ESPN ranks the 10 best WRs
1) Julio Jones
2) Michael Thomas 3) D Hopkins 4) OBJ 5) Tyreek Hill, Kansas City Chiefs Age: 26 | Highest ranking: 3 | Lowest ranking: 11 Hill broke a close three-man race for the fifth spot because he wrecks a game plan like no one else. Since 2017, Hill has 21 receiving touchdowns reaching 20 mph, four more than any other player. Best of NFL Nation • Inside the process of renaming the Redskins • Broncos' Jeudy a summer blockbuster • Bucs' offense looks better, but faces hurdles • Derek Carr has few excuses with new WRs • Will Dak be with Cowboys for long haul? The 4.2 40 speed helps, but that's not the only reason he breaks free. "There are a lot of fast guys, but no one can take a shallow cross 80 yards like Tyreek," one NFL coordinator said. "He's got that football awareness to know where space is." Many criticize Hill for choppy route running, pointing out that Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid maximize his ability. But Hill does No. 1 receiver things each week. He caught 77% of his third-down targets last year (20-of-26), third best among receivers with at least 15 targets on that down. His 42 receptions of 20-plus air yards since 2017 is an NFL high. "Vision is his No. 1 thing -- where to go, get there, angles, stop and go -- he just toys with guys," a different NFL coordinator said. 6) Mike Evans 7) Devante Adams 8) Keenan Allen 9) Chri Godwin 10) Amari Cooper Honorable Mentions: Diggs, Thielen, Galladay, Green, Sutton |
Lowest 11.
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I think Tyreek's production over OBJ should have won him the #4 slot, speed gives him argument for #3 potentially.
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No WR has made as many big plays as Reek since he came into the NFL.
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#1 most feared by CBs
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And Defensive Coordinators |
Only 1 on that list has a SB ring- isn't that correct?
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I'd take Reek over any other WR. All of those other guys have been the only threat and get way more balls thrown their way.
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List is bullshit.
1. Hopkins 2. Tyreek Hill 3. Julio Jones 4. OBJ 5. Mike Evans 6. Michael Thomas And i'm not sure that Amari Cooper and Devante Adams belong on that list over Diggs and Thielen. And yes, i would still take Tyreek over Hopkins if i were building a team. |
Explain to me how in the world Odell Beckham is better than Tyreek at this point in their careers.
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He impacts the game more than anyone else on the list.
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They're off by four spots with Tyreek.
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Scoreboard bitch
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OBJ and Dak are two of the most overrated players in the game
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T.Y Hilton not getting at least honorable mention is laughable. He’s better than Diggs, Golladay, and Sutton.
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For this offense and what we need from our WRs there is nobody I'd take over Hill.
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Michael Thomas way too low. Also Godwin criminally underrated |
Judging wide receivers depends so much on point of view. If you ask from the offensive point of view, QBs in general like bigger targets, that run crisp, disciplined routes with a wide catch radius. This is the traditional way most people rank WRs.
From defensive point of view, DBs fear speed. They say it is easier to make adjustments for height, but game changing speed is what strikes fear. That's why the Chiefs strike fear: play off, they're wide open underneath, play tight, and it may be a TD. |
I wouldn't take any of them over Reek
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Jones over Thomas? Hill at 4?
Stay stupid, ESPN. |
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He's top three.. List fail...
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Julio Jones is so overrated.
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He's the all-time leader in receiving yards per game, if I'm not mistaken. He's big, he's strong, he's fast, and can jump through the roof. He also doesn't complain. |
Nuke and Julio ahead of Tyreek I get, probably agree with
After that you can’t convince me Tyreek isn’t better. “But he plays for andy and catches balls from Mahomes” Sure. He also did what he does with alex smith So spare me |
If you think this list was bad, you should see the one they released for Offensive Tackles. Mitch wasn’t on it.
Mitchell Schwartz, who literally did not allow a single sack all season long is not considered one of the 10 best tackles in the league. Absolute insanity. |
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It depends on how you are ranking them.
I bet most people consider Tyreek Hill one of the most dangerous players in the league. I imagine some of them are judging by route-running and completely rounded WR skills. Some of them also want bigger WR for jump ball skills, maybe even blocking. Just look at it this way, even after all the productivity and impact Tyreek Hill has had he still has upside. Improving his routes, high-pointing the ball, catching with his hands, reading defenses ... Hill can still improve and become productive in other ways. |
I sure wish we could have traded for Hopkins to pair with Hill.
