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BossChief 04-26-2022 06:46 PM

2022 Draft Busts
 
Who do you think is going to be a bust? Guys constantly projected to be first rounders but you think won’t make it as a difference maker in the NFL.

I’ll go first and I have 2.

Kyle Hamilton
Drake London

I think both guys face huge speed struggles in the NFL that end up being a fatal flaw.

Sassy Squatch 04-26-2022 06:47 PM

Shingle McKringleberry

La0laEsMia 04-26-2022 07:35 PM

I don't know about bust, but not live up to their draft stock/potential:

Travon Walker
Jermaine Johnson
Chris Olave
Drake London
David Ojabo
Treylon Burks
Boye Mafe

GloucesterChief 04-26-2022 08:41 PM

Any QB taken in the first round.

xztop123 04-26-2022 08:43 PM

I predict jameson Williams will always be injured

Treylon burks - bust.

In58men 04-26-2022 09:11 PM

Drake London & Aidan Hutchinson

Kiimo 04-26-2022 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16263585)
Who do you think is going to be a bust? Guys constantly projected to be first rounders but you think won’t make it as a difference maker in the NFL.

I’ll go first and I have 2.

Kyle Hamilton


Drake London

I think both guys face huge speed struggles in the NFL that end up being a fatal flaw.


Drake London yes


Kyle Hamilton no

Kellerfox 04-26-2022 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 16263884)
Drake London yes


Kyle Hamilton no

I’m with you, I think Hamilton is one of the safest picks this year. I think the bust factor with him is very low (barring injury / arrest). Closest thing to a can’t miss this year IMO.

Kellerfox 04-26-2022 10:24 PM

My list:

Charles Cross, OT
Trevor Penning, OT
Matt Corral, QB
Malik Willis, QB

BryanBusby 04-26-2022 10:33 PM

Evan Neal Gonna look bad being that fat at Tackle in the NFL

Derek Stingley He's going to have a hard time when it's like playing Alabama every single week.

Bump 04-26-2022 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 16263808)
Drake London & Aidan Hutchinson

ya I think those two won't live up to their hype.

Drake London just looks like he needs to hit the weights and Hutchinson I just don't see elite NFL player when I watch him.

BossChief 04-26-2022 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Kellerfox (Post 16263892)
I’m with you, I think Hamilton is one of the safest picks this year. I think the bust factor with him is very low (barring injury / arrest). Closest thing to a can’t miss this year IMO.

And most people that write about him say similar things about him. I get it. The kid is very well prepared, is a great tackler, is physical, has plus size, good instincts, great eyes and anticipation of routes and throws.

I just don’t know how much of that is going to translate to the nfl game as well as it did in college when the level of competition is higher than what he faced at ND. I can’t get away from the combination of his lacking speed at the NFL level and his size not being able to get flipped and run with the guys that commonly run 4.4 times and sometimes sub 4.3. Any NFL speed WR that gets a step on him is gone. Opposing OCs will find ways to exploit that. Especially the ones with elite speed on their rosters at wideout.

I see a guy that will be an elite box safety in the NFL. Just being honest. I’m not convinced he can be as effective in deep coverage and think he may have to have his speed deficiencies hidden by the scheme.

It’s a similar outlook I see for London. At the top of his ability and if all his skills translate to the NFL game flawlessly, he’s probably Ed Mccaffery…but at the low end, he’s Mike Williams or Michael Crabtree.

bigjosh 04-26-2022 11:03 PM

Garrett Wilson - i think he has the talent, but will have low production partially due to ending up on a shit team.

Jameson Williams - seems to be the type to have an injury bug for entire career.

Devonte Wyatt - overhyped, freak athlete that doesn’t show up on tape. Should look better surrounded by the all pro defense Georgia put together.

Any first round QB - this class rivals the good ol geno smith draft.

Trent Mcduffie - just a hunch honestly.


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KChiefs1 04-27-2022 12:06 AM

Jameson Williams


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xztop123 04-27-2022 01:31 AM

Every time jameson Williams gets tackled his head slams off the ground. He’s just too small.

CupidStunt 04-27-2022 04:32 AM

Hamilton. The Aaron Curry of S. Super overrated. Not fast or smooth enough for today's NFL.

