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Willie Lanier 08-26-2019 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 14410642)
What the hell are you talking about? Gladiators were criminals who fought to the death sometimes against wild animals like lions and tigers. Football players dont do anything even close to that. Boxing/UFC is more like gladiators than football is but even that is a stretch.

Acting like Andrew Luck is a gladiator is ridiculous. He plays a violent sport sure but he is no gladiator. He's a QB who didnt want to go through rehab so he retired.

And acting like retiring from a profession that is incredibly detrimental to your health and overall wellbeing is a selfish decision is equally ignorant...

Food for thought

GloucesterChief 08-26-2019 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 14410642)
What the hell are you talking about? Gladiators were criminals who fought to the death sometimes against wild animals like lions and tigers. Football players dont do anything even close to that. Boxing/UFC is more like gladiators than football is but even that is a stretch.

Acting like Andrew Luck is a gladiator is ridiculous. He plays a violent sport sure but he is no gladiator. He's a QB who didnt want to go through rehab so he retired.

F in History here.

chinaski 08-26-2019 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 14411101)
F in History here.

Yup.

Hey PAChief, or WTF your name is. Don't assume the "history" from watching Gladiator with Russel Crowe is factually correct, you have NO ****ING CLUE what you are talking about.

No Clue. None. Nada.

BWillie 08-26-2019 10:59 PM

Why do people care so much if he was booed or not...like it is some national crisis drunk sports fans were upset that their best player was quitting. Who cares

Hes free to retire. Fans are free to boo. They bought their ticket. They can voice their concern or lqck therof as they see fit

BWillie 08-26-2019 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 14411101)
F in History here.

No? Seems like a reasonable description. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladiator

GloucesterChief 08-26-2019 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 14411138)
No? Seems like a reasonable description. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladiator

Gladiators were slaves but were not criminals. Gladiators rarely killed each other because it takes a lot of money to train and equip one, not to mention good ones could make themselves and their owner quite a bit of money.

neech 08-26-2019 11:53 PM

I like Gladiator movies.

Chargem 08-27-2019 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 14410383)
He deserves to get booed for retiring two-weeks before the start of the season. I dont understand why this is so hard to understand? You want to retire fine... Do it in the offseason before teams sign FAs and fans buy season tickets using their hard earned money... It is called empathy clearly Luck lacks that... Not saying this makes Luck an asshole in life but this was def a dick move.

Doesnt surprise me the QB lovers on here will defend anything a superstar QB does.

Saying he deserved to get booed and then saying HE lacks empathy? That's jedi mind trick level mental skills there, well done.

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 14410389)
Most positions that are executive level and/or essential to the function/operation of a business have a required minimum lead time to provide notice of voluntary departure/separation to minimize disruption.

Andrew Luck as a franchise QB would certainly qualify as a position essential to the function/operation of the Colts franchise.

Most employers don't have a back up for their executives on the pay roll who's job is to step in if the main man can't go?

Oh and the notice thing isn't really true for senior positions either, a lot of people get put on gardening leave and are immediately sent home the day they hand in their notice.

Chargem 08-27-2019 01:20 AM

I'm not going back through the thread to see if this has already been discussed, but I would have thought it was far more likely the Colts knew Luck was retiring but were asking him to delay the announcement so they could get more season tickets sold.

Hoopsdoc 08-27-2019 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Flying High D (Post 14411049)
Good call. Jim Irsay is well known for making logical level headed decisions. Jim would never ever do anything out of the norm.

Irsay is a man with issues. He’s far from stupid.

PAChiefsGuy 08-27-2019 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Willie Lanier (Post 14411097)
And acting like retiring from a profession that is incredibly detrimental to your health and overall wellbeing is a selfish decision is equally ignorant...

Food for thought

I have no problem that he decided to retire but doing it two-weeks before the start of the season is pretty selfish. Why not give it one last shot for your teammates and fans since they all expect you out there and for you to be the leader of rbe team? Colts invested a lot of time and money into Luck. Tne least he could do is not abrutly retire right before the start of the season.

stevieray 08-27-2019 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 14411186)
Colts invested a lot of time and money into Luck. Tne least he could do is not abrutly retire right before the start of the season.

That's not your decision.

It's just an example of how money has corrupted the game.

Hoopsdoc 08-27-2019 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 14411186)
I have no problem that he decided to retire but doing it two-weeks before the start of the season is pretty selfish. Why not give it one last shot for your teammates and fans since they all expect you out there and for you to be the leader of rbe team? Colts invested a lot of time and money into Luck. Tne least he could do is not abrutly retire right before the start of the season.

I don’t think Andy intentionally meant any disrespect or harm. He was just genuinely wrestling with a huge personal decision. I mean, think about it-walking meant leaving hundreds of millions of dollars on the table. Yet staying and going through the motions would have been even worse.

I think he made the right decision for himself, which is all any of us can do.

I wish him the best of luck. He’ll be successful at whatever he decides to do.

I hope the Colts bring him back someday so the fans can give him the send off he deserves. Maybe when he goes in the ring of honor.

TwistedChief 08-27-2019 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 14411186)
I have no problem that he decided to retire but doing it two-weeks before the start of the season is pretty selfish. Why not give it one last shot for your teammates and fans since they all expect you out there and for you to be the leader of rbe team? Colts invested a lot of time and money into Luck. Tne least he could do is not abrutly retire right before the start of the season.

He clearly played injured in 2016, underperformed his own expectations, and vowed never to do so again. As this season approached and he was dealing with a similar litany of injuries that weren’t improving, he made a decision. Could he have gone on IR for half the season or been out for the entire season and gotten paid handsomely to do so? Absolutely. You can argue that would be the more detrimental thing for the organization and its fans. I’m sure if he could do it all over again with perfect foresight he would’ve retired many months ago, but he didn’t know then that he was going into the 2019 season injured and not able to play to his expectations.

There’s no reason not to give this guy the benefit of the doubt, just as you (and I) regularly did with Eric Berry. I don’t regret that either.

chiefzilla1501 08-27-2019 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 14411136)
Why do people care so much if he was booed or not...like it is some national crisis drunk sports fans were upset that their best player was quitting. Who cares

Hes free to retire. Fans are free to boo. They bought their ticket. They can voice their concern or lqck therof as they see fit

I care mostly because of how spoiled that fan base is. You would think the way the Colts fans acted that Andrew luck left the team on a national televised special where he declared he'd rather be in Miami. The fans had Peyton, then found a franchise qb immediately after. Now they may end up with another franchise qb in the next draft. Boo hoo, Colts fans... You have to endure one year of bad qb play. Boo hoo, you haven't won a super bowl in about a decade.


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