WR Room?
 

Chiefs have a competitive WR room, I'm curious what you guys think...

Are we done, or will we add a vet FA?
What's the WR depth chart look like this year?
What roles will these guys play?
What do you expect next year's WR depth chart to look like?

Personally, I think we're done adding WRs. If it were me though, I'd be highly intrigued with OBJ if the Rams don't sign him and I'd be willing to see what Julio's got left in the tank on a prove-it deal.

Depth = JuJu, Moore, Hardman, MVS, Gordon, Coleman, Ross, Fountain, etc...

JuJu & Moore play the slot, Hardman and MVS run the deep routes. Gordon, Goleman, & Ross are all fliers with upside and I hope at least one develops into their true potential!

Next year I could see us adding a RD 1 WR and resigning JuJu + Moore, and Ross.

I don't think it's all that competitive.

It goes 4 deep before you get into ST specialists and roster chaff.

And the 'set' players have defined skill-sets rather than a real broad array of abilities.

It's tolerable. I would say it's roughly league average and that's fine given our QB and OL. The passing game will be strong still.

But the WR room itself is fairly mediocre, IMO.

Anything we can do to improve?

Would you consider Toney from NYG for next year's 3rd?

Agreed. And bolded the real key here.

Our receiver group right now are a bunch specialists really.

JuJu is the highlight of our revamped WR room. When he was signed the first thing i said was, "he can be a nice piece, but extremely disappointing if he's THE piece".

I would absolutely take him for a 4th and quite probably a 3rd. He's more a YAC guy than an obvious do it all, elite all-rounder, imo. But man, he DOES have elite skills. If we got him at that value, even with all the character flags, I'd be much happier with our WR room.

At the moment it feels like we're willing one of Gordon, Coleman or Ross to become a top player again, and that seems a reach.

What are the top 5 WR Cores in the NFL? Where do our guys stack up against the rest of the AFC West?

Top 5
-Bucs
-SEA
-PIT
-LAC
-MIA

I think we're deeper but with a lower ceiling than the rest of the WR Core's in the AFC this year.

cinci needs to be on there IMO.

Why Seattle? Can you name anyone outside of Metcalf and Lockett on that team?

You're leaving out teams like the Bengals and Eagles.

Cincy, sure. How about the Cardinals? Maybe the Vikes or Rams.

The Rams are up there too with Kupp, Robinson, and Jefferson. Would also not discount the Cowboys.

I guess, in the grand scheme of things, I don't care. All I really care about is if the Chiefs have the horses to get it done.

For starters, we should ditch any expectations someone is going to step in and replace what Tyreek was immediately because it isn't happening.

What you do have is, arguably, the best TE in the NFL. JuJu has shown he can be an upper-echelon #2 in the past, so maybe he reclaims his former glory. There's little doubt JuJu is better than anything that trotted out there last season. Hardman is definitely a good slot. Maybe not a top 5 slot, but he's probably in that next tier.

The questions lie, really, in what's going to happen at the Z. Can Hardman slide in and have a youngster take over the slot? Can Moore take right over and be effective? What exactly is MVS bringing to the Chiefs beyond "deep threat?"

All told, if you get the same production out of JuJu, MVS, and Moore as you got out of Tyreek, Pringle, and Robinson then you have a solid situation.

The latter group put up:
111-1239-9
42-568-5
25-264-3
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178-2071-17

If MVS can get you his normal 550-ish, then can Juju get you 900 and Moore 600? I'd think it's attainable goals for all those guys.

It does feel like you'll have 3 capable WRs on the field at all times between the 4. Ross is a wildcard that could add even more.

"Don't sign Tyreek, make Pat turn good WR's into great ones".

Bitches about who we got.

In my opinion our WR room is already better than it was last year. Not even sure how it's debatable. Do we have anyone as dynamic as Tyreek? Obviously not unless Moore develops way faster and to a higher degree than expected and/or Ross regains and surpasses the flash he showed as a Freshman. But in terms of effectiveness and depth I don't even know how you could argue that we're not already in better shape at WR than we've been at any time in Mahomes's career.

I think part of the problem is that our new #1 WR was Pittsburg's #3 WR last year.

I don't know about that, honestly. The Steelers spread the ball around pretty equally to all of Johnson, Claypool, and Smith-Schuster in 2020 and started to in 21 before JuJu got hurt.

All while having a corpse at QB throw them the ball.

The OVERALL physical talent level is significantly increased. We're talking measurables, and there's no question.