Sauce. I don't actually think he'll bust, but I was looking at all the top 10 drafter corners recently and the bust rate is really high, so I'll just throw the name out there for some different flavor. I do hesitate when a prospect is supposedly so clean and perfect.

London. Through all the coverage I've consumed I see the positives in every WR at this point, but this guy would be a total anomaly to every single top WR in the league right now. And no, he's not Mike Evans. Evans would dust him in a race.

Pickett. This will be relative to where he goes, but safe at QB is an insta-bust. I'm sure he'll probably get praised early in his career, ala Mac Jones, for being a bus driver and not making the mistakes like other young QBs, but he'll never sniff being a franchise guy.

There's damn sure gonna be a couple edge who bust hard as well, but I have no idea which.

MahomesMagic 04-27-2022 06:58 AM

I think the hype on Jameson Williams will disappoint the fans of whoever drafts him.

Christian Watson will also frustrate people.

wachashi 04-27-2022 07:54 AM

Smart money is on any QB taken in the first round, but that's cheating.

Wide receivers have historically been difficult to hit on in the first round, and with several likely going in this draft, there's definitely bust potential there.

I'll go with Burks as the most likely to bust. Good ball tracking ability, good size, good top-end speed, but not an explosive athlete and will need to refine his route running.

kccrow 04-27-2022 08:08 AM

Drake London - He's not fast and he's not physical so I'm not sure if that projects well.

Evan Neal - Knee and hip issues in his medicals and saw him get away with holds against speed more than I like

Derek Stingley - I don't think he has the mental makeup to survive mistakes in the NFL.

Kenny Pickett - May not be a complete bust but I think he tops out as Andy Dalton, which isn't getting you far.

ModSocks 04-27-2022 09:49 AM

Let me see who goes where first and i'll tell you who's gonna bust.

ModSocks 04-27-2022 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 16264061)
I think the hype on Jameson Williams will disappoint the fans of whoever drafts him.

Christian Watson will also frustrate people.

Depends on where they go.

If the Jets take Williams? He'll underwhelm. If the Chiefs take Williams he'll be a star.

Even your boy Drake London....if he goes to NYJ he'll certainly be a bust.

If he goes to say, GB, he'll be a star. There isn't a better QB in the league for Drake London's skillset than Aaron Rodgers.

MahomesMagic 04-27-2022 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16264348)
Depends on where they go.

If the Jets take Williams? He'll underwhelm. If the Chiefs take Williams he'll be a star.

Even your boy Drake London....if he goes to NYJ he'll certainly be a bust.

If he goes to say, GB, he'll be a star. There isn't a better QB in the league for Drake London's skillset than Aaron Rodgers.

That's a great spot for him. I thought Zach Wilson was better than Trevor last year.

London becomes the focal 1 and will eat up targets.

ModSocks 04-27-2022 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 16264464)
That's a great spot for him. I thought Zach Wilson was better than Trevor last year.

London becomes the focal 1 and will eat up targets.

That's a terrible spot for him. GB is the perfect landing spot for him.

I'm a believer in Zach Wilson too, and he was also my favorite QB from last year's draft.

But the Jets are a historically dysfunctional team with a defensive HC and a 2nd year QB who will surely be aiming to lower his turnovers as he develops his NFL game.

If you wanna see Drake London succeed you gotta stick him with an Aaron Rodgers type QB who can deliver pinpoint accurate back shoulder throws, who has enough pedigree in the league to not be afraid of tossing 50/50 balls and worry about job security, and who can "throw a WR open".

I love Zach Wilson's talent too, but he ain't there yet.

TLO 04-27-2022 11:12 AM

Anyone drafted by the Broncos, Raiders, or Chargers will bust.

MahomesMagic 04-27-2022 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16264522)
That's a terrible spot for him. GB is the perfect landing spot for him.

I'm a believer in Zach Wilson too, and he was also my favorite QB from last year's draft.

But the Jets are a historically dysfunctional team with a defensive HC and a 2nd year QB who will surely be aiming to lower his turnovers as he develops his NFL game.

