COVID Memo from the NFL
 

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here’s more from today’s memo, which also says the team responsible for a canceled game because of an outbreak among unvaccinated players/staff will be responsible for financial losses and subject to potential discipline from the commissioner. Wow. <a href="https://t.co/Q86a2WcG1K">pic.twitter.com/Q86a2WcG1K</a></p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1418257495550738432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 22, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">And the biggest penalty of all for players:<br><br>&quot;If a game is cancelled and cannot be rescheduled within the current 18-week scheduled due to a Covid outbreak, neither team’s players will receive their weekly paragraph 5 salary.&quot;<br><br>You read that right: NOBODY GETS PAID.</p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1418261816493363203?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 22, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Good

Fair enough.

Pretty wild. It will be interesting to see the response that unvaccinated players who get COVID receive. Especially if it costs the team a game.

Whew, they're applying a ton of pressure. I'd imagine the league will be nearly fully vaccinated pretty soon.

Did that go through the NFLPA? I don’t mind the forfeiting part, but the nobody gets paid part seems like it could cause some legal issues with contracts. I mean players get paid when they get injured right? Why would they not if they got sick?

Yeah, it seems dicey to not pay them. Flu shots are available, but if a player decides to skip the shot and misses a game due to the flu, they still get paid.

Adjust your Buffalo Bills final standings accordingly

It will be flat out embarrassing if any games have to be canceled this year.

Feel how you want about the vaccine, but if my employer is hanging my multi million dollar salary over my head over getting it or not, you better believe that needle is going in my arm.

They honestly should have canceled some of the games last year. The rescheduling that took place was a shit****.

If they're going to go through the pain that they did last year to reschedule games, I doubt any teams are going to have to go through this. Because there will never be a case where they CAN'T reschedule a game.

If the NFL really wants this to sink in to the unvaccinated players and team staff, they need to be clear what the procedures are for rescheduling

Well this will certainly help address any vaccine hesitancy among players/coaches/team staff.

Good. Curious if Cole Beasley and Josh Allen will get it now.

Any player who is not more or less guaranteed a roster spot better be vaccinated, or they could make otherwise tough decisions a lot easier.

Has anyone heard what percent the chiefs are at with the vaccine

Article doesn't say who, but apparently 13 teams have reached the 85% vaccinated threshold. That's a lot better than I would have thought. Hopefully the Chiefs are one of them.

https://www.nfl.com/news/13-teams-ab...r-vaccinations

660 thousand minimum salary. For so many a one year stand. Get vaccinated.

well this isn't the flu

So with this strong of a stand on vaccine for players what’s next half to have it to attend a game?

Based on everything we've heard and read, I'm certain the Chiefs are one of them.

I wonder if it's implied that players will have to the new monthly/bi-monthly boosters they're talking about as well?

And holding players' money and chances at the playoffs over their heads seems......a little tyrannical, doesn't it?

They didn't have to cancel any games last year, with one less week, and there were a half dozen outbreaks.

Vaccine or not, it's unlikely to be a big issue.

Guessing so. With the culture they have, it probably wasn't even a fight. Kelce even partnered with Walgreens to promote the vaccine to the public.

I'm not sure what kelce getting paid by Walgreens has to do with any other player on the Chiefs

While the penalties are pretty stiff, it's hard for me to imagine a ton of games being cancelled this year. Players sitting out? Sure. But I think most teams are 50%+ vaccinated, so you'd think that would prevent too many cases where a game has to be actually cancelled.

The difference is that a game being cancelled is a HUGE financial hit to the league, where an injured player doesn't cause the game to be cancelled.

I'm sure they can justify not paying players for a game that didn't exist. Again, I don't really think this is gonna matter, but I'm pretty confident the league's lawyers have signed off on it.

When there was discussion about possible canceled games last year I remember part of it involved nobody getting paid.

Unless it becomes a major problem, I don't see too much issue with rescheduling. Did it fine last season.

I think this is way more of the story here. The NFL doesn't want to put these rules in place. They want teams to hit the threshold so they don't have to deal with cases anymore. I don't get punishing the other team for this. But you'd have thought the Jon Rahm situation would have nudged players to consider.

So, not just the players on the team that causes the forfeit don't get paid, but BOTH team's players don't get paid. I completely misread that the first time I went through it.

Last I read, the Chiefs were only 5 people away from the team and staff from being 100% vaccinated.

Great news

Well it's silly their vaccinations rate isn't higher as much as they make. Hopefully it's an end to the pre game testing bullshit this year. What an abomination that was.

Are they still doing their own research?

Going to be real funny when a fully vaccinated team comes down with covid.

LMAO

The memo won't apply to them.

Hopefully they only let vaccinated fans into stadiums

Do you work for a living? That's how the system operates. Don't like it, you look for another job.

Funny?

What in the **** would be "funny" about a team needing to forfeit a game this season?

You're a ****ing assclown.

I mean, gotta understand the business side, right? God forbid one team has multiple symptomatic cases. How much is that going to wreck a season? For the same reason you can understand why a plant manager doesn't want to lose 10 workers on a manufacturing line because they went out sick for 2 weeks.

Can you imagine what would happen to the bills if Josh allen got legit symptomatic covid, missed multiple weeks, and the bills miss the playoffs?

This should be interesting when a vaccinated player is the initial one testing positive...or the ones who have it are all vaccinated.

Are they, then, going pay them while they sit out?

This going to be a disaster to legally implement ...especially if the vaccines arent FDA approved.

