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MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04-06-2020 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefBlueCFC (Post 14890527)
As it has already been pointed out, but Mitchell Schwartz is grossly underrated. Also, Pete Carroll over Andy Reid or John Harbaugh? Don't get me wrong, Pete is a damn good coach, but Andy has done more with a lot less. Look at those offenses he had from 2013 - 2015 and the defenses he had in 2017 - 2018...

Yea but he didn’t win the big games in the 2010s. He will definitely be in the 2020s tho. He already started the 20s off with a super bowl win

smithandrew051 04-06-2020 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14890525)
Kam Chancellor should’ve made it over Berry

I don’t know about that.

Berry was first team all pro three times. Chancellor only made second team twice.

If I’m building a team, yeah I might take Chancellor. Based on pure accolades in the decade, I probably choose Berry.

Hoover 04-06-2020 02:39 PM

Those running backs suck

Perineum Ripper 04-06-2020 02:42 PM

I think I would take Reid over Carrol for coaches, but I might be a homer.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04-06-2020 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mac459 (Post 14890555)
I think I would take Reid over Carrol for coaches, but I might be a homer.

Pete won more Super Bowls than Reid

DJ's left nut 04-06-2020 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mac459 (Post 14890555)
I think I would take Reid over Carrol for coaches, but I might be a homer.

Strictly off the resumes, Carrol gets the nod.


Pete is 100-60 in the regular season to Reid's 99-61; virtually a wash so you go to playoff performance. Carrol is 10-7 w/ 2 conference championships and a SB in 8 playoff seasons while Reid is 5-6 w/ 1 conference championship and a SB in 7 playoff appearances.

The Seahawks were in slightly better shape than the Chiefs when Carrol got there, but they weren't a safe bet by any means.

I think Reid's a safer bet going forward and the guy I'd rather have right this very minute, but a rearview mirror analysis of the last decade says that Carrol has a slightly stronger case. Reid comes in a safe 3rd, IMO, especially with Sean Payton's SB coming in the 2009 season (and his suspension being in this one). Harbaugh maybe in the running but apart from that 2012 run he's really done very little. The Ravens haven't won a playoff game since 2014 so that's gotta hold him back.

There really isn't much of a conversation after 3rd, IMO.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04-06-2020 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14890581)
Strictly off the resumes, Carrol gets the nod.


Pete is 100-60 in the regular season to Reid's 99-61; virtually a wash so you go to playoff performance. Carrol is 10-7 w/ 2 conference championships and a SB in 8 playoff seasons while Reid is 5-6 w/ 1 conference championship and a SB in 7 playoff appearances.

The Seahawks were in slightly better shape than the Chiefs when Carrol got there, but they weren't a safe bet by any means.

I think Reid's a safer bet going forward and the guy I'd rather have right this very minute, but a rearview mirror analysis of the last decade says that Carrol has a slightly stronger case. Reid comes in a safe 3rd, IMO, especially with Sean Payton's SB coming in the 2009 season (and his suspension being in this one). Harbaugh maybe in the running but apart from that 2012 run he's really done very little. The Ravens haven't won a playoff game since 2014 so that's gotta hold him back.

There really isn't much of a conversation after 3rd, IMO.

Reid never won a super bowl in the 2010s

DJ's left nut 04-06-2020 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14890570)
Pete won more Super Bowls than Reid

{sigh}

Ubeja Vontell 04-06-2020 02:59 PM

When the AFL merged with the NFL that was it. When the All Time AFL team was announced the Chiefs Fred Arbansas was the TE. If we never played another football season Chiefs TE Tony Gonzalez would be the All Time TE.

Point...Chiefs have had some TE's

BWillie 04-06-2020 03:00 PM

Berry? Like Eric Berry?

WhawhaWhat 04-06-2020 03:01 PM

Everyone forgetting about Chiefs legend Darrelle Revis.

ThaVirus 04-06-2020 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14890508)
i gotta be honest, berry belongs nowhere near this list

he had 3 very good seasons, and one pretty good season....and the rest was not much to write home about

Probably says more about the state of safety play in the NFL this decade than anything. We've fallen far from the Reed/Polamalu/ Dawkins days. Who would seriously be in consideration? Earl Thomas, Kam Chancellor, Eric Berry, Harrison Smith, Weddle. Maybe McCourty.

ThaVirus 04-06-2020 03:26 PM

I'm actually kind of shocked that Kelce wasn't a unanimous vote.

I get that Gronk is going to be the #1 choice for 100 out of 100 voters, but Kelce's only competition was Greg Olsen who peaked just a hair earlier (and came into the league waaayyy earlier). Kelce's peak was higher, it lasted longer, he's more explosive, Super Bowl champion, etc. Olsen only had four seasons with over 1,000 yards this decade and he played in every season. Kelce only played from 2014 and onward.

The only thing I can say about Olsen over Kelce is that Kelce fumbles a lot more, but I'd say it's a fair trade-off for the extra yards, TDs and consistency.

luv 04-06-2020 03:42 PM

McCoy over Charles?

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04-06-2020 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 14890691)
McCoy over Charles?

Yea look at McCoys stats. They are insane. Hall of Famer


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