Most Realistic Chiefs' Mock
Give me your absolute best guess at what you think the Chiefs will do with their 12 draft picks. I'm looking for what you feel Veach will do... trades, players, etc.
I'm not looking for who you want the Chiefs to draft. I've seen every iteration of that. A short one-liner of why you think each pick makes a lot of sense would be sensational. If you do trades, please at least reference this Trade Value Chart |
Fun exercise.
29. Treylon Burks, WR, Arkansas. Slim pickings at edge in this run, at least for this draft slot. Burks gives KC another super-sized WR, and one who can be a real weapon after the catch. 30 -----> to Detroit (30, 135 for 34, 97, which is 1 point off in value on the Hill chart) 34. Jalen Pitre, S, Baylor. Still not loving the EDGE values (Mafe was off the board at 22 in this run), I move on to a different player who fits in perfectly with the Chiefs' defense. Pitre will be the nickel corner and gives KC safety flexibility in 23+ should KC not retain Juan Thornhill. 50 -----> to Seattle (50, 121, 243 for 41. This is -4 for Seattle on the Hill but close enough to roll with) 41. Arnold Ebiketie, DE, Penn State. Finally make an EDGE move and get a good athlete with the potential to grow into a more complete player. I do like his twitchy athleticism, and his arm length makes up for being a little shorter than a typical Chiefs DE). 62. Kingsley Enagbare, DE, South Carolina. Enagbare is not an overwhelming athlete, but he wins contests and is versatile. He gives me a strongside pairing for Ebiketie long-term. 94. Jalen Tolbert, WR, South Alabama. Tolbert is a smooth receiver who gives you a little bit of everything, and I can't avoid the double-dip to keep rebuilding the room. 97. Bryan Cook, S, Cincinnati. With Pitre in the fold, this might seem like an unnecessary move, but Cook gives KC a physical, true SS sort and someone who is a major upgrade as the subpackage dime safety. 103. Matt Waletzko, T, North Dakota. Looking around for a developmental T, Waletzko pops out over more mentioned prospects like Rasheed Walker and Zach Tom because of his length (36" arms). Potential long-term RT answer. I take him and groan inwardly at passing on Jeremy Ruckert, TE, and some great CB options (McCollum, Armour-Davis, Bryant). 7.233 ----> (233, 243 for 210. Neutral on TV chart) 210. Sam Webb, CB, Missouri Western. Come on, now. You didn't think Veach was just going to hang out the whole rest of this, did you? He comes back up to grab a really athletic developmental CB prospect. And that's it. KC reinforces the WR and DE spots with guys who can contribute right away and adds some legit star potential to that room. Pitre gives them the flexibility needed at DB to continue shopping in the bargain bin for CBs and trying to develop its way forward. With the way the board fell, it didn't make sense to move up for a DE in the first, and I don't believe KC will do that for a WR, ultimately. |
I made this list without seeing what Duncan had posted -
No trades Draft: (1-29) WR Treylon Burks, Arkansas Draft: (1-30) S Daxton Hill, Michigan Draft: (2-50) DE Cameron Thomas, San Diego State (Boye Mafe if still available at 50) Draft: (2-62) CB/PR Marcus Jones, Houston (Use on slot) Draft: (3-94) OT Kellen Diesch, Arizona State Draft: (3c -103) TE Jelani Woods Draft: (4-121) RB Rachaad White, Arizona State Draft: (4-135) LB Malcom Rodriguez, Oklahoma State Draft: (7-233) OL Austin Deculus, LSU Practice Squad Draft: (7-243) DT Noah Elliss, Idaho Practice Squad Draft: (7-251) CB Sam Webb, Missouri Western State, Practice Squad Draft: (7-259) DE Adam Anderson, Georgia, Await Legal |
No extra WR, but TE Jelani Woods and RB Rachaad White could really contribute to our receiving group.
