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TLO 08-22-2019 04:35 PM

What is the Chiefs weakest position group heading into the regular season?
 
I'll create a poll and we can discuss down below.

In58men 08-22-2019 04:36 PM

OL

BlackHelicopters 08-22-2019 04:36 PM

Throw a dart.

TLO 08-22-2019 04:40 PM

I'm going to go with CB, though LB is probably a close second.

Breeland seems nice, and Ward looks OK. Fuller is fine as the nickel. There looks to be absolutely no serviceable depth at the CB position. Maybe MC comes in and makes an impact after his suspension, but I'm not confident.

Chief Roundup 08-22-2019 04:40 PM

Toss up between CB and TE.

ModSocks 08-22-2019 04:40 PM

LB probably has the most unknowns.

Best22 08-22-2019 04:40 PM

LB

I think atleast Breeland will be good at CB

ModSocks 08-22-2019 04:40 PM

TE is a position, as a group, that woefully lacks depth.

Sassy Squatch 08-22-2019 04:41 PM

Interior OL

TLO 08-22-2019 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 14405232)
Toss up between CB and TE.

I think the TE thing is way overblown. Bell or Yelder can give you the production that Harris has over the past few years. (Really any TE in football can do that) As long as Kelce stays healthy, I don't see it as an issue.

If Kelce goes down we're just as ****ed as we were with Harris on the team.

TLO 08-22-2019 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 14405233)
LB probably has the most unknowns.

I agree with this as well. I've been encouraged by the overall speed of the LB group though, (minus Ragland).

BleedingRed 08-22-2019 04:47 PM

LB easy

RealSNR 08-22-2019 04:53 PM

CB will get the most blame, but our LBs are going to hurt us all year more than our CBs will. If we stay healthy, our starting CBs are good enough to get the job done. Even if our starting LBs stay healthy, we're gonna be gouged a lot by teams.

I shouldn't have been expecting miracles from Darron Lee, but I honestly thought we were getting a better player than this. I watched him cover against the Bengals, and while he had decent coverage on a lot of plays, he seemed to allow a completion every single time he was targeted.

New World Order 08-22-2019 04:54 PM

lb then cb

kcclone 08-22-2019 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 14405232)
Toss up between CB and TE.


Ha ok. TE may not be deep, but we have the best starting group in the league.

Easy 6 08-22-2019 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 14405235)
TE is a position, as a group, that woefully lacks depth.

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TEX 08-22-2019 05:05 PM

LB

Mama Hip Rockets 08-22-2019 05:25 PM

Why would anyone vote for RB or TE, LOL. GTFOH.

P.S. Sorry for all the acronyms.

BWillie 08-22-2019 05:31 PM

Linebacker - but it's close. Definitely not RB. RB does not matter.

The Chiefs could literally make me their running back, and they would only lose like 2 more games.

Bump 08-22-2019 05:33 PM

I think LB is the weakest. It could end up being a competent unit with all of the changes to the D, but we'll see.

Hammock Parties 08-22-2019 05:35 PM

beat writer

Chief Roundup 08-22-2019 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 14405237)
I think the TE thing is way overblown. Bell or Yelder can give you the production that Harris has over the past few years. (Really any TE in football can do that) As long as Kelce stays healthy, I don't see it as an issue.

If Kelce goes down we're just as ****ed as we were with Harris on the team.

I haven't heard any real update on Yelder but right now we have Kelce and Bell, that is it.

lewdog 08-22-2019 05:54 PM

Knives.

And chicken sandwiches.

Chief Roundup 08-22-2019 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcclone (Post 14405250)
Ha ok. TE may not be deep, but we have the best starting group in the league.

Group ROFL We have Kelce and damn near A, singular, dude off the street.

Jewish Rabbi 08-22-2019 05:57 PM

QB

BossChief 08-22-2019 05:59 PM

Most of our CBS are UDFAs with little or no experience.

TLO 08-22-2019 06:16 PM

Dolphins looking to go 0-16?

