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RunKC 10-04-2021 10:53 AM

Anyone here ever had trauma?
 
Well besides Chiefs trauma that is (looking at you 2013 Indy playoff collapse).

I’m currently helping my friend who has been in deep trauma for over a month. His dad has Alzheimer’s and a month ago he didn’t know who his son was anymore which has triggered severe PTSD symptoms for my friend. Now I’ve read he’ll likely have triggers sporadically for the rest of his life regarding this.

I would not ever wish this shit on my worst enemy. It’s ****ing horrific.

My friend begins EMDR on Thursday. I’ve read good things about it. If anyone has ever had EMDR let me know.

Hoping for the best

Ebolapox 10-04-2021 10:54 AM

yep. not fun.

FlaChief58 10-04-2021 10:56 AM

Being married to my ex wife for 5 years changes a man...

TLO 10-04-2021 11:02 AM

Yes. My anxiety and depression stem from trauma I experienced when I was younger.

I don't know much about EMDR, but I hope it is helpful for him.

Hammock Parties 10-04-2021 11:14 AM

After the Ravens pantsed us in 2011, yes.

Abba-Dabba 10-04-2021 11:21 AM

I think everyone has had trauma in their life. Don't know any thing about EMDR, but it has 4 letters which is never a good thing.

Personally would rather take the Mike Tyson approach of a huge handful of shrooms and see where it landed me.

RunKC 10-04-2021 11:36 AM

EMDR apparently helps put your past trauma in the past and help reduce triggers and pain so you can move forward with life

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Eye movement desensitization and reprocessing, or EMDR, is a technique that some psychotherapists use to treat people experiencing psychological distress.

How it works

The theory behind EMDR is that traumatic memories make changes in the brain. These changes stop the mind from processing information properly, which causes anxiety and intrusive thoughts.

Experts believe that remembering the traumatic events while performing rapid eye movements allows the brain to process these memories correctly and integrate them into the story of the person’s life.

ku_jhawk23 10-04-2021 11:36 AM

EMDR is Eye Movement Desensitizing and Reprocessing. It can help some with PTSD, but it is hit or miss. It's a very simple thing, nothing major. It's a form of hypnosis almost, involving moving eyes back and forth with sounds or taps, usually looking at moving lights. You are supposed to focus on the trauma, and the hypnosis desensitizes you. It can be for a short period after the session, or possibly longer. The science behind it is debated though.

rabblerouser 10-04-2021 11:38 AM

Nope. I'm perfect, and so are my parents and everyone I've ever come across. Especially my ex-wife.

Jewish Rabbi 10-04-2021 11:43 AM

I gave Billay’s asshole some trauma last night

staylor26 10-04-2021 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 15872065)
I gave Billay’s asshole some trauma last night

LMAO

I literally came in to post that Billay’s asshole and mouth have absolutely had trauma.

KurtCobain 10-04-2021 11:50 AM

Just off the top of my head, yes. There were some things. I coped with it by using drugs and causing others trauma. Then I stopped, and now I cope with it by trying to help others and overworking myself. Best wishes to your friend.

POND_OF_RED 10-04-2021 12:25 PM

I have a very good friend who is a therapist for an inner city school district dealing with very traumatic cases in teenagers and she swears by EMDR. It’s a process, and you have to believe in it yourself or you’ll never actually put in the effort needed to pull some of those memories from wherever you locked them away in your brain. Best of luck to your friend. Tell them to just believe in the process and be open to it all. Not sure how old he is, but I know the older generations have a little fear and skepticism towards any kind of therapy so it’s wonderful to hear that they’re taking the correct steps to try and get better instead of just trying to cope with what’s going on.

Edit: She also showed me a song by NF called “Mansions”. I’m on my phone so I can’t embed but here’s the link and some of my favorite lyrics in the spoiler that really resonate to me about locking memories away and how that affects your mindset later in life.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uF5QE3-ox4o
Spoiler!

Fish 10-04-2021 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED (Post 15872177)
I have a very good friend who is a therapist for an inner city school district dealing with very traumatic cases in teenagers and she swears by EMDR. It’s a process, and you have to believe in it yourself or you’ll never actually put in the effort needed to pull some of those memories from wherever you locked them away in your brain. Best of luck to your friend. Tell them to just believe in the process and be open to it all. Not sure how old he is, but I know the older generations have a little fear and skepticism towards any kind of therapy so it’s wonderful to hear that they’re taking the correct steps to try and get better instead of just trying to cope with what’s going on.

Reading into this, there's clearly a lot of pseudoscience involved...

MOhillbilly 10-04-2021 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KurtCobain (Post 15872081)
Just off the top of my head, yes. There were some things. I coped with it by using drugs and causing others trauma. Then I stopped, and now I cope with it by trying to help others and overworking myself. Best wishes to your friend.

Same

Hammock Parties 10-04-2021 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15872072)
LMAO

I literally came in to post that Billay’s asshole and mouth have absolutely had trauma.

You have first hand knowledge of this huh?