CB Marcus Jones not very big but he can match up with speedy quick receivers. |
I have no idea, but I'd bet against the grain. Everyone is so locked in on WR and DE. I'll say they jump up a handful of slots and draft a DT, and go DB early as well.
So I guess I'll say Wyatt. IDK the DB. Hill is long gone IMO. |
One thing to think about-
Andy's offense is notoriously difficult for rookies. Now, are we going to do some things differently this season since we have only Mecole as a system vet? Maybe. But I would think it's possible that we'd only draft one WR high expecting some immediate production in any given year. I'd love to double dip, myself, but I don't know. Probably both wouldn't play much unless one had a lot of KR/PR potential. |
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Wyatt is likely off a lot of boards because he has 4 separate domestic violence incidents from college. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him slide late into day 2. |
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I won't be surprised if we are all wrong on our mocks, but there will be an exciting, big infusion of talent next week. |
round one: Burks, Mafe
round two: Pierce, Thomas |
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I've learned to give a little more grace and not assume when it comes to that, so I would trust the team if they draft him... but I'd be waiting for the other shoe to drop as long as he was a Chief. |
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Alright. The chiefs have 38 roster locks and 8 bubble players by my estimate.
QB: Mahomes, Buechle, Henne (0 need) RB: Helaire, Jones, Williams, Gore, Burton (0 need) WR: Scantling, Smith-Schuster, Hardman, (bubble: Gordon, Dieter, Fountain) (need 2-3, only MVS is on contract next year) TE: Kelce, Gray, Fortson, Bell (0 need) OT: Brown, Wylie, Niang, (bubble: Wanogho) (need 1) IOL: Humphrey, Smith, Thuney, Router, Allegretti (0 need) DE: Clark, Danna (bubble: Kaindoh) (need 2-3, Clark gone after this year.) DT: Jones, Nnadi, Saunders, Wharton (need 1) LB: Bolton, Gay (bubble: Harris) (need 2-3) CB: Sneed, Fenton (bubble: Baker, Barcoo) (need 2-3) S: Reid, Thornhill (bubble: Bush) (need 1-2) ST: Butker, Townsend, Winchester Overall this means that the Chiefs need to add 11-16 players to compete for roster spots between the draft and PFAs. To compete for starting positions, the chiefs need 1 DE, 1 WR, 1 LB, 1 DT, and 1 CB. 1 S is also critically important. To meet these needs, the chiefs should, in my opinion, emphasize acquiring early second round picks. In my scenario: The chiefs trade 29 to SEA for 40, 72 The chiefs trade 30, 62, and 2023R3 to NYJ for 35, 38 35: Arnold Ebiketie 38: Travis Jones 40: Logan Hall 50: George Pickens 72: Tariq Woolen 94: Bryan Cook 103: Zyon McCollum 121: Braxton Jones 135: Brandon Smith 233: Damone Clark 243: Jeremiah Gemmell 251: Markquese Bell 259: Isaiah Weston I will update with reasoning later tonight, but I look forward to your critiques. |
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I don't think we get a WR in the first unless we trade up.