Ooops wrong thread

Why Not? 08-22-2019 06:19 PM

Can’t be TE, guys. When you have the best player in the league at a position, no way that position group can be the weak spot on a team. Kelce brings the average of everyone else(Bell, Yelder, Lovett, Ned McGee or whoever)up so high it makes up for the lack of depth. It’s LB and I’m not sure it’s close.

Buckweath 08-22-2019 06:20 PM

People saying TE are clueless. I guess they are the same which were clamoring for Kyle Rudolph which never made any sense.

I expect the LBs to be below-average but behind what projects to be a top dline I don't think it will hurt the defense that much. There is a chance too that the group is decent.

The CBs IMO could be decent but could also ruin this team. After Fuller, it is all unknown and injury concerns.

If Veach was to add a good CB, I'd be banging the table that's almost a guaranteed presence at the SB.

All in all, CBs are by far the biggest concern IMO.

keg in kc 08-22-2019 06:23 PM

Cheerleaders.

Buckweath 08-22-2019 06:23 PM

For anyone saying TE, please name which TE groups in the league you would take over the Chiefs.

I'll help you start...Eagles.

Coochie liquor 08-22-2019 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 14405338)
Dolphins looking to go 0-16?

Ooops wrong thread

Gotta get Tua somehow.

Chief Roundup 08-22-2019 09:12 PM

If we lose Kelce we are ****ed. If we lose Breeland it is not nearly as bad. If we lose Hitchens it is not nearly as bad.
The OP question was about the Position GROUP.


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Jerok 08-22-2019 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 14405557)
If we lose Kelce we are ****ed. If we lose Breeland it is not nearly as bad. If we lose Hitchens it is not nearly as bad.
The OP question was about the Position GROUP.


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That's stupid. It's like saying QB is one of the weakest position group because our backups suck when you have the MVP of the league as QB.

Chief Roundup 08-22-2019 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerok (Post 14405559)
That's stupid. It's like saying QB is one of the weakest position group because our backups suck when you have the MVP of the league as QB.

No because an injury to any franchise QB is on a different level than any other position group. That is not comparing apples to apples.

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Pitt Gorilla 08-22-2019 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerok (Post 14405559)
That's stupid. It's like saying QB is one of the weakest position group because our backups suck when you have the MVP of the league as QB.

Of course, they’re not the same at all. You see the Chiefs run a lot of 2 or 3 QB sets?

Buckweath 08-22-2019 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 14405557)
If we lose Kelce we are ****ed. If we lose Breeland it is not nearly as bad. If we lose Hitchens it is not nearly as bad.
The OP question was about the Position GROUP.


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Can you name which TE groups you would take over the Chiefs'?

Chief Roundup 08-22-2019 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 14405569)
Can you name which TE groups you would take over the Chiefs'?

Jesus that is a non starter. Another teams anything is not the point of the thread. Try to stay on point.

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Pitt Gorilla 08-22-2019 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 14405569)
Can you name which TE groups you would take over the Chiefs'?

I don’t think that was the question.

Buckweath 08-22-2019 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 14405572)
Jesus that is a non starter. Another teams anything is not the point of the thread. Try to stay on point.

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I can maybe name 20 LBs groups I like better than the Chiefs.

I can maybe name 20 CB groups I like better than the Chiefs.

I couldn't name 5 TE groups I like better than the Chiefs.

Can you figure out the difference?

Question is not what's the weakest group behind the starting best player.

The Chiefs are good at TE. They are not at LB and especially at CB.

Chief Roundup 08-22-2019 09:34 PM

Nice to see you still dont properly understand the OP. It is not about other teams and their players. This is about the Chiefs ONLY.


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New World Order 08-22-2019 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 14405566)
Of course, they’re not the same at all. You see the Chiefs run a lot of 2 or 3 QB sets?

Do they run a lot of 2 te sets?

Naptown Chief 08-22-2019 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14405299)
beat writer

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 14405353)
Cheerleaders.

These are the correct answers.

Pitt Gorilla 08-22-2019 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 14405584)
Do they run a lot of 2 te sets?

The Chiefs seem to. Hell, against the Gals a couple weeks ago, 6 of their first 11 plays were in double TE.

