ChiefsPlanet

ChiefsPlanet (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/index.php)
-   Saccopoo Memorial Draft Forum (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/forumdisplay.php?f=29)
-   -   The Julio Two-Step (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=338243)

Direckshun 05-10-2021 07:06 AM

The Julio Two-Step
 
So I don't know much about things, but I do know three things.

1. The Chiefs have a hole at #2 WR.
2. The Falcons are looking to trade Julio Jones.
3. The Chiefs are, clearly, not interested in losing any 2022 picks. Which, duh, because that class is going to be amazing.

That being said, we know the Chiefs can do pick swaps, as a way to handing over value but keeping the same number of bullets in the chamber.

What's the priciest pick swap you're comfortable with doing for Julio, if any?

Are you willing to fork over a 2nd for a 4th + Julio?

A 3rd for a 5th + Julio?

Are you willing to fork over a 2nd for a 3rd, a 4th + Julio?

How creative are you willing to get.

O.city 05-10-2021 07:12 AM

If he didn't have the money he has, sure.

Otherwise, no.

Hoover 05-10-2021 07:43 AM

I'd swap our third for their fifth if I'm taking on the contract for a player of his age and the fact that he struggles to stay on the field.

IowaHawkeyeChief 05-10-2021 07:46 AM

No, unless they pick up part of his salary in the deal and that isn't going to happen as they are in Cap hell... If we pick up Julio's contract it will prohibit us from getting a FA Edge rusher and/or resigning Breeland, both bigger needs than WR.

Dante84 05-10-2021 09:12 AM

I think it's less about draft capital / trade compensation as much as it is about his contract. I went round and round in the lounge thread pushing for Julio, but the more I thought through the logistics of his contract, it seemed very out of character for us.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 15645852)
Not arguing, genuinely curious - wouldn't Mathieu's extension create more than enough room, factoring in our current space + new space - draft class?

EDIT: I did the math.

Looks like the extension could create $10M in cap space for 2021, + the current cap space of $9,894,349, - Rookie pool requirement of $5,705,097 = $14,189,252

So no, just HB's extension alone would not get it done. There would have to be other adjustments made elsewhere prior to it becoming official on 6/2/2021. Kelce and Jones restructures would be candidates.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 15646883)
Yep, fair enough - I've evolved, and now that's where I land, with one major caveat: If Veach is game, I'm game.

That said, historically, Veach's bread and butter move is all about value. Guys who are talented, but down and out and therefore inexpensive. 1st round cast-aways. Ragland, Baker, Callaway etc...

His other move is to secure talent when its available on the open market at a discount because of our ability to compete for rings. McCoy, Bell, etc...

Occasionally, he will make splash moves like Matheiu, Clark, Watkins, Hitchens, and now OBJ - those players were for the most part entering their early prime or mid prime. The only departure from that would have been Trent Williams, given his age. Thankfully, it didn't pan out.

Injuries, Age, and Elite Talent considerations aside, given JJ's price tag, I think it's a non-starter for Veach.

It is fun to dream, though.


htismaqe 05-10-2021 11:03 AM

They're not taking on $15M for a guy with his injury history. It's just a dumb idea at this point.

Bowser 05-10-2021 12:00 PM

Am I crazy for rather wanting to see what Cornell Powell can do at that position than to take on Julio and his contract?

htismaqe 05-10-2021 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 15668070)
Am I crazy for rather wanting to see what Cornell Powell can do at that position than to take on Julio and his contract?

Nope, not at all.

Skyy God 05-15-2021 11:28 AM

Julio + a bag of dicks for you mom and a 1st.

This is a stupid exercise. Bert isn’t trading for an aging, highly paid WR.

Halfcan 05-15-2021 12:58 PM

Mahomes to Julio would be majestic!

Do it Veach!!

htismaqe 05-17-2021 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 15675119)
Mahomes to Julio would be majestic!

Do it Veach!!

They're not going to pay $15M guaranteed for an aging player with mounting injury problems.

Bowser 05-17-2021 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15677002)
They're not going to pay $15M guaranteed for an aging player with mounting injury problems.

You know who might? Gruden.

It just FEELS like a Gruden move.

Dayze 05-17-2021 06:24 PM

ship out Hardman and a pick + conditional picks for Julio.


...granted....that's the easy version / no factoring in $$.

htismaqe 05-17-2021 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 15677257)
ship out Hardman and a pick + conditional picks for Julio.


...granted....that's the easy version / no factoring in $$.

WTF? No way.

Stryker 05-17-2021 09:48 PM

My vote is **** no!


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:25 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.