Take a DE and DB and then get Christian Watson in the 2nd. |
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Also I apparently left out pick 94. I will add it, selecting Bryan Cook. Thank you for the good catch. |
Meh, i'll post it here too:
Round 1, Pick 29; Andrew Booth Jr. (One of my favorites of the draft, this is the star of my Mock. Kaiir Elam could work here too assuming Booth is gone) Round 1, Pick 30; Boye Mafe (lazy pick here by me, but the Chiefs need a rusher and i expect Karlaftis to be gone) Round 2, Pick 50; George Pickens (1st round talent imo, I struggle if he's my favorite or 2nd favorite WR in the draft) Round 2, Pick 62; Jalyn Armour Davis (Chiefs get a 2nd big time physical attribute corner, giving them two outstanding boundry corner rookie prospects to develop) Round 3, Pick 94; David Ojabo (possibly wishful thinking here but that injury creates uncertainty and he'll have to redshirt his rookie season.I think he slides into the 3rd where these types of guys are generally seen taken) Round 3, Pick 103; Max Mitchel (Chiefs add some competition at swing tackle with a player that has the potential to outright take the RT job) |
So far the best 'published' mock I've seen has been a 2-rounder from Nate Tice:
29: Arnold Ebiketie 30: Treylon Burks 50: Roger McCreary 62: Jaquan Brisker I say it's realistic because it's just not one of those "well the Chiefs need A, B, C so we'll reach for whatever is there" kind of drafts. All of those guys could reasonably be the BPA as well as guys who fall into a nice need niche for us. They represent opportunity AND value. I just feel like that's how Veach will approach it. Personally I don't think Ebiketie is the right build here, but maybe the long arms WILL be enough to make up for the relatively short stature. By his board I could also see us going with Andrew Booth at 29 and Drake Jackson at 50; same positions but their orders are flipped and I think you have better scheme fits with both guys. But in all his draft was reasonable top to bottom. |
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That's my boy right now. The more i watch him the more i love his game. |
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I just think this is a more fair approximation than what we've seen from the "Chiefs will select Logan Hall and Skyy Moore because Spags loves versatility and they need a WR!!" crowd. |
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Ebiketie is 6'2" to 6'3" 250-260
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If the Chiefs somehow came away with Booth and Pickens i honestly wouldn't give a **** about the rest of the draft. Im so smitten with those two, lol.
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Surely you mean your #1 target at CB where we're picking and not the #1 CB in the draft
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29: Andrew Booth 30: Treylon Burks 50: Drake Jackson 62: Jaquan Brisker Booth can start day 1 outside. Burks can be schemed for his first year and help improve his route running. Jackson is at least a dedicated passrusher year 1. Brisker is a damn good 3rd safety and probably a Thornhill replacement in year 2. |
I'd rather take Kyler Gordon then Booth. Not sure Booth is a spags CB
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29. Boye Mafe, EDGE, Minnesota
30. Kyler Gordon, CB, Washington 50. Cameron Thomas, EDGE, San Diego St. 62. John Metchie lll, WR, Alabama 94. Nick Cross, S, Maryland 103. Cade Otton, TE, Washington |
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Agree with taking Booth at 29, Jackson at 50. I'd be pretty ecstatic to get Brisker at 62, too. |
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But with an arm length over 34 inches (longer than Drake Jackson and Jermaine Johnson), that may get him over the hump with the staff. It's not impossible. I don't think it's terribly likely, but it isn't absurd. It isn't 'man, Spags would really love Logan Hall here...' Look at the list and you've got Jones, Davis, Ojabo, Leal, Thibodeaux, Williams, Hall, Sanders, Mafe, Karlaftis, Watt, Cam Thomas, Nik Bonnitt and Aidan Hutchinson (among others) all as guys with arms shorter than Ebiketie has. I feel like that might matter more than his raw height. |
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Above average height, arm length and strength. Will play physical and is a fluid athlete. Extremely versatile coming from a major program as a top recruit who was asked to do everything. Good ball skills, willing tackler (perhaps too aggressive at time). Excellent intelligence and a hot motor. I honestly can't see a single thing Spags wouldn't like about this guy. He's almost built in a lab for what we'd want to do. |
Yea, Booth is a no brainer if he’s there.
I don’t think he gets by the Bills at 25 though. |
I'm going to laugh if Veach trades up for a CB.
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Guys I think are better than Booth:
Derek Stingley Jr. Ahmad Gardner Trent McDuffie Roger McCreary I'm sure this will get a facepalm from someone but I don't like how Booth gets burned by quick receivers |
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If Derek's lisfranc injury isn't a problem it isn't remotely debateable.
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Yep the way Clemson uses their CBs always worries me when it comes to playing man to man.
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Maybe you shouldn’t take one single person’s evaluation as gospel, especially a minor note in that evaluation.