Why Not? 08-22-2019 10:07 PM

It’s not about making it about other teams. It’s a reference point. Let’s say Veach was gifted a magic wish to swap out one of his position groups with anyone else’s in the league. Which do you think he would swap? If you say TE, your ****ing high(I mean that respectfully).

New World Order 08-22-2019 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 14405605)
The Chiefs seem to. Hell, against the Gals a couple weeks ago, 6 of their first 11 plays were in double TE.

TE #2 production is pretty limited.

Think people are blowing the 'TE is the weakest group' out of proportion considering there are usually 2 TEs max on the field at a time and one of those on our team is the best in the NFL.

Pitt Gorilla 08-22-2019 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 14405613)
TE #2 production is pretty limited.

Think people are blowing the 'TE is the weakest group' out of proportion considering there are 2 TEs max on the field at a time and one of those on our team is the best in the NFL.

I'm not voting TE, BTW.

kcclone 08-22-2019 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 14405316)
Group ROFL We have Kelce and damn near A, singular, dude off the street.

Yep, Kelce is the starting group dumbass.

It’s a single position and we have the best one in the league getting 85% of the snaps at that position.

Which teams would you trade our TE group (including Kelce) for?

I can think of a lot of teams I’d trade our CB’s, LB’s or even OL for theirs. But I’m not sure I’d trade our TE group for simply because the guy getting almost ALL the reps is the best in the NFL.

kcclone 08-22-2019 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 14405605)
The Chiefs seem to. Hell, against the Gals a couple weeks ago, 6 of their first 11 plays were in double TE.

Yeah in the pre-season, especially when they’re trying to figure out who is the TE2. In the regular season 80-85% of TE snaps will he filled by an all pro.

FAX 08-22-2019 10:39 PM

It seems somewhat strange to me that people don't think of Sherman when discussing the tight end position. He's performed in that role many times and, although he's listed as a fullback, he did a damn fine job. He's a relentless blocker and has very good (maybe even great) hands. He simply lacks prototypical TE length.

FAX

Chief Roundup 08-24-2019 05:33 PM

Interesting how the people that cover the Chiefs that are on 101 the Fox mention that the TE position group is weak.

scho63 08-24-2019 05:51 PM

Doggie Style then Missionary

dlphg9 08-24-2019 08:02 PM

Dammit. I picked CB, but I meant LB. I think the horrible safety play last year made the CBs look even worse than they really were. It seems like no one is taking that into account.

Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan 08-24-2019 08:14 PM

O'Daniel is not helping his cause about making the team.

JakeF 08-24-2019 08:33 PM

Our secondary is still really weak. We just can't cover anyone. We will have to do a great job of pressuring the QB this year or the other teams are going to hold onto the ball for a long,long time.

Time of possession to keep Mahomes off the field is going to be the tactic.

scho63 08-25-2019 08:18 AM

Secondary looked out of sorts last night, especially the backups. Too many guys released a receiver only to find no coverage over the top. Looked like every tackle was Thornhill getting there 3-4 steps late after a big gain.

Hopefully just communication issues and not a total lack of talent.

Rasputin 08-25-2019 08:21 AM

Punter. Former MVP had his worst output in his career hardly punting all season. Love me some Dustin Colquitt punts for the win.


I mean how else did Alex Smith get all those hidden yards?

mszymko 08-25-2019 01:54 PM

Do we have any interest in kilo Alanso?

Chiefshrink 08-25-2019 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 14408099)
Time of possession to keep Mahomes off the field is going to be the tactic.

You are spot on !! Nickel and dime down the field.

Chiefshrink 08-25-2019 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mszymko (Post 14408914)
Do we have any interest in kilo Alanso?

I saw an interview of his and what a total surfer dude. Total Spicoley:rolleyes:

mszymko 08-25-2019 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 14409012)
I saw an interview of his and what a total surfer dude. Total Spicoley:rolleyes:

Perfect, he’ll love KC!

Munson 08-25-2019 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan (Post 14408022)
O'Daniel is not helping his cause about making the team.

He hasn't done shit all preseason, and probably won't make it.


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