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-King- 02-17-2021 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15553543)
Were you completely against this before the game captain hindsight? Were you talking about how stupid it was then?

I didn't post anything about the line before the game. I did say that I thought we'd run a offense similar to the bills game and just run short to intermediate plays that allowed our players to get yac and slow down their pass rush.

-King- 02-17-2021 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15553539)
They tried screens and they didn't work. The Bucs were all over them.

The certain weren't going to run right at Suh and Vea. That would have been suicide.

I'm interested to know what kind of gameplay would have worked considering so many think they mailed it in.

There are a lot more short plays that aren't screens. The game plan against the Bills was what we should have done. That game the ball was coming out of Mahomes hands really quickly and a bunch of passes were in the air 5-10 yards where we let the WR/TE do the rest.

BossChief 02-17-2021 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15553510)
By moving Remmers from a position he was playing well to LT.

By doing that both sides were major weaknesses. We could have kept Remmers at RT, Wylie at LG and then used someone else at LT and doubled that up. Instead we compounded the backup issue by moving everyone around.

This is a rare occasion when we see things similarly. This is exactly what I’ve been saying since the game (and during/before the game). Remmers was solid at RT and moving him was a huge mistake the coaches should have seen coming.

In 709 snaps at RT, Remmers didn’t give up a single sack and was only flagged 4 times all year.

I’d like to hear the justification behind moving him to LT instead of plugging in someone else there and giving chip help from backs and tight ends.

alpha_omega 02-17-2021 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by journeyscarab (Post 15553422)
Maybe its me, but I don't remember our players trashing the 49ers this much after our win. But what do you expect from an Arians coached team. Trash at the top all the way to the bottom. Enjoy the championship win, you wont see another before we do.

No, it's not just you. Agreed.

BossChief 02-17-2021 11:11 AM

This situation smells a lot like Andy being out of his mind due to the situation with Britt and handing off responsibilities to his coaches which shit the bed.

But I may be wrong.

htismaqe 02-17-2021 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 15553598)
This situation smells a lot like Andy being out of his mind due to the situation with Britt and handing off responsibilities to his coaches which shit the bed.

But I may be wrong.

That may explain why Bienemy can't get a HC job. Maybe he needs his hand held too much.

Rain Man 02-17-2021 11:14 AM

I'm not a fan of Devin White. He was being kind of a punk on the field.

Tribesman 02-17-2021 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15553604)
That may explain why Bienemy can't get a HC job. Maybe he needs his hand held too much.

This.

So then EB could've made adjustments, but didn't.

philfree 02-17-2021 11:33 AM

I don't think any game plan was going to work with 4 backup linemen on the field. And with Mahomes toe he just couldn't do what he normally does and running from three d linemen isn't the same as running from one. I'm going to assume Mahomes had input with the game plan as well so I'm not blaming Andy for anything. We were screwed going in and they knew it.

ThaVirus 02-17-2021 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 15553607)
I'm not a fan of Devin White. He was being kind of a punk on the field.

He's a mouthy bastard, for sure, but I can deal with that.

I draw the line where he tried to break Mahomes in half. He's forever on my "dirty bitch" shit list.

Red Dawg 02-17-2021 11:44 AM

They are arrogant assholes but he isn't wrong. It was clear to everyone in America after the first quarter we had a serious OL problem but Andy did nothing to neutralize the pass rush at all. He left a bunch of nobodies that were overmatched out to dry including Mahomes. Should have gotten the backs involved for protection and screens and shortend up the pass routes. He did nothing and Mahomes ran for his ****ing life the whole game.

Chiefspants 02-17-2021 11:46 AM

Andy got his *** handed to him. He admitted as much after the game.

To be honest the gameplan wasn’t radically different than it was against SF’s line. We didn’t give Fish that much help against Bosa but it worked out because Bosa got gassed and Mahomes evaded what maaay have been a game-altering sack late in the 4th. Having the ball for 70 plays and calling a significant amount of horizontal runs seemed to play into that.

I have zero idea why we didn’t see Andy at least try to vary things up. Yes, Kelce was getting wide open in the first half (that had to be frustrating for Andy to see) but it’s not going to matter when Mahomes is constantly running for his life.

ljmhawk 02-17-2021 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 15553524)
Hey rabble, how are you doing? I hope all is well in your world.

I don't agree with you or anyone else's NFL rigged conspiracy theories, but I don't wish to spend countless minutes and posts arguing about it. I hope when the Chiefs win another Super Bowl you can enjoy it and not let the fact you think the NFL is rigged water down your enjoyment.

i agree, this guy saying Reid was told not to try to win is a complete idiot. the chiefs got their ass kicked plain and simple. you can bitch about the refs, bitch about the beat up OL but they lost. it’s over, get over it.

BlackOp 02-17-2021 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ljmhawk (Post 15553731)
i agree, this guy saying Reid was told not to try to win is a complete idiot.

Chris Simms said the most "shocking" aspect of the SB, after watching it 3 times, was Reid's game plan.

He said he studied KC all season...and had no idea what they were doing. It wasn't "normal"...

He said it was dumbfounding as they had adapted/evolved their offense earlier in the season and had become truly "multi-faceted".

AR essentially set them up to fail...he was calling long evolving pass plays with a 3rd string o-line. Simms said it played directly into TB's strengths.

Sorry but this is as believable as the time Alex Smith couldn't solve a basic cover 2 for five games....Andy had two weeks to create a gameplan..and is usually unbeatable in that scenario...especially with a Superbowl on the line.

Reid is a NFL company man...if he were instructed to take a dive...he would. Judging by the insane, one-sided officiating...sure looks like this one was predetermined.

All post-season they had been letting teams play with minimal interference...then, out of nowhere, wallop the Chiefs with a record amount of calls...many weren't even fouls.

I've never seen a SB officiated like this...

People think he's this all powerful figure in the NFL...nope...he's a regional branch manager...one of 32. They work under a corporation comprised of owners....who work for those above them.

Is what it is...Falcons took a dive a few years back.

Their reasoning was that being up 2 scores with under 5 minutes...NE out of time outs... wasn't safe enough...so they opted out of running down the clock and taking a FG :)

Chiefspants 02-17-2021 12:17 PM

Or you know, Andy was dealing with the fact his son may have murdered a five year old with a pending investigation about how he got the car and perhaps internal reviews of workplace drinking in the facility.

But sure, it’s more likely the NFL would want to risk a long term injury to their most profitable star by letting him get brutalized for an hour long game.

Shine on, BlackOp.


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