Trade Watkins for Hopkins would have been a better deal than the Texans got. |
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Are you saying he can't go up and grab a jump ball? If so you need to watch more games because I have seen him jump and catch balls multiple times and he's always way higher than everyone else. I think Tyreeks speed is why he isn't ranked higher and it's because these pundits don't actually watch these guys play. They think he's a one trick pony that is only good at running by guys, but Hill is great at route running. He's a speed guy, but can also be good in traffic and hardly drops a pass. He is athletic as **** and plays like he is alot taller than He is. He is going to be very productive for a long time and even when he loses some speed he's still going to be fast as ****. |
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He is top 3. He is the most well rounded we with speed, acceleration, hands, vertical, awareness.
He was a returner playing 2wr with Smith. Mahomes amped up his true ability and Hill worked harder to achieve what he has attained. Hopefully we get 5 to 7 more years at this level. Would love to see him in the hof. |
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If AB had played last season, probably (I say 'probably' because of course every season is different, and AB didn't actually play) Tyreek would've been 6th on this list.
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the reason Tyreek doesn't get many catches is because the catches he gets turn into touchdowns lol
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Most receiving yards on throws beyond 20+ yards downfield in a season since 2010:<br><br>◽ Tyreek Hill ('18) - 754<br>◽ Allen Robinson ('15) - 672<br>◽ Calvin Johnson ('12) - 652<br>◽ Jordy Nelson ('11) - 637<br>◽ Stefon Diggs ('19) - 635<a href="https://twitter.com/Ihartitz?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Ihartitz</a>: <a href="https://t.co/PQrOht2h1j">https://t.co/PQrOht2h1j</a></p>— PFF Fantasy Football (@PFF_Fantasy) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Fantasy/status/1282306720816136195?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 12, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Yes and Reek also has great ball tracking skills. Hopkins' skills in that area are superior though. Hopkins also catches everything.
I put Reek in the top 5 maybe top 3 I just think Hopkins is the best but they are very different receivers and they would compliment each other if they played together. It would be unfair. |
Some things to chew on...
I looked at all receivers that placed in the top 50 in either yards or receptions in the past 2 seasons. 27 make the cut. Taking 2 year averages for those players and re-ranking them by receptions, yards, and average of the two ranks gives you these lists. Yards per season: 1 WR Michael Thomas 2 WR Julio Jones 3 WR DeAndre Hopkins 4 WR Mike Evans 5 WR Keenan Allen 6 WR Davante Adams 7 WR Robert Woods 8 WR Tyreek Hill 9 WR Kenny Golladay 10 WR Amari Cooper 11 WR Chris Godwin 12 WR Stefon Diggs 13 WR Jarvis Landry 14 WR Odell Beckham 15 WR Tyler Boyd 16 WR Tyler Lockett 17 WR Julian Edelman 18 WR D.J. Moore 19 WR Allen Robinson 20 WR John Brown 21 WR Emmanuel Sanders 22 WR Calvin Ridley 23 WR Larry Fitzgerald 24 WR Robby Anderson 25 WR Cole Beasley 26 WR Dede Westbrook 27 WR Mohamed Sanu Receptions per season 1 WR Michael Thomas 2 WR DeAndre Hopkins 3 WR Julio Jones 4 WR Keenan Allen 5 WR Davante Adams 6 WR Robert Woods 7 WR Julian Edelman 8 WR Tyler Boyd 9 WR Stefon Diggs 10 WR Jarvis Landry 11 WR Amari Cooper 12 WR Mike Evans 13 WR Allen Robinson 14 WR Odell Beckham 15 WR Tyreek Hill 16 WR Chris Godwin 17 WR Larry Fitzgerald 18 WR D.J. Moore 19 WR Tyler Lockett 20 WR Emmanuel Sanders 21 WR Kenny Golladay 22 WR Cole Beasley 23 WR Dede Westbrook 24 WR Calvin Ridley 25 WR Mohamed Sanu 26 WR John Brown 27 WR Robby Anderson Average of two ranks 1 WR Michael Thomas 2.5 WR DeAndre Hopkins 2.5 WR Julio Jones 4.5 WR Keenan Allen 5.5 WR Davante Adams 6.5 WR Robert Woods 8 WR Mike Evans 10.5 WR Stefon Diggs 10.5 WR Amari Cooper 11.5 WR Tyler Boyd 11.5 WR Jarvis Landry 11.5 WR Tyreek Hill 12 WR Julian Edelman 13.5 WR Chris Godwin 14 WR Odell Beckham 15 WR Kenny Golladay 16 WR Allen Robinson 17.5 WR Tyler Lockett 18 WR D.J. Moore 20 WR Larry Fitzgerald 20.5 WR Emmanuel Sanders 23 WR Calvin Ridley 23 WR John Brown 23.5 WR Cole Beasley 24.5 WR Dede Westbrook 25.5 WR Robby Anderson 26 WR Mohamed Sanu As for reference of explosive plays, Hill ranks first in 40+ with an average of 7.0 (Mike Evans came in #2 at 6.5, while 3 players tied for #3 at 4.5 - Golladay, Cooper, and Lockett). When it comes to 20+ yards, Julio Jones ranked #1 with 22.5, Mike Evans #2 at 21.5, Kenny Golladay #3 at 20.5, DeAndre Hopkins #4 at 19.5, and Tyreek Hill at #5 with 19.0. With regard to TDs, Hill comes in #1 with 9.5 and then a 4-way tie for 2nd with 9.0 between Locket, DeVante Adams, Hopkins, and Thomas. First down percentage puts Mike Evans #1, Golladay #2, Chris Godwin #3, Julio Jones #4, and John Brown #5. If any receiver is criminally underrated, to me its Mike Evans. Taking an average ranking of all the categories presented here (Rec, Yds, TD, 20+, 40+, 1st%) would result in the following average (Bolded top 10): 4.67 WR Mike Evans 5.67 WR Julio Jones 5.83 WR DeAndre Hopkins 6.33 WR Tyreek Hill 7.83 WR Michael Thomas 7.83 WR Kenny Golladay 8.83 WR Davante Adams 10.00 WR Chris Godwin 10.17 WR Amari Cooper 11.00 WR Stefon Diggs 11.33 WR Tyler Lockett 12.67 WR Keenan Allen 12.67 WR Robert Woods 12.67 WR Tyler Boyd 14.33 WR Odell Beckham 15.17 WR Jarvis Landry 15.17 WR John Brown 17.00 WR Allen Robinson 17.00 WR Calvin Ridley 17.83 WR D.J. Moore 18.17 WR Julian Edelman 19.17 WR Emmanuel Sanders 20.83 WR Robby Anderson 21.83 WR Larry Fitzgerald 24.00 WR Cole Beasley 24.50 WR Dede Westbrook 25.50 WR Mohamed Sanu And that ranking really is about how I'd see the top 10. Personally, I'd go 1. Julio Jones 2. DeAndre Hopkins 3. Tyreek Hill 4. Mike Evans 5. Michael Thomas 6. Kenny Golladay 7. Davante Adams 8. Chris Godwin 9. Stefon Diggs 10. Tyler Lockett |
Julio has averaged 150 targets a season for his career if you take out the one season he played only 5 games. I couldn't imagine the numbers Hill would put up if he was targeted like Jones or Thomas.
In 2018 Tyreek had 137 targets, which is by far the most he's had. If you take his averages for catch percentage and yards per reception, and give him 200 targets like Jones has had his numbers would look like this 200 targets/127 rec/2159 yards/18 TDs That would have been the record for most receiving yards in a season by almost 200 yards. He would have been tied for the 3rd most rec TD in a single season. If that happened we're not only talking about arguably the best season by a QB in history, but the greatest season by a WR in the history of the NFL. Here are the avg amount of targets for the top 5 guys on the list (AVG include any season in which the player played over 50% of games) 1. Jones 150 2. Thomas 151 3. Hopkins 150 4. OBJ 143 5. Hill 104 Hill is a perennial 1st team all pro if hes targeted like those other guys. He got screwed in 2018 and should have been a 1st team AP WR, not flex. ****ing Keenan Allen got one of the spots ahead of him. 2018 1st Team WRs Jones 113 rec/1677 yds/8 TDs Hopkins 115 rec/1572 yds/11 TDs Thomas 125 rec/1405 yds/9 TDs Allen 97 rec/1196 yds/6 TDs Tyreek Hill 87 rec/1479 yds/12 TDs How in the **** did he not get on that list? Are receptions really that important to earn the honor from AP? Keenan Allen? Really? Hill had 10 less receptions, but almost 300 more yards and doubled his TDs. Hill is criminally under rated, but Dez Bryant has our boys back. Says he's the 2nd best player in the NFL behind Mahomes. Dominique Foxworth thinks either Tyreek or Julio is the best WR in the league. Here watch this video. <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/LxBi_bvgm0A" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe> |
Dez is correct. The thing about Tyreek is that game plans have to be built around him, possibly more so than any other WR in the league. He's unique, and one of the things that makes a player particularly dangerous is when he's unique. You can build a defense against those other receivers because they all match an archetype. There's no archetype for Tyreek Hill, so you can't pull anything out of your normal book against him.
I'm wondering why Ninkovich is being asked to speak on these things. He seems to have bad football takes. Foxworth may be a former bronco, but it seems that he has consistently good thinking and he's interesting to hear. |
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The only issues with Julio's game is that he's proven to be a bit injury prone and he doesn't score the TDs you'd expect from someone as incredible as he is. Oddly enough, Calvin Johnson had a similar issue. |
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In any case, I'd probably say: 1. Julio Jones 2. Tyreek Hill 3. Mike Evans 4. Deandre Hopkins 5. Michael Thomas But all of these are pretty close, IMO. I wouldn't get upset with any ranking as long as these dudes are in the top 5. |
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