The OVERALL experience level is also significantly increased, with vets Juju and MVS actually having played meaningful football, Hardman with another year, and even Moore played a lot of snaps and was very productive in college.

we went from a stud in Hill with a gadget guy in Hardman along with a bunch of bullshit to a four deep at a minimum of actual NFL level talent.

OVERALL, this group should be better; but it'll take a bit. By the end of the season it should be humming.

I think The Franchise and kccrow are right that the more useful exercise is to look at the receiving group and therefore include Kelce. That makes things look a lot better. The other aspect probably worth considering is just how heavy the usage of players is and whether teams have been spreading it around more or less to WR 3s and 4s - but I'm far too lazy to check this.

If I'm counting Kelce but not bothering with other teams' TEs, so being generous, I'd probably say from the AFC off the top of my head:

- Bills might have a marginally better top 2 but honestly not convinced beyond Diggs
- Dolphins - Have a better 1-3 with Hill, Waddle and Wilson vs Kelce, MVS, Moore/Juju - but worse depth beyond that
- Jets - Are Wilson, Moore and Davis better as a 3? Maybe. Trash beneath that
- Patriots - Lol, nope. Absolute garbage
- Bengals - Top 3 are obviously better but not sure they have better depth beyond that
- Browns - We're far better 1-6
- Ravens - We're far better 1-6
- Steelers - We'll see what Pickens offers, their 2-3rd options might be better, but then their depth is poorer.
- Colts - I like Pittman but we're better 1-6
- Titans - Have shat on their WR core, we're better 1-6 unless Burks turns out elite
- Chargers - Might have a better 1-2 but what do they have afterwards? Pure JAGs
- Broncos - Rank mediocrity even if Jeudy takes a step forward
- Raiders - Yep, better 1-3 with Waller but worse depth.

Obviously just the AFC and there's loads of talented receivers elsewhere, but the more i look at it the less terrified I am of other AFC teams' options at WR.I say that as someone who is not particularly high on MVS, Juju or Hardman.

I think Gore gets cut and that makes room for one of the practice squad guys to make the team.

I can appreciate depth, but a healthy star #1 AND #2 WR is worth more than depth all the way through your #6 WR I think.

Our squad is currently filled with good #2 and #3 WRs, plus some some high upside fliers. By the end of this season, I wouldn't be surprised if Moore was our best WR. Maybe we add a RD 1 WR next year and he and Moore are our new WR Core moving forward + whichever additional guys from this year stick.

It depends.

This is an offense that is very deep schematically. Andy schemes up ways to get guys the ball. Spreading the ball around rather than just feeding Hill and Kelce may well be a healthier and more difficult to stop philosophy.

I'm just a little jealous of other teams' WR cores, but rooting for our guys to prove they're just as good.

I hope Moore and Ross both really grow into their full potential and we add 1st RD WR next year. Our future core could be Kelce + 1st Rd WR, Moore, Ross & MVS is your deep threat.

The only team I'm jealous of WR is the Bengals and that's only because of Chase he is like the second coming of Randy Moss. That's who he reminded me most of anyways.

When Skyy gets his groove or handle on the playbook he will start getting a lot of looks and we will be right up there again. We are better off without DRopp and Pringle. I'm excited see how the new guys play and if Patrick spreads the ball around our offense could be more potent than when we had Tyreek at least that's my theory. I want to get Mahomes back to 5000+ and 50+ this year and beyond. I know he is going have a 7 touchdown game in him.

So no not really jealous because I think with our new set of DBs younger and hit harder when the Rookies get the feel for speed of the game this defense is going be vicious. Really I want teams to be jealous of our Defense than us be jealous of their WRs.

I don't disagree, it's hard not to look at the Bengals and Rams last year and think you really need at least 2 elite to very good WRs and a third that's a decent threat. Even counting Kelce our quality at receiver is quite a lot worse.

I think this depth approach only works if Mahomes has patience and trust in them all. The value then is he doesn't have to lock in, he can go through progressions and ideally having a number of competent WRs means one can provide an option. We should also be able to absorb injuries better. "Quantity has a quality of its own"

But look, I wanted us to ADD someone alongside Hill, I assume that was most people's preference. I don't think it's a given we're better at the position this year at all. I'm just not convinced outside of the Bengals and Raiders there's loads of AFC teams in much better shape.

They are probably done this year but they shouldn't be. It's the weakest WR room for the Chiefs on paper since 2014. MVS is a below-average #2. Hardman has proven himself to be a bad X WR but will get a shot at the Z position this year. He's a better fit there but we will see. I really like JuJu as a slot WR and don't expect much from Moore since he's also a slot WR with serious doubts on his ability to play outside in the NFL.