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Just presenting an alternative since we all keep falling in love with players.
I did it with Christian Watson earlier. This is a high floor low ceiling draft anyway and most guys have question marks |
Wouldn't **** with Stingley. Not a fan of someone who quits because they got burnt.
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Here's my stab at what Veach will actually do:
1-6. ER Kayvon Thibodeaux, Oregon (KC trades 1-29, 1-30, 3-94 to CAR for 1-6) Here's what we know, when it comes to fixing an issue Veach is incredibly aggressive. So with that, I fully believe that Veach acquired draft capital in order to go get an upper-tier pass rusher in this draft. From a pure pass rush standpoint, there's probably not a better player in this draft than Thibodeaux. If his demeanor truly has rubbed some teams the wrong way, he's going to be a value outside of the top 3. Carolina is a perfect trade partner in the top 10 as they lack picks and they are outside the division and conference. I think Veach can work both Carolina's need for picks and Thibodeaux's potential devaluation to make a move and secure a top edge. 2-50. CB Tariq Woolen, UTSA After losing Ward, CB is a legitimately enormous need for KC that's being extremely underplayed. We've caught wind of the Chiefs looking at a ton of late-round corners but not many early on. I believe, though, KC is taking one much earlier than expected and they did have a pre-draft virtual with Woolen. Woolen has only played CB for two years but he's got special tools. Being 6'4" with a 42" vertical and 4.26 speed is special, but he's also shown extremely smooth hips and especially for his size. Getting a big, long corner again is probably on the docket and Woolen could be an absolute stud after a couple of seasons. This is Veach's 2022 big-dick swing at traits like he's made in the past with guys like Willie Gay and Mecole Hardman. 2-62. WR John Metchie III, Alabama Metchie is every bit as good as, if not better than, Jahan Dotson who is regarded as a late 1st rounder. Metchie tore his ACL later in the season so may not make much of an impact in 2022 but KC really doesn't need him to be a playmaker right now. Metchie can learn the playbook and come back ready to secure a starting role in 2023. 3-103. WR Erik Ezukanma, Texas Tech Ezukanma is a very intriguing WR and the Chiefs didn't have him in for a visit for nothing. He's got some major upside that was held back by subpar QB play during his career. He's got a lot of JuJu in him and could easily be a late-day-two selection that far exceeds his stock. 4-121. RB Rachaad White, Arizona State The Chiefs have no doubt at least been looking at RBs and the one thing that pops for me looking at the core stable they have is that they lost the speed and pass-catching element they had with Jerick McKinnon. I think their visit with White was very telling in that they want more from the position long-term. The signing of Jones to a 1-year deal means they aren't satisfied with just CEH either (at least in my mind). 4-135. OT Kellen Diesch, Arizona State The Chiefs were looking at Diesch early on and his ability in the passing game is no doubt intriguing. I don't love his shorter arms at tackle but it hasn't seemed to be a problem yet. I think that Veach is going to tend to go back towards a bit more athleticism on the perimeter OLine. 6-200. TE Lucas Krull, Pittsburgh (KC trades 7-233, 7-243 to NE for 6-200) The Chiefs have seemed intent on looking at adding another TE and Krull definitely fits as a nice project to work with. He's solid as a receiver and has time to develop behind Kelce. I think his passion is a definite plus, and so is the fact he's a local kid. 7-251. CB Samuel Womack, Toledo Womack is a guy that you look at primarily as a nickel corner but the Chiefs are lacking in that area a bit with the free-agent losses of Tyrann Mathieu and Mike Hughes. Womack isn't likely physical enough as a tackler to make a move to free safety but he is disruptive as a corner with a tone of PBUs and he has the agility to play in the slot. 7-259. S Nasir Greer, Wake Forest Providing his medicals were in line during his top-30 visit, I can see Greer as the type of player Veach would take a swing at late. Greer looked like an elite player in the making early in his career before a torn ACL took him out in 2020 which was followed by a very down and inconsistent year in 2021 where he didn't look 100% back. The Chiefs don't have a standout need at S this season. |
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Looking at our roster, I don’t understand how so many at chiefsplanet are ok with low ceiling wrs with our current roster of wrs. We have 3 solid wrs. Are guys like Moore, Tolbert, or pickens gonna get much playing time? We need a high ceiling wr like burks or watson. At least burks & watson could fill the gadget role at an elite level. The defense needs players with that solid ability level that many of y’all are proposing using draft level capital for at wr. We need a top de and top wr and depth and solid players across our defense. Fill the depth for next year at wr in the 4th or 7th with developmental guys.
