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T-post Tom 09-17-2019 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 14454670)
He didn't. Never touched him that I could find. Also, Marrone was in the wrong, fwiw.

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 14454668)
I dont recall him touching him...


Multiple media outlets reported there appeared to be a shove. Not 100% conclusive in the pic I found, but they had to be separated by other players. Don't care who started it, you don't do that to your HC. And you don't threaten reporters. Guy's a malcontent. Don't want him. Feel free to disagree.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">FWIW, Ramsey was heated coming off the field and appeared to shove Marrone away who was yelling at him. <a href="https://t.co/fsDiKoRSJU">pic.twitter.com/fsDiKoRSJU</a></p>&mdash; Cork Gaines (@CorkGaines) <a href="https://twitter.com/CorkGaines/status/1173295434833551364?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 15, 2019</a></blockquote>
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keg in kc 09-17-2019 12:42 AM

Something is off about that gif. Ramsey's motion looks maybe doctored. Not natural. I can't really explain what it is. It just seems weird. But it's got my video editor's eye twitching a little. Maybe it's just the compression and I'm overthinking it.

kysirsoze 09-17-2019 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 14454673)
Multiple media outlets reported there appeared to be a shove. Not 100% conclusive in the pic I found, but they had to be separated by other players. Don't care who started it, you don't do that to your HC. And you don't threaten reporters. Guy's a malcontent. Don't want him. Feel free to disagree.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">FWIW, Ramsey was heated coming off the field and appeared to shove Marrone away who was yelling at him. <a href="https://t.co/fsDiKoRSJU">pic.twitter.com/fsDiKoRSJU</a></p>&mdash; Cork Gaines (@CorkGaines) <a href="https://twitter.com/CorkGaines/status/1173295434833551364?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 15, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Look, I'm not saying it's ideal behavior, but Doug Marrone is a clown who has no business coaching an NFL team. In this instance he made a bad in game decision that undercut his biggest star player. The player was angry and he mismanaged that as well. Ramsey may be a hothead and a diva, but Doug Marrone deserved to get shown up on TV. He just sucks. Do I want Ramsey to be a cornerstone of our locker room? No. Would I take him as a mercenary to get us a ****ing SB with no reservation? Absolutely. My bigger concern is scheme fit, but if Spags wants him, ****ing get him. Andy will know how to handle this dude even if Doug Marrone has no clue.

kysirsoze 09-17-2019 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 14454676)
Something is off about that gif. Ramsey's motion looks maybe doctored. Not natural. I can't really explain what it is. It just seems weird. But it's got my video editor's eye twitching a little. Maybe it's just the compression and I'm overthinking it.

I think part of it is forced perspective. He looks closer to Marrone than he is so when he thrashes it looks like he makes contact. I think if Ramsey makes contact you see it land on Marrone. He's a ****ing NFL player. If he shoves you with any kind of force it will have an effect. Marrone doesn't even flinch.

T-post Tom 09-17-2019 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 14454679)
Look, I'm not saying it's ideal behavior, but Doug Marrone is a clown who has no business coaching an NFL team. In this instance he made a bad in game decision that undercut his biggest star player. The player was angry and he mismanaged that as well. Ramsey may be a hothead and a diva, but Doug Marrone deserved to get shown up on TV. He just sucks. Do I want Ramsey to be a cornerstone of our locker room? No. Would I take him as a mercenary to get us a ****ing SB with no reservation? Absolutely. My bigger concern is scheme fit, but if Spags wants him, ****ing get him. Andy will know how to handle this dude even if Doug Marrone has no clue.

Seems like you have another agenda with Marrone here. MP was shipped out by Andy & co after a heated debate with a coach. Team chemistry seems to be great right now. Not so sure Andy wants to throw a wet hen into the locker room.


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Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 14454680)
I think part of it is forced perspective. He looks closer to Marrone than he is so when he thrashes it looks like he makes contact. I think if Ramsey makes contact you see it land on Marrone. He's a ****ing NFL player. If he shoves you with any kind of force it will have an effect. Marrone doesn't even flinch.