This offense will be a lot like NE's of Tom Brady's final years there. Good slot WR's and a HOF TE. Hopefully Kelce can stay healthy because he's taken a beating and getting up there in age.

Your takes are shitty.

He's not that far off, mate. I agree that our WR room is made up of #2 & #3's, could go either way. Kelce's getting older, feels like we'll be leaning on him a little harder this year. We've added too much depth to be likely suitors for another FA WR, but that doesn't mean I personally wouldn't want them to kick the tires on OBJ or Julio 1/3rd through the season still available and we come out looking limp. I think Moore might be our best bet at WR currently.

which tells me that you want NAMES, and aren't really paying attention.

It's an interesting mix in the WR room, for sure. In my opinion...

They didn't sign Marquez Valdes-Scantling with the idea that he was going to morph into this all-around, elite WR.

They signed him because they wanted to maintain the elite deep ball threat that forces teams to "defend every blade of grass" and keeps teams in the 2-deep shell.

They were losing that with Tyreek Hill. When Valdes-Scantling and Hardman (or even just one of them, really) are on the field, the Chiefs have speed available that will keep teams in the shell.

I expect Hardman to do a lot of the short things they asked Hill to do last year in adjustment to the shell. He was effective in those snaps down the stretch. So really, the Chiefs are adjusting, IMO, to have Hardman do the short stuff they were doing with Hill, and have Valdes-Scantling do the deep stuff.

I expect Smith-Schuster and Skyy Moore to be major upgrades from Robinson and Pringle at the other 2 WR spots.

And I think Skyy Moore has more ability to play outside than people expect. Just because he's 5-10 doesn't mean he's a slot-only guy, especially in an offense that DOESN'T rely on the back-shoulder throws.

Saying this room is worse than it has been since 2014 is way, way off. It's worse at the best WR spot than last year but better everywhere else. Which is still better than anything before 2018 and at least has the potential to be better overall than last year.

If they still have some juice left in the tank, yeah sure, bring me a big name WR. I see no issues with that.

Right now we are going with who we got and I'm ok with that. Patrick will be forced to spread the ball around and doing that and our RBs involved we are going be a potent offense. The biggest need is still the D line. Get a DT or Edge Rusher but another lineman would be great and would help our rookie DBs if we can get pressure on the quarterback.

I'm on the side of let's see how training camp goes and see what Reid can do with what he has before we go bonkers thinking we need another WR. Who knows, we ALL might just be surprised in what we have. I personally, would rather look for maybe 2 more veteran defensive players. Now that Ingram is off the table, my question is who is out there that we can possibly get? Who do you like? Just my .02

Agreed, I wouldn't look in to adding wr until at least 1/3rd way through the season, grab some DL vets now and see if one of these WRs is still be sitting around later like OBJ.

Hardman should come in focused on taking the next step in his career. He was pretty good down the stretch last year. It seemed to start clicking for him. He was staying with plays more and providing impact as a traditional WR instead of strictly a gadget guy.

Skyy Moore is a great problem to have. The coaches probably want to involve Juju, Hardman and MVS in the game plan and ease Skyy into the offense, but that’s NOT going to happen. Mark my words, Skyy Moore will play early and often. By mid season he will be Pats favorite WR and will get a lot of targets. I can literally see one of the WRs requesting a trade at the deadline because Skyy is going to get a lot of action.

*Hot take* Veach trades Hardman for Robert Quinn or is part of a trade for another high end DE before camp breaks.

Juju is healthy and when he’s been healthy and paired with a healthy and effective QB, he’s been very productive and dependable. Big catch radius and trustworthy hands. His 1400 yard season wasn’t a fluke and his contract is all incentives based on playing time and catches. He has lots of motivation.

MVS is a deep threat and mid range experienced WR. I haven’t watched him
Much, but he may end up losing snaps in a crowded and talented WR room.

Justyn Ross is so intriguing. Like others have mentioned ad naseum…he was the best WR in the room of stacked WRs at Clemson and he has played after his surgery. His immediate issue last year was the foot that limited him and he looks very healthy out there from what I’ve been able to find. It’s possible that he’s the steal of UDFA.

Skyy
Juju
Hardman
MVS
Ross

Mahomes has thrived when he’s been given just 2 WRs that could provide impact. This group is 4 (maybe 5) deep and pairing them with Kelce is going to be fun to watch.

