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Direckshun 05-31-2020 08:54 PM

Josh Rosen
 
The Dolphins are going to deal this guy asap.

We all know Veach would rather ingest bleach than hold onto a late round pick, and we have a 7th rounder for 2021, still.

If Rosen could be had for that 7th, wouldn’t you pull the trigger?

The guy has been dealt the shittiest hand in the NFL since rookie contract Alex Smith.

He’s 23.

And while he probably never was a starting QB in this league, he could manage as a 3rd stringer in 2020 with 2nd string upside should Henne move on after this year.

Thoughts?

RealSNR 05-31-2020 09:38 PM

Isn't Rosen a bit of a headcase? Like, he's smarter than most NFL players and he kind of knows it, so he comes across as a bit of an asshole?

Usually those guys make terrible backups. Andy Reid could put Tyler Palko in a dress and get people to believe he's a legit backup, but why deal with that headache if you don't have to?

Buehler445 05-31-2020 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 14997897)
Isn't Rosen a bit of a headcase? Like, he's smarter than most NFL players and he kind of knows it, so he comes across as a bit of an asshole?

Usually those guys make terrible backups. Andy Reid could put Tyler Palko in a dress and get people to believe he's a legit backup, but why deal with that headache if you don't have to?

I'd be down if Reid is on board. Reid obviously knows locker room chemistry and he won't **** it up.

Dude can legitimately sling the rock. No idea if he has it between the ears, but if Reid is onboard so am I.

Direckshun 05-31-2020 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 14997897)
Isn't Rosen a bit of a headcase? Like, he's smarter than most NFL players and he kind of knows it, so he comes across as a bit of an asshole?

Usually those guys make terrible backups. Andy Reid could put Tyler Palko in a dress and get people to believe he's a legit backup, but why deal with that headache if you don't have to?

Well, he’s 23.

And maybe the ego goes in check once he backs up the best QB on the planet.

Rosen could be a classic case of buying low. In a year, he could be a good backup, and potentially spun into a high draft pick.

KChiefs1 05-31-2020 10:55 PM

Andy could do wonders for this kid.

DaneMcCloud 06-01-2020 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 14997972)
And maybe the ego goes in check once he backs up the best QB on the planet.

Ego? What the **** are you talking about?

Rosen went from being a sure fire first round QB from UCLA, to spending 1 season on a shitty and unorganized Cardinals team, to being traded to shitty and unorganized Miami Dolphins team.

The guy hasn't complained even once.

He's got ideal size, athleticism and arm strength. What he needs now is stability in a good organization that's hired a great QB coach and offensive coordinator.

Until that happens, he won't be able to grow as an NFL QB and unfortunately for him, he is not a fit for Chan Gailey's Pistol offense.

DaneMcCloud 06-01-2020 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 14997897)
Isn't Rosen a bit of a headcase? Like, he's smarter than most NFL players and he kind of knows it, so he comes across as a bit of an asshole?

No, he's not a headcase. There was a bunch of horseshit printed about him before the draft in an effort to make him fall. People were out to make him appear "cocky" and above everyone else when there wasn't a single player or coach that would agree with those comments.

"Journalists" questioned whether or not he "really wanted to play football" because he comes from a wealthy Jewish family in which both of his parents are doctors. What those same people fail to mention is that both of his parents were Olympic athletes and that Josh Rosen has been an excellent athlete his entire life.

The smear campaign led him to fall to #10 overall, which is a shame because had he gone to any team other than a dumpster fire, his career would most likely be different to date.

RealSNR 06-01-2020 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 14999899)

The guy hasn't complained even once.

That's an excellent point I hadn't considered. The Cardinals regretted the Steve Wilks era after one season and flushed it all down the toilet. They ruined a few lives by making those hires/signings and then never giving them a chance.

It took Jim Harbaugh for Alex to actually find success, but that's a different franchise and a different time where those players actually got opportunities to stick around even if their careers had some rough starts with the shit they're surrounded with.

For Rosen's sake, he needs to hope and pray he finds his way to a good environment where he can develop and not some god forsaken shit hole like Detroit. Thus far the only franchises who have taken those chances on him have been god forsaken shit holes.

Jesus Christ 06-01-2020 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 15000039)
That's an excellent point I hadn't considered. The Cardinals regretted the Steve Wilks era after one season and flushed it all down the toilet. They ruined a few lives by making those hires/signings and then never giving them a chance.

It took Jim Harbaugh for Alex to actually find success, but that's a different franchise and a different time where those players actually got opportunities to stick around even if their careers had some rough starts with the shit they're surrounded with.

For Rosen's sake, he needs to hope and pray he finds his way to a good environment where he can develop and not some god forsaken shit hole like Detroit. Thus far the only franchises who have taken those chances on him have been god forsaken shit holes.

Won't work, he's not Tebow.