POND_OF_RED 10-04-2021 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 15872293)
Reading into this, there's clearly a lot of pseudoscience involved...

For sure. It’s impossible to quantify results scientifically with this. I’m not saying dump years into it if you’re not seeing results, but I do know people personally that this has been life changing for. You are the only one in charge of your brain, though, so if you don’t believe it’s going to work you’ll never allow it to. Sounds like he is optimistic in finding results if he’s taken the first major step to give it a try at least.

lawrenceRaider 10-04-2021 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RubberSponge (Post 15872017)
I think everyone has had trauma in their life. Don't know any thing about EMDR, but it has 4 letters which is never a good thing.

Personally would rather take the Mike Tyson approach of a huge handful of shrooms and see where it landed me.

The shrooms thing actually has scientific study behind it helping those with PTSD.

https://med.nyu.edu/departments-inst...t-psychedelics

DaFace 10-04-2021 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 15872332)
The shrooms thing actually has scientific study behind it helping those with PTSD.

https://med.nyu.edu/departments-inst...t-psychedelics

I feel pretty confident that shrooms (or at least psilocybin) will be an accepted medical treatment in the next decade. There's a huge amount of momentum behind it.

Graystoke 10-04-2021 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 15872429)
I feel pretty confident that shrooms (or at least psilocybin) will be an accepted medical treatment in the next decade. There's a huge amount of momentum behind it.

I'm all in favor of the new shroom movement.
Micro dose is what I have been reading.

Vladimir_Kyrilytch 10-04-2021 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 15872429)
I feel pretty confident that shrooms (or at least psilocybin) will be an accepted medical treatment in the next decade. There's a huge amount of momentum behind it.

Probably won't even take a decade. My state already legalized it last year:
In 2020, voters in the U.S. state of Oregon passed Ballot Measure 109, allowing the "manufacture, delivery and administration" of psilocybin, a naturally occurring psychedelic prodrug. While psilocybin remains illegal nationally, the passage of the law made Oregon the first U.S. state to legalize the drug.
ETA:
The chief petitioners behind the bill were Sheri and Thomas Eckert, both therapists who had been working for years to legalize psilocybin because of its potential benefit for people struggling with conditions including depression, anxiety, and addiction.

Rams Fan 10-04-2021 03:41 PM

Yes. I had/have PTSD. Went to therapy. Didn't end up going through EDMR, though it was recommended.

I'm in a better place now than I was before. Actually getting help is something that shouldn't be stigmatized.

RunKC 10-23-2021 08:52 AM

Update: my friend did EMDR but they started all the way back to childhood. He said it was so crazy bc he had memories come up that he hasn’t thought of in 20 years. He likened it to going to your attic and finding things you forgot you had.

He said it’s helped his brain process things and give him better closure.

I’m gonna get this done for some shit in my childhood.

EPodolak 10-23-2021 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15908356)
Update: my friend did EMDR but they started all the way back to childhood. He said it was so crazy bc he had memories come up that he hasn’t thought of in 20 years. He likened it to going to your attic and finding things you forgot you had.

He said it’s helped his brain process things and give him better closure.

I’m gonna get this done for some shit in my childhood.

I know a little about EMDR...do you know how his practitioner applied it? Waving hand, or electronic light, or some other way?

It's great he responded so well to it.

FAX 10-23-2021 09:15 AM

I've had her.

And I can aver that Trau's mother was a disappointment.

FAX

arrowheadnation 10-23-2021 09:26 AM

Both of my parents have passed away (my mom from cancer 9 years ago and my dad from cancer in Feb, and I'm not even 40 yet). I'm an only child and still single. Things have been pretty rough at times, but I'm getting bye. Definitely not looking forward to the holidays...don't know if it counts as "trauma" or not.

RunKC 10-23-2021 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by EPodolak (Post 15908358)
I know a little about EMDR...do you know how his practitioner applied it? Waving hand, or electronic light, or some other way?

It's great he responded so well to it.

He was told to relax as if he was looking out of the window in silence on a car trip. He held a vibrating hand piece in each hand that did specific vibrations. These vibrations help your brain with processing and triggering the amygdala which is the part of the brain that holds fear and fearful memories

displacedinMN 10-23-2021 09:31 AM

Definition of trama is very different than it was just a few years ago. With that said, if someone feels like they are having a difficult time coping, dealing with it, obsessing on the issue.

Get help. It is ok.

Especially as we get older. The brain has less capability to respond to change. (from my doctor and therapist)

I am on Sertraline. Less than I was two years ago, but it helps. I got away from the triggers too.

Nothing to be ashamed of.

mr. tegu 10-23-2021 09:41 AM

Anyone here ever had trauma?
 
I have done some brief EMDR with clients over the years. It’s not some magical fix for trauma, as no therapeutic method is, but it can be beneficial for a time for people who have really buried traumatic things, refuse to consider them, or are so overwhelmed by feelings when discussing trauma that they can’t hardly even get words out to provide necessary information. I am not a specialist in it so I don’t have any unique tools but have asked people to do things like finger tapping or following a light with their eyes.