*Hot take* Veach trades Hardman for Robert Quinn or is part of a trade for another high end DE before camp breaks.


I can see why you have a boner for Robert Quinn (32) last year 18.5 sacks.

However you are wishful thinking just to get rid of Hardman. That they would trade the only WR that knows the play book and can and is going to start running Tyreek Hills routes. Just because we got a bunch of Hardman haters don't mean he is going get traded. Blanch can figure out a trade but I guarantee not Hardman and if Skyy is that much better than Hardman before trade deadline , Hardman want's other ring so he would be foolish ask for a trade. Hardman is a weapon we need him out the gates especially and I think Mahomes is going go to him more just because of familiarity and likes to throw it deep. He is a deep threat and a threat any time he touches the ball to take it to the house. Without Tyreek taking all the balls thrown to him this is Hardmans big opportunity to shine. He either will or he will blow it. I know Skyy will be in the mix and they won't be able to keep him off the field but I think Marquez will be sitting more than the other three and yes Ross is intriguing. If he can take hits when tackled then he may very well see a lot of playing time but they may be more cautionary with him for a while.

Other than your *Hot Take* I agree with mostly everything I can't argue nothing else but that trade would be whack :whackit:

Yeah, I just can't see them moving on from Hardman.

Like I said, the WR room is presently 4 guys then wild-cards and/or a bag of dicks, depending on how generous you're feeling.

You move Hardman out of here and you're going to struggle to run 11 personnel as often as you'd if for no other reason than stamina.

I think people forget that one of the most dangerous things Hill brought to the table was that he simply never got tired. He could go out there and run 90% of the snaps at full tilt. And he could run all over the formation. Or run a deep route then another deep route then ANOTHER deep route.

Mere mortals can't do that. They will absolutely need Hardman here so they can run a viable 4 man rotation for their 3 'starters' in 11 personnel groups.

Yeah, I'm not a buyer on the trade for Quinn stuff either but I guess you never know.

I'd think the Bears want some type of pass rush. Trevis Gipson started to come on last year and they picked up Al-Quadin Muhammad as a nice rotational player in the offseason, but they have nobody else. They can't roll into the season with only those two as having any sort of proven production or they'll be in worse shape than the Chiefs are.

There might be some guys the Chiefs can pry away from other clubs but I sincerely doubt that Quinn is one of them.

As for trading Hardman, yeah, I could see it happening. Not that it will or should.

I'd honestly be okay with trading Hardman, hell I'd welcome it.

There isn't a chance in hell he's getting a second contract here. Might as well get something out of the investment while the market is sizzling hot for WRs.

Give up our biggest deep threat and the only returning WR that knows the play book? **** that. We are going rely a lot on Hardman especially first quarter of the season when the others are getting use to the new team and timing with Mahomes. I ****ing don't get the hate for him wasn't his fault for being drafted at that slot. He has improved a lot each year and can break 1000 yards this year. Give up a proven weapon because you hate him for being drafted higher than he should have. He has to prove his worth to the Chiefs to get a second contract so he sure is going work hard to get that or they will let him walk at the end of the season. If we win a Super Bowl and he catches a touchdown that wins the game are you still going hate him? He has made clutch plays but 85% of balls were thrown to Tyreek or Kelce kinda hard make an impact if not getting the ball. Mahome even said he wants to spread ball around instead of targeting two guys.

Hardman is going have stellar season and people will eat crow.

Trade Hardman what do we get in return because you are going give up a void at WR and what if Ross plays and gets hurt Skyy will be better than Hardman but until then Hardman has a place on the field zooming down field to catch deep balls or his jet sweep. He can go the distance in a flash how is that going be replaced by trading him? Had Mahomes thrown him the ball instead of to Tyreek we could have been SB winners. Tyreek dropped the ball 13 times second most in the NFL and several tipped for an interception and in overtime he couldn't keep the bigger defenders from intercepting the ball. That's not what i want to see in the "best" WR or most paid WR.

From what I've seen Hardman cut mistakes drastically last year but haters are going to hate.

Hardman’s ability to stretch the field horizontally will be valuable to KC. Hill could stretch it both directions by himself, really.

But with Valdes-Scantling and Hardman, KC can present a receiving group that forces defenses to stay deep while also creating horizontal space.

I'm really glad some of you guys are not in charge.

Why even talk of trading Hardman? That is not an issue at all. To me, the real issue is solidifying the "D" with a vet or two. Hardman isn't going anywhere and that would be stupid to get rid of him this season. SMH! Look to the "D" needs currently and hope for some June 1st cuts by other teams. We need to continue to solidify the defense this off season. A strong defense will lessen the need for more (no pun intended) WR needs.