Marrone may be older, but he's no shrinking violet. He's an ex NFL offensive lineman that's listed today at 6'5" & 275 lbs. Ramsey may have knocked you about with that kind of a shove, but not Marrone.

kysirsoze 09-17-2019 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 14454685)
Seems like you have another agenda with Marrone here. MP was shipped out after a heated debate with a coach. Team chemistry seems to be great right now. Not so sure Andy wants to throw a wet hen into the locker room.




Marrone may be older, but he's no shrinking violet. He's an ex offensive lineman. Ramsey may have knocked you about with that kind of a shove, but not Marrone.

lol. No agenda. He just sucks. :shrug: And I don't care who he is if a thrashing pro athlete shoves you, it would ****ing alter your gait. There is just clearly no contact here. The agenda at hand is yours and others with Ramsey. I know he's been a villain because of his shit talking of Tyreek, etc, but painting this as "laying hands on a coach" is just silly.

New World Order 09-17-2019 01:09 AM

The only thing Ramsey is going to lay his hands on is the Lombardi when he wins it as a MEMBER OF THE KANSAS CITY CHIEFS!

-King- 09-17-2019 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 14454673)
Multiple media outlets reported there appeared to be a shove. Not 100% conclusive in the pic I found, but they had to be separated by other players. Don't care who started it, you don't do that to your HC. And you don't threaten reporters. Guy's a malcontent. Don't want him. Feel free to disagree.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">FWIW, Ramsey was heated coming off the field and appeared to shove Marrone away who was yelling at him. <a href="https://t.co/fsDiKoRSJU">pic.twitter.com/fsDiKoRSJU</a></p>&mdash; Cork Gaines (@CorkGaines) <a href="https://twitter.com/CorkGaines/status/1173295434833551364?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 15, 2019</a></blockquote>
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How is what he's doing any different from what Brady does? Here's a 2 clips of Brady getting into it with a coach


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Mahomes_Is_God 09-17-2019 01:15 AM

If we get Ramsey it's all over. I'd be willing to bet that the moment he enters elite company he will turn into a complaisant little puppy just like AB did for the Patriots. He was at the top of the food chain in Jax, but he's just another soldier in KC.

T-post Tom 09-17-2019 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 14454689)
lol. No agenda. He just sucks. :shrug: And I don't care who he is if a thrashing pro athlete shoves you, it would ****ing alter your gait. There is just clearly no contact here. The agenda at hand is yours and others with Ramsey. I know he's been a villain because of his shit talking of Tyreek, etc, but painting this as "laying hands on a coach" is just silly.

You weren't there, you don't know. I wasn't there either, but multiple reputable media sites that I previously cited mention there appeared to be a shove.

My position is that Ramsey has had too many unacceptable incidents in his short NFL career to warrant trading away a high draft pick [s] for a short term "mercenary" that shows every sign of being a continuous locker room distraction. The cost and risk is not worth trading for him, assuming that the Jags even put him on the auction block. Other options can be pursued.

T-post Tom 09-17-2019 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Mahomes_Is_God (Post 14454692)
If we get Ramsey it's all over. I'd be willing to bet that the moment he enters elite company he will turn into a complaisant little puppy just like AB did for the Patriots. He was at the top of the food chain in Jax, but he's just another soldier in KC.

That's a nice wish.

-King- 09-17-2019 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 14454693)
You weren't there, you don't know. I wasn't there either, but multiple reputable media sites that I previously cited mention there appeared to be a shove.

My position is that Ramsey has had too many unacceptable incidents in his short NFL career to warrant trading away a high draft pick [s] for a short term "mercenary" that shows every sign of being a continuous locker room distraction. The cost and risk is not worth trading for him, assuming that the Jags even put him on the auction block. Other options can be pursued.

Ok stop going by what those sites are telling you. What are your eyes telling you?

Mahomes_Is_God 09-17-2019 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 14454694)
That's a nice wish.

If the Pats can keep a leash on AB we sure as shit can keep one on Ramsey. No body is a bigger diva than AB.

CasselGotPeedOn 09-17-2019 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 14454691)
How is what he's doing any different from what Brady does? Here's a 2 clips of Brady getting into it with a coach


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While I get your point, you realize everyone here hates Brady with the fire of a thousand suns....

T-post Tom 09-17-2019 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 14454691)
How is what he's doing any different from what Brady does? Here's a 2 clips of Brady getting into it with a coach.

Apples & oranges. Context.


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