If you wanna see Drake London succeed you gotta stick him with an Aaron Rodgers type QB who can deliver pinpoint accurate back shoulder throws, who has enough pedigree in the league to not be afraid of tossing 50/50 balls and worry about job security, and who can "throw a WR open".

I love Zach Wilson's talent too, but he ain't there yet.

This is the way the current NFL works. They spent a top 5 pick on the kid, he's going to play.

Of course Rodgers would be awesome but Zach also has very good ball placement accuracy.

BossChief 04-27-2022 12:41 PM

Today Daniel Jerimiah indicated Kyle Hamilton could fall into the 20s because of speed concerns.

kccrow 04-27-2022 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16264769)
Today Daniel Jerimiah indicated Kyle Hamilton could fall into the 20s because of speed concerns.

Man, I just don't know about that.

4.59 isn't that bad for a guy that's 6'4" 220.

At worst he makes an Isaiah Simmons move to LB and he can cover TEs all the way down the field.

If I'm Washington, and he falls to 11, I'm making that pick.

The Franchise 04-27-2022 12:49 PM

Hamilton is not falling into the 20s. Jesus Christ.

Kiimo 04-27-2022 12:55 PM

Hamilton had a knee injury and also plays tons faster than he drills. He has the Bolton knack for being a smart player who arrives where he's supposed to be before anyone else. He also has pass rushing upside.

He's not a bust in my opinion if anything he's a dream if he falls far enough.

I don't think we should trade up for him though, not when a guy like Jaquan Brisker will be there at 30.



Also

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Originally Posted by Kellerfox (Post 16263896)
My list:

Charles Cross, OT
Trevor Penning, OT
Matt Corral, QB
Malik Willis, QB


Charles Cross should be the #1 pick in the draft. He's the best pass blocking tackle in the country as a sophomore.

BossChief 04-27-2022 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16264786)
Hamilton is not falling into the 20s. Jesus Christ.

I don’t think so, either.

Couch-Potato 04-27-2022 10:03 PM

Came here to say Drake London also. When you watch his highlight real he's never open. Sure, he makes a lot of contested catches but will that translate with pro-DBs guarding him?

Also, I'm not hyped for George Karlaftis who doesn't seem to have the bend or speed to be an exciting addition to the pass rush but maybe he proves me wrong.

MahomesMagic 04-28-2022 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16265718)
Came here to say Drake London also. When you watch his highlight real he's never open. Sure, he makes a lot of contested catches but will that translate with pro-DBs guarding him?

Also, I'm not hyped for George Karlaftis who doesn't seem to have the bend or speed to be an exciting addition to the pass rush but maybe he proves me wrong.


LMAO

bigjosh 04-28-2022 08:17 AM

I dont get the Drake London hate.

Sure, he isnt going to burn the secondary on deep shots as well as hill, but the dude is a yac monster. He is open more than he gets credit for and alot of his “contested catches” are more because of shit qb play than his actual degree of being open.

He beats the **** out of zone coverage and can overpower man coverage.

If he ends up with some shit ass team like the falcons he may struggle, but if he ends up in kc he will be a perennial pro bowler.

MahomesMagic 04-28-2022 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 16266021)
I dont get the Drake London hate.

Sure, he isnt going to burn the secondary on deep shots as well as hill, but the dude is a yac monster. He is open more than he gets credit for and alot of his “contested catches” are more because of shit qb play than his actual degree of being open.

He beats the **** out of zone coverage and can overpower man coverage.

If he ends up with some shit ass team like the falcons he may struggle, but if he ends up in kc he will be a perennial pro bowler.

I guess Justin Jefferson isn't open either.

Oh well, seems to work out.

kccrow 04-28-2022 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 16266021)
I dont get the Drake London hate.

Sure, he isnt going to burn the secondary on deep shots as well as hill, but the dude is a yac monster. He is open more than he gets credit for and alot of his “contested catches” are more because of shit qb play than his actual degree of being open.

He beats the **** out of zone coverage and can overpower man coverage.

If he ends up with some shit ass team like the falcons he may struggle, but if he ends up in kc he will be a perennial pro bowler.

He has YAC because he operates primarily from the slot and gets targeted on short throws. He doesn't operate outside, beat guys for a nice depth of target, then pile on YAC.