I agree that Mecole could be moved. His numbers are pedestrian, other football players are fully capable of learning our playbook, and if we can sell a team on his speed then kudos to them for taking a flier because we have zero intention of signing him after this year.

MVS is the exact same player as Mecole, but he's 6'4 and has more individual success in the league. Moving on from Mecole would continue our trend of getting bigger and more physical on both sides of the ball.

For Robert Quinn? Awesome, let's do it! I'm not sure how feasible that is, but I'd be happier with that trade and then adding one of the big-name FA WRs that bring more upside instead of rolling with what we have.

The only way I could see them moving Hardman is in a trade for a younger starting quality DE. I think Mecole is an ascending player, but this is most likely his last year here and if we can get value from him, I’d do it. Maybe Hardman and a pick for Rashaan Gary, or Josh Allen.

I’d give it a 30% chance of happening. Max. But it’s fun to think about.

No disagreements on that.

If they don’t think they will sign him to a new deal, then his value will never be higher and I think I’d trust Mahomes to make hay with Skyy, MVS, Juju and Ross…while I think DE is a big problem and it could prove to be a fatal flaw of ours. Something that prevents us from beating the other contenders in the AFC and maybe even effect games in our own division by giving Russ, Mascara and Herbert too much time in the pocket.

I think Hardman has some value we could use to get a net gain.

Hardman is more valuable to us THIS year than trading him for a DE because Hardman is valuable to this team as the most experienced in this offense and this proposal isn't even in the thought of Bloomsburg Vineyards. Get it out of your head BossChief it's not happening and shouldn't happen. Who would replace him? Sure just start Skyy I'm sure he is capable of it I know he is going be a stellar WR but then we just lost valuable depth at the possession we run a lot of deep routes and we cannot afford to lose a WR for a DT/DE. This is Hardmans shining moment if he can't be anything by the trade deadline then I'd consider trading him but he gives us a chance to help win us a GOD DAMN SUPER BOWL, because he is a threat any time he gets the ball to go the distance. Do you understand that? We may have a rotation to get Skyy and keep guys fresh so that fourth quarter we are still going full throttle with deep routes and that make DBs get tired keeping up. This maybe Hardmans contract year but Byron Vestkeely is probably wanting to evaluate his progression to decide if he wants to bring him back or not. It's 50/50 on if he comes back next year. I can see him leaving and finding a team that appreciates him.

This is your pipe dream, and won't happen. Why do you hate on Hardman? He may have been drafted too high but all he has done is do what the coaches asked of him and has improved every year. So this year I think he is going break 1000 yards because he will get more targets I'm sorry that is going hurt your feelings a player you don't like has success because we need him to have success. We need his speed and knowledge of the plays so he can help the other WRs with the playbook. You want a complete new WR line up without any experience in Andy Reid offense yeah that's smart.

Dude. You have no idea what you're talking about.

MVS is the same player as Mecole? They have no attributes in common at all except for speed. That's it. Nothing else in common whatsoever.

Just stop.

They're both 3rd option speed guys that specialize in running deep routes to stretch the defense. Stat lines over the years are nearly identical. No?

They’re both speed guys but are still different players. Valses-Scantling isn’t as quick or shifty as Hardman. They’re not going to use him on all the horizontal stuff, the end arounds, the shallow crosses, etc. that Hardman does (that Hill used to do).

Valses-Scantling is going to be an intermediate and vertical route runner. Hardman is going to be more of a short route runner.

Ok, that's a fair assessment and truth be told I don't really have anything against Hardman, I just haven't seen much out of him. I also wonder if Moore might end up being better at "all the horizontal stuff, the end arounds, the shallow crosses, etc. that Hardman does (that Hill used to do)" making Hardman expendable before next season.

They're not similar players at all.

Hardman has more twitch and immediate burst than MVS, who's more of a build up guy. MVS is physical at the catch point but for a guy with his speed isn't a very good YAC guy.

Those underneath routes and bubble screens aren't going to be nearly as effective with MVS as they are with Hardman.

And for all the 'well he needs gimmicks to get yards' stuff - who gives a shit? Between the 20s, yards are yards. And those 'gimmicks' present something else opposing DCs have to think about and prepare for. Moreover, Hardman is a guy who's extremely dangerous on drag routes and even seam routes when give the opportunity.