My neighbor was vaccinated in March and just tested + for Delta...so being vaccinated doesn't prevent you from catching/spreading it.

How are they going to prove who had it first?

Perhaps he meant funny odd, not funny ha ha.

Suck it Cole Beasley.

Oh it will be funny, because it will destroy the narrative.

You can't differentiate this particular scenario?

Yes. The memo specifies that the unvaccinated will not be paid for missing games due to Covid.

DeAndre Hopkins going Full Cole Beasley:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Never thought I would say this, But being put in a position to hurt my team because I don’t want to partake in the vaccine is making me question my future in the <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Nfl</a></p>&mdash; Deandre Hopkins (@DeAndreHopkins) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeAndreHopkins/status/1418297095786668039?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 22, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hmmm discrimination......... Interesting idea

If a fully vaccinated player tests positive and they feel fine, why should they be restricted from playing?

The vaccine also reduces the risk of them transmitting the virus.

At the OTA's the Chiefs announce they were at the 85% level. So its already a non-issue for us.

There was a discussion on here somewhere about it. It was the players pressuring players to get the vaccine so they don't miss practice or games.

They won't necessarily be, according to this:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Other key competitive aspect of today&#39;s memo: <br><br>Vaccinated individuals who test positive and are asymptomatic can return to duty after two negative tests 24 hours apart.<br><br>Unvaccinated individuals still subject to mandatory 10-day isolation period.</p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1418258413142818816?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 22, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

What a moron. You are going to give up millions and millions of $'s over a vaccine?ROFL<iframe scrolling="no" allowtransparency="true" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets/widget_iframe.06c6ee58c3810956b7509218508c7b56.html?origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.chiefsplanet.com" title="Twitter settings iframe" style="display: none;" frameborder="0"></iframe><iframe id="rufous-sandbox" scrolling="no" allowtransparency="true" allowfullscreen="true" style="position: absolute; visibility: hidden; display: none; width: 0px; height: 0px; padding: 0px; border: medium none;" title="Twitter analytics iframe" frameborder="0"></iframe>

I read some preliminary data from a legit scientific study and the preliminary evidence is thats its really rare that a vaccinated person gets no symptoms, tests positive and passes it on to others.

By the time they hit the field, that should be established.

No..he is just piss whining .

Bill O'Brien's stupidity won't be able to save you from this one Deandre.

His body his choice?

Bullshit. The issue is he doesn't want to be forced to take a medical procedure that he isn't comfortable with. You understand the difference, right?

Nope they don't, and for his age range the science doesn't even support it.

But hey what ever

Sure. He's welcome to sit at home and lose his salary. He's not welcome to potentially cost his entire team, coaches, front office, concessions workers, etc. their salaries. Pretty simple to me.

A private business, which the NFL is, can make any work place rule they chose to. They say everyone wears blue shoes or Tuesdays or your fired, its your choice to continue to work there.

The only prohibited exceptions are the ones in the constitution, Race, color, creed etc. (Read the constitution for the whole list)

Oh, so you are ok with discriminating........ Interesting

Yep.

And his choices have consequences.

It's the same thing as free speech and free thought. You are protected from reprisals from the government, not your employer. Your employer makes a rule. It's your decision to continue to work there or find employment elsewhere. It's your choice.

:spock:

Sorry, I forget that you are missing a few screws. Carry on.

No no no, I mean I get it. Unvaccinated players could pass on COVID just like Vaccinated players and that has to be dealt with!

Makes perfect sense, logical if you ask me.

Shall we ban all players that have the potential to pass on any disease or just covid?

??? When did he lose that right? He doesn't have to do shit the NFL tells him to do. He can seek employment elsewhere or just go sit on his couch and tell the NFL to take its vaccine and shove it up their ass.

Ahh yes

"Take this experimental non-approved jab that wont stop you from getting covid or passing it on or we could take your check away"

Solid argument, I mean its not like the players union will do anything.

Did you mean to type USC, or perhaps CFR?

Cool...so the NFL is trying to implement coercion. What they are attempting to do is illegal...but loopholed as "were not "forcing" you to take it BUT......"

The moment a player has an adverse reaction to the vaccine...is the moment they get sued through the eyeballs. They'll probably get sued regardless.

This inst going to stand...I give it 48 hours.

Pretty much, really dumb idea for the NFL.

He's being told he can't do his job unless he gets a medical procedure that is not approved that may or may not protect him and his teammates. You can't see the legal ramifications with that?

THIS!

Lmao nothing I typed is wrong. But carry on!

I appreciate twitter identifying the dumbasses in the NFL for us.


It's like what this thread is doing for CP

Israeli data coming out confirms natural infection stronger than the vaccines.

If Beasley had Covid already he'll have the last laugh.

lmao the cognitive dissonance is real.

Can't make it up, considering the vaccines ARR is less than 2% I don't know why you are so sure of yourselves.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’ve spoken to NFL players who feel the league changed its tune, going from “it’s your choice” to get the Covid vaccine to now feeling “forced” (their word, not mine) to get it because of the restrictions for unvaccinated guys … <a href="https://t.co/LItropZ0m8">https://t.co/LItropZ0m8</a></p>&mdash; Kimberley A. Martin (@ByKimberleyA) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByKimberleyA/status/1418266798252777481?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 22, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

What kind of a ****ing asshole that is in close confines with teammates day in and day out...and DOESNT want to get vaccinated? I mean, this is just baffling. Back when I got my vaccination shots as a kid in like the early 90s I don't remember anyone giving any shits at all about vaccines.