MahomesMagic 04-28-2022 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 16266021)
I dont get the Drake London hate.

Sure, he isnt going to burn the secondary on deep shots as well as hill, but the dude is a yac monster. He is open more than he gets credit for and alot of his “contested catches” are more because of shit qb play than his actual degree of being open.

He beats the **** out of zone coverage and can overpower man coverage.

If he ends up with some shit ass team like the falcons he may struggle, but if he ends up in kc he will be a perennial pro bowler.

Analytics bros.

They also told us last year how amazing JAGami Brown would be.

Couch-Potato 04-28-2022 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 16266004)
LMAO

What I mean is he doesn't seem to have a lot of separation to his game. He's more of a 50:50 guy IMO.

louie aguiar 04-28-2022 02:13 PM

My two guesses: Devonta Wyatt, Drake Jackson

Watch them become perennial pro-bowlers now...

MahomesMagic 04-28-2022 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16266914)
What I mean is he doesn't seem to have a lot of separation to his game. He's more of a 50:50 guy IMO.

No, he's not Hollywood who will cut, accelerate and be college open.

But lots of people don't like him either here.

bigjosh 04-28-2022 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 16266889)
Analytics bros.

They also told us last year how amazing JAGami Brown would be.


Im going strictly off of an eye test. The kid can ball. He sons basically any db they put on him.


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MahomesMagic 04-28-2022 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 16267069)
Im going strictly off of an eye test. The kid can ball. He sons basically any db they put on him.


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Yeah, its unfair.

kccrow 04-28-2022 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 16266889)
Analytics bros.

They also told us last year how amazing JAGami Brown would be.

Yeah, I whiffed on that mofo hard, so far at least.

Chris Meck 04-28-2022 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16267360)
Yeah, I whiffed on that mofo hard, so far at least.

We're ALL going to whiff.

hell, GM's with a division of scouts are going to whiff.

More than half of these 'sure fire first rounders' are going to bust.

it's still fun. :)

MahomesMagic 04-28-2022 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16267360)
Yeah, I whiffed on that mofo hard, so far at least.

If you just had him as a guy in the 2nd, OK.

Chris Simms put him ahead of Waddle.

That's bad.

DJ's left nut 04-28-2022 07:04 PM

There’s your first.

Falcons have visions of Julio Jones.

They got Mikhael Ricks.

DJ's left nut 04-28-2022 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16266872)
He has YAC because he operates primarily from the slot and gets targeted on short throws. He doesn't operate outside, beat guys for a nice depth of target, then pile on YAC.

Best case scenario for him is Victor Cruz.

Which is good enough, but he went awfully early for ‘big slot’ to be his ceiling. Especially when he and Pitts are going to occupy the same space frequently.

kcbubb 04-28-2022 11:49 PM

Drake London could have a hard bc his situation is tough. But in the long run he’s probably ok. Jahan Dotson is my pick for a bust. He’s going into a rough situation with wentz and he probably won’t get many targets. Plus he’s small and his short area quickness is meh. He’s got good hands but he’s likely covered up with nfl corners and is wentz gonna be able to make those tight window throws? I don’t think so. Dotson is a bust.

BossChief 04-29-2022 01:35 AM

I’d like to retract my call for Hamilton to bust. Falling to Baltimore is huge for him.

emaw1979 04-29-2022 06:13 AM

Karlaftis and McDuffie

Both over drafted.

Karlaftis ceiling is Eric Hicks and McDuffie is ‘mighty mouse’ Mark McMillian

Chris Meck 04-29-2022 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emaw1979 (Post 16270490)
Karlaftis and McDuffie

Both over drafted.

Karlaftis ceiling is Eric Hicks and McDuffie is ‘mighty mouse’ Mark McMillian

If you, DTVietnam, TEX, and Comochiefs hate the picks, it's an excellent bet they'll be All-Pros.

DJ's left nut 04-29-2022 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16270535)
If you, DTVietnam, TEX, and Comochiefs hate the picks, it's an excellent bet they'll be All-Pros.

Yup.

At a point it's wise to consider your allies when taking a position.

If THAT'S the group you find yourself in, you really want to reconsider your stance.


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