Sassy Squatch 06-02-2020 07:41 AM

He has quite possibly the worst case of resting bitch face I've ever seen on an athlete. Poor bastard probably gets a bad rep from that.

Skyy God 06-02-2020 09:22 AM

$2M this year (counting the roster bonus) and $3M next year.

Pretty pricey for a 3rd stringer.

DrRyan 06-02-2020 10:41 AM

He's a strange guy. I ran into him at a Dr's office that I have co- treated a number of patients with over the years his rookie year. I was waiting briefly for a lunch meeting with the doctor. Here comes in sits down next to me and plants his face in his phone for a good 5-10 minutes without once looking up. Doesn't respond to either the front office girl or nurse when they asked him "morning Josh, how are you today?" in passing.

That said I'd love to see Andy turn him into a 2nd rounder a la Kolb/Feeley given the chance.

Sorry 06-20-2020 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 14999899)
Ego? What the **** are you talking about?

Rosen went from being a sure fire first round QB from UCLA, to spending 1 season on a shitty and unorganized Cardinals team, to being traded to shitty and unorganized Miami Dolphins team.

The guy hasn't complained even once.

He's got ideal size, athleticism and arm strength. What he needs now is stability in a good organization that's hired a great QB coach and offensive coordinator.

Until that happens, he won't be able to grow as an NFL QB and unfortunately for him, he is not a fit for Chan Gailey's Pistol offense.

I kinda thought he could've went to the packers to train under aaron or new england take a flier out on him. He shows great competitive fire for a QB when i saw him play in college. He'll get his shot.

Hoover 06-21-2020 06:41 AM

this kid needs Andy.

Would love to have a backup like that.

Chris Meck 06-21-2020 05:06 PM

I'd cut Henne in a heartbeat to sign that kid for the back-up spot. A couple of pre-seasons of lighting it up in Andy's offense and flip him for a first or second.

KurtCobain 06-24-2020 06:00 AM

I'd like to see him end up in Chicago.

kccrow 06-25-2020 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by KurtCobain (Post 15034864)
I'd like to see him end up in Chicago.

Would make sense for them.

You would think that the Bucs or Colts would want to take a shot on grooming him.

BryanBusby 06-26-2020 10:45 PM

Rosen has natural talent but his confidence is wrecked after playing for 3 shitty programs. He really needs a Bill Belichick, an Andy Reid or something along those lines to get some confidence. He's football shook.

Visor mother****er in Chicago ain't it.

RealSNR 06-28-2020 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 15040061)
Rosen has natural talent but his confidence is wrecked after playing for 3 shitty programs. He really needs a Bill Belichick, an Andy Reid or something along those lines to get some confidence. He's football shook.

Visor mother****er in Chicago ain't it.

Are you sure Belichick is the best coach for him if he needs confidence?

BryanBusby 06-28-2020 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 15041389)
Are you sure Belichick is the best coach for him if he needs confidence?

Belichick managed to Houdini 10 wins from Matt ****ing Cassel. I think he could manage it.

Direckshun 09-04-2020 07:57 PM

He is being released.

Claim him, stash him 3rd string. Protect Matt Moore on the Practice Squad.

Hoover 09-05-2020 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 15148865)
He is being released.

Claim him, stash him 3rd string. Protect Matt Moore on the Practice Squad.

Would love to see that.

Mecca 09-05-2020 08:21 AM

Rosen is an example of how much the league has changed, 20 years ago he was the prototype, now his lack of mobility is an issue.

Hoover 09-05-2020 12:14 PM

Any thoughts on Sidney Jones (CB) that Philly is cutting?

Direckshun 09-05-2020 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 15149714)
Any thoughts on Sidney Jones (CB) that Philly is cutting?

Mecca said in another thread that Jones is too injury prone.

I'd normally agree, but I think teams are absolutely about to rake Sneed across the coals until Breeland returns. I think we need whatever reinforcements we can get.

Of course, I posted a freakout thread last year about how bad our CB corps were and they ended up playing well and winning a Super Bowl.

For the record, the Chiefs suspected their CB depth chart wasn't good enough last year, which is why they made a push for Jalen Ramsey.

The Chiefs currently suspect their CB chart isn't good enough, which is why they kicked the tires on Logan Ryan.

Hoover 09-05-2020 07:51 PM

I don't know, dude is 24 and had a major injury during his pro day. Talk about a difficult way to enter the league. I think he's talented enough to kick the tires on. Hell with our leaders on that side of the ball and Mahomes one would think he was be pretty excited about getting a second chance here.

Chiefshrink 09-06-2020 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 14997897)
Isn't Rosen a bit of a headcase? Like, he's smarter than most NFL players and he kind of knows it, so he comes across as a bit of an asshole?

Usually those guys make terrible backups. Andy Reid could put Tyler Palko in a dress and get people to believe he's a legit backup, but why deal with that headache if you don't have to?

