-116)
6-175. Bryce Love, RB, Stanford 4-112 WAS (+63)
6-180. Kingsley Keke, DL, Texas A&M 5-150 GB (+30)
7-250. Anthony Johnson, WR, Buffalo UDFA TB (-6)
7-251. Jordan Brailford, ER, Oklahoma State 6-253 WAS (-2)
7-256. Derwin Gray, OT, Maryland 7-219 PIT (+37)

Total: -24
Not bad considering I have absolutely no idea why on Earth Sills went undrafted. I'm still perplexed by that one.

Sfeihc 05-01-2019 06:41 AM

I would add mine up but at this point looking at everyone's scores I'd rather not embarrass all you fine folks.

DJ's left nut 05-01-2019 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 14245071)
Not bad considering I have absolutely no idea why on Earth Sills went undrafted. I'm still perplexed by that one.

Something I alluded to briefly with the Omenihu pick and even Sills specifically when I said I kept talking myself out of him (without realizing you'd already taken him).

Sometimes guys just end up the #2 or #3 pick on every team's draft board and just keep sliiiiiiding. The next round they're still there but now you're thinking you see another value play at a position you need to have and he slides again.

I had to do this draft for a few years before I really understood how these in-draft slides work. It isn't that these guys are clearly worse prospects than a dozen or more guys taken before them - it's that they just didn't have that 1 team at any point that moved them to the top of the draft board while they may have had 20 teams that were routinely staking them at #2. Just a strange phenomenon that you don't really figure out until you're actually doing a competitive(ish) draft instead of a dozen different mock draft simulators.

I'll bet most teams already do this but I'll be honest - the CP mock has convinced me that if I were a GM, I'd take my 15 most trusted scouts/personnel guys and we'd all run with 2 teams and run a draft. If I had 32 guys I trusted, all the better. And we'd do that at least once a week once the season ended.

Seeing Sills slide like that after saying "man, I spent 3 rounds talking myself out of him every time" just perfectly demonstrated that feel that I've had with the draft for a few years. In many ways it's better to be a polarizing prospect because then SOMEONE will love you and you'll get picked. Darius Slayton probably had a lower 'aggregate' rank on NFL draft boards than Sills - didn't matter. Kelvin Harmon falling behind Travis Fulgham is a similar phenomenon. I think that's how Stanley Morgan went undrafted; just nothing to wow anyone but damn he looks solid to me. I gambled on Ratliff-Williams thinking there might be one team out there that fell in love with him and took him higher than some 'aggregate' rankings would have him, but the risk is that they don't and boom - UDFA.

This is a fun exercise every year and I feel like there really are things to be learned from simply doing it, moreso than the outcomes.

RunKC 05-01-2019 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14233804)
Sweat doesn't cost $100 million.

The Clark trade was ****ing reeruned. Full stop.

Veach should be fired.

Nah. Hill is gone so his massive extension basically went to Clark.

BossChief 05-02-2019 11:52 PM

14. Atlanta - BossChief - Montez Sweat, DE, Mississippi State.....went 26th overall -12
45. Atlanta - BossChief - Rock Ya-Sin, CB, Temple.......34th overall +11
80. Atlanta – BossChief - Mike Weber, RB, Ohio State........went at 218 -138
118. Atlanta - BossChief - Terrill Hanks, LB, New Mexico State...UDFA -136
138. Atlanta - BossChief - Greg Gaines, DT, Washington...drafted at 134 +4
153. Atlanta - BossChief - Clayton Thorson, QB, Northwestern...went at 167 -14
173. Atlanta (COMP) - BossChief - William Sweet, OT, North Carolina....udfa -81
187. Atlanta – BossChief - Te’Von Coney, LB, Notre Dame...udfa -67
232. Atlanta - BossChief - Hjalte Froholdt, OG, Arkansas...drafted at 118 +114

Ouch. -319 bossreach. I liked Coney, Hanks and Weber a lot more than the NFL does, evidently.