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I could see Veach jumping to 10 for Jermaine Johnson.
I legitimately am expecting a trade up at this point. I think the two 1sts are burning a hole in his pocket. |
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I'd prefer to trade around like a madman and land like 6 picks in the second round, honestly; I think that's where the talent in this draft is. |
Round 1, 29: Boye Mafe, EDGE
Round 1, 30: Jahan Dotson, WR Round 2, 50: Logan Hall, EDGE/DT Round 2, 62: Roger McCreary, CB Round 3, 94: Alec Pierce, WR Round 3, 103: Bryan Cook, S |
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I would never stop cumming |
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Plus I forget which year it was but he wanted to go CB in the 2nd round but they all got taken before he could trade up for one. |
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I fully expect it to happen. |
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You use Gladney as an example but Bert wasn't motivated to flip any picks to land him. |
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Booth, Elam and Gordon. He will get one of those guys right where we are, IF he takes a CB that high. I feel like Edge and WR are going to be round one priorities, possibly Safety if the board dictates. |
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Get a guy in the 2nd and then another one later on.....and the offense will be just fine. Even with how it stands right now....we're a top 10 offense. |
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He may be the first non-DE/OT drafted. That ain't happening. Even if you want to sell the farm for the 6th from Carolina, Stingley may go before that spot. |
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Kelce and three #2/3 types would absolutely dominate. Again, we have the luxury of a generational talent under center. Put that to its highest and best use by letting him cook. "**** it, Tyreek down there somewhere" is something Matt Cassel could have done. We'll see the best version of Patrick Mahomes when we make his weapons DEEPER, not when we emphasize the top end of them. |
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In 2023....you're still sitting good with Kelce, MVS, Tolbert, Ezukanma and you have the ability to draft another 1-2 rookies before the season while Kelce is on the downturn of his career. And that's not even factoring in FA or any of the guys we have now turning into something: Fortson, Gray, Powell, Fountain or a TE that we draft this year. |
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">2. Derek Stingley Jr. is the hottest name in the draft. There's even buzz about him being drafted in the top 3 picks.<br><br>Said one scout when asked about his subpar 2020 season—"I'd have checked out on that team, too. That was a shitshow."</p>— Matt Miller (@nfldraftscout) <a href="https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/1517591882464903170?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 22, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
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Sauce Gardner is probably the top pick at CB. I wouldn't bet against Booth and McDuffie going ahead of Stingley too. |
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Im only guessing because thats all we can do, my guess is Edge and WR in round 1. If that turns out to be Edge and CB/S, sweet. If its WR and CB/S and he waits on Edge? How would you feel about that? |
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Still not likely, I see two DEs and two WRs. Not necessarily in the first two rounds. CB, S, T, DT, LB, TE... Man this is going to be the best draft! |
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I like the thought. I can see it. I think I’m the only person who isn’t enamored with Woolen. I just don’t trust him that high. And I know he probably will go that high. But he seems like the kind of raw, super fast athlete that Al Davis spent the end of his life failing with to me… |
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#29. DE Mafe
#30. WR Dotson #50. Someone falls here: Wyatt, Ojabo, Pickens, Dean, Elam, Pitre #62. CB Woolen |
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