Nailed it !!

Not surprising George Costanza doesn't recognize this kid's extreme insecurities(a la narcissism:rolleyes:) in how he handles himself with his tone of answers and body language. I've seen many interviews of this kid and NO I do not want him on our Chiefs. There was no smear campaign against this kid. If anything he brought criticism upon himself by his aloof pretentious attitude.

Chiefshrink 09-06-2020 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 15042191)
Belichick managed to Houdini 10 wins from Matt ****ing Cassel. I think he could manage it.

Won't get that out of Newton I assure you. Newton will fold like a house of cards once Bellichek's heat starts coming down to the point where Newton will get benched. And then Newton will use the bigotry card against Bill and then Newton gets cut. BB won't put up with the 'Black Drag Queen Drama' BS nor excuses why they lost(Cam pointing fingers at others). This is my prediction for this season for CN.:p

DaneMcCloud 09-06-2020 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 15151033)
Nailed it !!

Not surprising George Costanza doesn't recognize this kid's extreme insecurities(a la narcissism:rolleyes:) in how he handles himself with his tone of answers and body language. I've seen many interviews of this kid and NO I do not want him on our Chiefs. There was no smear campaign against this kid. If anything he brought criticism upon himself by his aloof pretentious attitude.

https://i.etsystatic.com/20016590/r/...92249_pixs.jpg

DaneMcCloud 09-06-2020 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 15151037)
Won't get that out of Newton I assure you. Newton will fold like a house of cards once Bellichek's heat starts coming down to the point where Newton will get benched. And then Newton will use the bigotry card against Bill and then Newton gets cut. BB won't put up with the 'Black Drag Queen Drama' BS nor excuses why they lost(Cam pointing fingers at others). This is my prediction for this season for CN.:p

You're never ****ing right about ANYTHING.

You downvoted me for stating that the Chiefs would take a running back early in the 2020 draft on multiple occasions. You've consistently backed shitty players and your football IQ, much like your regular IQ, hovers somewhere around Zero.

You're a narcissistic, homophobic asshole who also pretends to be a psychologist but in reality, you're a phony know-nothing Quack.

You're a worthless twat of a man.

Chiefshrink 09-06-2020 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 15151292)
You're never ****ing right about ANYTHING.

You downvoted me for stating that the Chiefs would take a running back early in the 2020 draft on multiple occasions. You've consistently backed shitty players and your football IQ, much like your regular IQ, hovers somewhere around Zero.

You're a narcissistic, homophobic asshole who also pretends to be a psychologist but in reality, you're a phony know-nothing Quack.

You're a worthless twat of a man.

Triggered AGAIN I see !! :eek:

At least you have recognized yourself and owning that you are another George Costanza. That is a positive.;)

DaneMcCloud 09-06-2020 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 15151476)
Triggered AGAIN I see !! :eek:

At least you have recognized yourself and owning that you are another George Costanza. That is a positive.;)

Triggered? By you? The phoniest person on Chiefsplanet? The guy that posts Alex Jones Youtube videos on CP?

LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO

And it's pretty clear that even after nearly 20 years of posting here, you know absolutely NOTHING about me.

Keep burying your head in the sand, Grandpa. The real world is too scary for your racist, homophobic ass.

PS - I have no ****ing idea why you keep mentioning a fictional character on a 90's TV show. What the **** is that?

DaneMcCloud 09-06-2020 05:50 PM

Josh Rosen signed with the Buccaneers Practice Squad, so he'll finally have a chance to work with a real offensive-minded coach.

He won't have too many chances left if he flames out in Tampa.

Deberg_1990 08-18-2021 09:27 PM

Trash


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">QB Josh Rosen went unclaimed on waivers after being released by the 49ers on Tuesday. The 10th overall pick in the 2018 NFL draft is now a free agent.</p>&mdash; Field Yates (@FieldYates) <a href="https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1428109839809515525?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 18, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Stryker 08-19-2021 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15790455)
Trash


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">QB Josh Rosen went unclaimed on waivers after being released by the 49ers on Tuesday. The 10th overall pick in the 2018 NFL draft is now a free agent.</p>&mdash; Field Yates (@FieldYates) <a href="https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1428109839809515525?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 18, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

What i find so funny is that he had a chip on his shoulder when he got drafted at #10 - "Everyone who passed on me is going to regret it!" Really? ROFLROFLROFL

rabblerouser 08-20-2021 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 15790588)
What i find so funny is that he had a chip on his shoulder when he got drafted at #10 - "Everyone who passed on me is going to regret it!" Really? ROFLROFLROFL

No wonder Arizona moved on after one year.

Easy 6 08-21-2021 02:11 PM

I feel absolutely awful for this guy, he may or may not have been a good one... but we'll never know because his career was ****ed the day he was drafted

Rick Mirer didn't even have it this bad


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