21. Seattle - BossChief - TJ Hockenson, TE, Iowa...went at 8 +13
85. Seattle – BossChief - Ryan Finley, QB, North Carolina State...went 104 -19
125. Seattle - BossChief - Ben Banogu, EDGE, TCU....went 49 +76
160. Seattle - BossChief - Chris Slayton, DT, Syracuse....went 245 -85

-15 total

CoMoChief 05-07-2019 12:26 AM

San Francisco 49ers draft:

1(2). Josh Allen, EDGE, Kentucky (#7) - Kind of surprised he dropped this far
2(36). Amani Oruwariye, CB, Penn St. (#146) - REALLY surprised he dropped that far
3(67). Darrell Henderson, RB, Memphis (#70) - pretty much nailed this
4(105). Christian Miller, EDGE, Alabama (#115) - pretty much nailed this
6(177). Dru Samia, OG, Oklahoma (#114) - Got good value here I think.
6(214). Jamal Peters, DB, Mississippi St. (UDFA) - Meh oh well, I had 3-4 players go off my board in the last 10 picks right before I was selecting, and was caught with my pants around my ankles
7(245). Iman Marshall, CB, USC (#127) Another good value pick

I'd give this a B or B-

Nothing too special...but SF thinks they can get a couple early impact players out of this draft, maybe a couple/few others can be good role players and provide solid depth.

DJ's left nut 05-07-2019 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14245876)
Nah. Hill is gone so his massive extension basically went to Clark.

Hill might not be gone afterall now...

So it's impossible to really do this draft in hindsight because I know a little too much about who went where, but I think I can fairly say I'd have gone:

29: Byron Murphy
56: I'd have gone ahead and made this deal but I'd have gone with Adderley instead of Hardman. I liked Hardman, but man I didn't like him that much.
63: Dre'mont Jones (still love him as a rusher)
93: Miles Boykin


Now had I gambled at 61 and hoped Adderley slid to me, I'd have gone with Thornhill at 61 when he didn't and then taken DeAndre Walker with the 5th we traded away at 168.

At 203 I'd have gone WR again even having just taken Boykin because I'd have seen too much value in Kelvin Harmon.

At 214 I'd have taken Darwin Thompson; I see what the Chiefs like in him and at 216 I'd have taken Mark Fields - I'm still just dumbfounded he went undrafted. Maybe with Murphy in the fold I'd have gone with Dax Raymond as TE2 but I'm a big fan of Fields - I'd have almost certainly snapped him up there.

So my actual draft wouldn't have been a whole lot different from what KC did (especially getting Fields as a UDFA). From a strictly draft standpoint, I kinda like the Chiefs draft, even if I'd have done a few things differently. I'm still struggling with how much they gave up to get Clark though.

O.city 05-07-2019 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14256379)
Hill might not be gone afterall now...

So it's impossible to really do this draft in hindsight because I know a little too much about who went where, but I think I can fairly say I'd have gone:

29: Byron Murphy
56: I'd have gone ahead and made this deal but I'd have gone with Adderley instead of Hardman. I liked Hardman, but man I didn't like him that much.
63: Dre'mont Jones (still love him as a rusher)
93: Miles Boykin


Now had I gambled at 61 and hoped Adderley slid to me, I'd have gone with Thornhill at 61 when he didn't and then taken DeAndre Walker with the 5th we traded away at 168.

At 203 I'd have gone WR again even having just taken Boykin because I'd have seen too much value in Kelvin Harmon.

At 214 I'd have taken Darwin Thompson; I see what the Chiefs like in him and at 216 I'd have taken Mark Fields - I'm still just dumbfounded he went undrafted. Maybe with Murphy in the fold I'd have gone with Dax Raymond as TE2 but I'm a big fan of Fields - I'd have almost certainly snapped him up there.

So my actual draft wouldn't have been a whole lot different from what KC did (especially getting Fields as a UDFA). From a strictly draft standpoint, I kinda like the Chiefs draft, even if I'd have done a few things differently. I'm still struggling with how much they gave up to get Clark though.

I see you're coming around to the dark side.

Excellent.


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