It’s use is really determined by the client and their challenges as opposed to being something that can be applied to anyone and just assume it will work.

The basic goal is for people to talk about and feel the unprocessed trauma differently than they have by making them focus on the task, which ideally forces them to take a step back from all of the negative thoughts and emotions so you aren’t constantly overwhelmed with emotions preventing any sort of improvement.

Simply recalling things or thinking or feeling differently about them doesn’t mean improvement though. It can be relieving to get those things out there but ultimately the client still has to work through the thoughts and feelings ti find improvement in their daily functioning.

Frazod 10-23-2021 09:59 AM

The worst PTSD I ever saw was a friend of one of my buddies that I met a couple of times - he had been a combat medic with a SEAL team, so on top of being a medic he had some SEAL training. He saw some serious action but wouldn't talk about it. He was a little guy, but in peak physical condition and very intense, and holy shit anything could set him off. I liked him; he was a really nice guy underneath all that damage. As I said before I only met him a couple of times, and never had a chance to get close to him.

Despite his qualifications he couldn't hold a job; something would always happen to trigger his temper and he'd get whacked. He drifted from place to place, until he finally killed himself a couple of years ago. Either he never tried to get help or it just didn't take. Such a waste. :(

Jive Ass 10-23-2021 11:05 AM

Trauma, anxiety, major depressive disorder. Yep. PM me if you need to talk.

EPodolak 10-23-2021 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15908387)
He was told to relax as if he was looking out of the window in silence on a car trip. He held a vibrating hand piece in each hand that did specific vibrations. These vibrations help your brain with processing and triggering the amygdala which is the part of the brain that holds fear and fearful memories

Interesting. No shifting the eyes back and forth then? That's how it used to be applied.

People vulnerable to obsessions and getting caught up in trauma lack that ability to process emotions easily. Could happen to anyone really. Weird as it may sound stuff like EMDR is great for getting stuck memories on through.

Demonpenz 10-23-2021 11:23 AM

Psycosis bi polar depression anxiety for meeeee

LongSufferingToady 10-23-2021 12:01 PM

EMDR is akin to a form of hypnosis. It helps some people, but it's not a sure thing.

PTSD, depending on the severity, never goes away. The best one can do is figure out the triggers for an episode and create distance for those triggers.

In other words, stay the hell away from things that trigger the reliving of the trauma. Respect the trauma and stay away from triggers.

Your friend caring for his dad may not have that luxury. If his dad's Alzheimer's is triggering a disabling PTSD event in your friend it may be time to get caregivers involved. I know it's not cheap, but it's better than being disabled with PTSD.

When my father-in-law descended into dementia my ex tried to do it all herself. It was just too much. We all pitched in to help. But he would wander off. He wouldn't recognize people. He could get violent. He was trashing the house. We found a service of caregivers (all Filipino women for some reason) and the price was reasonable. The three women would rotate in shifts using the spare bedroom (8 hours each). They were a godsend. Very religious from a specific Catholic order, though we weren't looking for that, it just happened that way. They were wonderful to him and allowed the rest of us to visit, hug, cry and respect him as he faded away.

Here's hoping your friend is able to get some help.

Hoopsdoc 10-23-2021 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 15872712)
Actually getting help is something that shouldn't be stigmatized.

This cannot be stressed enough. SO many people fail to seek help because they feel like it’s a sign weakness.

Flying High D 10-23-2021 07:57 PM

Anybody have Asperger's Syndrome with a side of Anti-Social Behavior Disorder?

Fansy the Famous Bard 10-24-2021 08:44 AM

I have had what is described as trauma by my therapist, and wife and people who love me where i have anxieties. I grew up kind of in a tough situation. But thats nothing compared to what my wife or her ex-husband both deal with. Also, my children deal with trauma on a scale that absolutely eats them up. Not to go into too much detail, but both my wife and her ex were army and fought in baghdad a decade ago. Just brutal what i see them go through, daily.

My kids have a mother that abandoned them as teenagers.. and thats rough on a young developing psyche.

There are different levels of trauma, that ive gotten to see first hand. The worst part is not being able to do anything to "fix" it but just being there every day to provide a safe existance for them all. Keep encouragement, resources (therapy, medical etc), or acknowledgment and comfort is the best you can do which only feels like you're just here for them. Its hard not being able to just reach out and fix things.

The ex-husband is still a wonderful father to their 2 kids, and he's a fellow Vet so while it sounds weird to want to help the guy so much - i really do love him for what he has sacraficed.

Mahomes_Is_God 10-24-2021 08:47 AM

Nah im always fine

Fansy the Famous Bard 10-24-2021 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 15908972)
This cannot be stressed enough. SO many people fail to seek help because they feel like it’s a sign weakness.

Yeah my 22 year old son still fights me on going to therapy. Even when he sees it helping his younger sisters. Just cant get through to him about it.

Fansy the Famous Bard 10-24-2021 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Flying High D (Post 15909019)
Anybody have Asperger's Syndrome with a side of Anti-Social Behavior Disorder?

My father has Asperger's. Wasnt diagnosed until he was 65.


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