Duncan said it well - they're both deep threats, but they're complementary deep threats. They don't get there in the same way. Being a 'deep threat' WR isn't just about being a guy that can run a 9 route; that's just way too basic.

And again, Hardman's value is as much about depth as anything. This team doesn't have the bodies it needs to run a full playbook without Hardman. Any drive that isn't over in 5 snaps will require you to basically scrap your 11 personnel by the time you get to the other half of the field because you don't have the WR rotation you need to keep sending them.

I think folks REALLY underestimate the physical toll that simply running routes takes on guys who aren't Tyreek Hill. It's goddamn exhausting. And if it isn't, then you're running at 85-90% and are less effective for it.

If you want to be able to have 3 guys you can send out there at top speed snap after snap after snap, you've gotta have 4 guys you can rotate. If you don't, you're going to struggle.

^ which is why Andy Reid always wants his WR to be versatile enough to run routes from anywhere. Because he uses them interchangeably and has them run the same route concepts from inside or outside, depending on the matchup and who he is trying to exploit.

Which is why rookie WR often take longer to acclimate.

Listening to Veach on Florio’s pod…

He made an interesting point when asked about the Tyreek trade. He said they had problems even before that when Sammy was gone bc he helped Tyreek and Kelce simply due to his presence, especially when he was “on”.

It’s pretty clear that our depth at WR was absolute dog shit. Demarcus Robinson scared nobody. He rarely beat 1v1 coverage. Pringle was solid but wasn’t a true field stretcher.

I think Juju can do a lot of the things Sammy did for us. He’s got that bigger athletic body to force missed tackles and still be effective. MVS is not a word beater but he does present a few threat that’s legitimate and that is always on defenders minds when a QB like Patrick is their opponent.

I hope Ross and Skyy take off so we don’t have to pay Juju or Hardman bc I really don’t want to spend about $20 million per on either of those guys. I’d much rather just draft another WR early next year

We won't.

Veach has laid his cards out pretty strongly here. This is going to be the gameplan for the foreseeable future at WR. Young talent and undervalued vets. Ideally ascending ones. If you can get them to sign for 2-3 years at a reasonable price point that allows you to lock in some possible upside, fine. But if they're wanting a 1 year deal so they can chase 20 million, you're not bringing 'em back.

I just don't see them making high dollar investments at WR for the foreseeable future. If it was something they were interested in, they'd have found a way to get it done with Tyreek.

Assuming Tyreek wasn't set on his big contract being state tax free and in the city he was building a house. Comparing WRs to Tyreek is just as nonsensical as comparing contracts. Don't think Vetch played any cards.. right compensation met right move. QB type of haul.. Let. Tyreek go get his, cash

To be fair, they did have a deal done with Tyreek until Jacksonville did stupid things.

That being said, I agree. Tyreek is a special dude and I think it would take a special dude for them to pay big for a receiver.

I think Hardman is probably going to have a breakout type year. He's certainly going to get plenty of opportunities to have one as the only WR that knows most/all of the playbook. And Andy is going to give him plenty of chances to prove himself, if I'm not mistaken.

Pivot:

Skyy Moore is going to be a starter before week 10. He might prove to be the best Chief from this class a decade from now. He's the WR KC will probably build the rest of the room around going forward.

How many yards does each WR get?

Mahomes is good for ~4,750 yrds & 40 TDS - Kelce's ~1,250 yrds & 10 TDs = ~3,500 yrds & 30 TDS available...


JuJu, 6'1 215 lbs = 925 yrds & 9 TDS

Hardman, 5'10 180 lbs= 775 yrds & 5 TDS

Moore,l 5'10 195 lbs = 700 yrds & 7 TDS

MVS, 6'4 205 lbs = 625 yrds & 4 TDS

Ross, 6'4 205 lbs = 425 yrds & 3 TDS


My biggest hope for this season though is that Moore & Ross become legit targets and develops into our future starters.

PFF has our WR room ranked 19th. Seems about right.

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Skyy Moore 1009 yards, 7 TDs
JuJu 850 yards, 6 TD
Hardman 660 yards, 2 TD
MVS 605 yards, 6 TD
Ross....not gonna work here

The same rankings have the Denver Broncos 10th, making them - like pretty much everything PFF does - worthless.

I think the WR room is fine, no need to overthink it at all. This is a CHIEFS transition, in my opinion, for the best. I am actually excited to see what "NEW" game plans Andy and Patrick have instore for us this season. I really think this is going to be better than we think. My desire is for the "NEW" defense to gel. We shall see. I think we will be fine! :thumb: