**** Official 2021-2022 NHL Thread ****
 

...okay, not really, but the expansion draft is tonight.

The best part of this is how the NHL is happy Las Vegas was good right away and want the same here..

While in the NFL Carolina and Jacksonville being good right away made them change the rules to make it way harder like yea **** that!

Aww, no Carey Price.

I know it would have been popular, but taking on that contract would have been so stupid.

Yeah, and until he's 38.

It would be interesting to know what goes on behind the scenes.... if the Kraken were considering it, I'm sure there are talks between teams that aren't supposed to happen, plus all of the UFA strategy, etc.

I think bergevi. Was going to be happy either , clreaing cap space while still having Allen or having price back .

https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl1999x.html


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The best player we could get in the 1999 Expansion Draft was Yannick Tremblay. The Seattle Kraken passed on Carey Price and Vladimir Tarasenko.</p>&mdash; Atlanta Thrashers (@NotThrashers) <a href="https://twitter.com/NotThrashers/status/1417971338589966340?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 21, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Clicked on that link just to see it...Yikes!

Kraken legit get an D- (borderline F) for that draft.

There were so many good players that they could've taken that would have sprinkled in some top-6 offense for them, but they didn't.

Defense isn't bad at all, but I suspect they'll make a trade or two and goaltending will be good for the start.

I hope Ron Francis is going to work on the offense within the next three weeks.

Yeah, they went super young and unproven outside of Giordano and Eberle.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: According to multiple reports, the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/STLBlues?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#STLBlues</a> have acquired Pavel Buchnevich from the Rangers for Sammy Blais and a 2nd round pick in 2022. <a href="https://t.co/wBw3ON5MNF">pic.twitter.com/wBw3ON5MNF</a></p>&mdash; 101 ESPN St. Louis (@101espn) <a href="https://twitter.com/101espn/status/1418662430876573696?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 23, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hoo boy...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="et" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Avs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Avs</a> Cale Makar 6 years, 9M AAV <a href="https://t.co/SrGUv4PXIl">https://t.co/SrGUv4PXIl</a></p>&mdash; Rick Sadowski (@RickS7) <a href="https://twitter.com/RickS7/status/1418946855568777216?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 24, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Now we just have to get Landy done.

And hope for another team friendly deal from McKinnon on his next deal

Well, it's certainly not going to be $6m/year moving forward. I could definitely see him being OK with $10m or so, though, which is definitely high but isn't really superstar money. The dude has said many times that he cares far more about winning than about the money.

That said, the Avs need to get it done in the next couple of years or his patience might start wearing thin.

Time to get that Makar jersey. PBJ ....and from that one site, might be here by opening night. LMAO

Apparent Landeskog's hang-up is years, Landeskog wants 7 and the Avalanche are offering five, but $$ being offered is in line.

Saw a reddit post, if only there was a number between 5 and 7....

Fleury traded to the Blackhawks... wonder if there was something between him and DeBoer, given the idiocy with splitting time in the playoffs and now trading him for almost nothing. Probably could have gotten more at the deadline from a team needing a playoff rental. :shrug:

Vegas desperately needs the cap space to resign some players (Nosek, Janmark, Martinez) so having Fleury was a luxury they couldn't afford. What is wild to me is that the reigning Vezina trophy winner is traded for absolutely nothing due to so many teams not being able to afford Fleury's 7 mill cap hit.

I think the NHL needs to seriously evaluate their cap system and make some changes to allow teams more flexibility. Something along the lines as 1 compliance buy-out per 2 seasons with no cap implications would be something maybe the NHL and NHLPA could agree on.

The mistake he made against the habs in game three was one of the worst in playoff history and we never recovered...i'm glad he's gone and we can possibly move forward with panda and also have cap room. Farewell Flower..it's been one hell of a ride.

Ah, thanks... should have looked at that.

Yeah, you would think salaries would adjust a bit due to issues like that, but teams can't help themselves when it comes to those huge deals.

Ovechkin signed for nearly $50 million and it's a bit strange that it could be considered a discount at $9.5/per, yet him and Backstrom now account for something like 22% of their cap hit.

Landy!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">HE&#39;S BACK! Gabriel Landeskog and the Avalanche have agreed to an 8-year deal with a $7 million AAV per <a href="https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@FriedgeHNIC</a></p>— DNVR Avalanche (@DNVR_Avalanche) <a href="https://twitter.com/DNVR_Avalanche/status/1420228177255800840?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 28, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I don't think Landeskog will age well, but the cap hit is reasonable.

Yeah, I'm gonna guess that'll seem high toward the end of it. But really, if the Avs haven't won a cup by then, this era is a failure regardless. I'm good with it.

I think through his age 32-33 season it'll be fine, after that it won't look as good. But they should have a cup by then, assuming they keep MacKinnon, Byram, etc. I expect Grubauer will be back as well.

I really want Saad in St. Louis to replace Schwartz.

Nice! PBJ

Would love to have Saad back, and Grubauer.

Well, I knew it was a lot to ask to get them ALL done, but I'm bummed that Grubi is gone.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Done deal, six years, $5.9 M AAV for Grubauer to the Seattle Kraken <a href="https://t.co/aD7n2jqLt6">https://t.co/aD7n2jqLt6</a></p>&mdash; Pierre LeBrun (@PierreVLeBrun) <a href="https://twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/1420442785468006400?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 28, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That said, 6x6 is STEEP in my opinion. That's a lot for the guy to live up to.

Granted, Binnington won all 16 games in the Blues SC run, but that's what Binnington got paid and I think it's market value for above average goalies.

Yeah, puts him in the top 10.

Well, I hear Fleury doesn't want to play in Chicago....

It's not FAR off, but in comparison, Grubi ended up with a .900 average in our series against Vegas and looked god awful in the last two games. I'm just not sure I trust him to be THE GUY yet.

That said, I have a feeling we're gonna miss him.

I think it's going to take time for the Avs to find a capable replacement. No one who they'll bring in will be more than a tandem goalie currently who has performed well(Kuemper). I think losing him hurts more now than losing Landeskog would.

Flip-side is they have enough cap to bring Saad back.

I am disappoint.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hearing the Coyotes are trading Darcy Kuemper to Colorado for a first-rounder pick and defenseman Conor Timmins.</p>— Craig Morgan (@CraigSMorgan) <a href="https://twitter.com/CraigSMorgan/status/1420528874144747523?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 28, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hmm....

I thought Timmins did some good things in the playoffs, but completely see why he's expendable.

Wonder what else Sakic is thinking in terms of goalie.

Saad to the Blues. :(

5 years, $4.5 per.

Starting to feel like the salary cap issues from COVID aren't going to be kind to us. Kind of hard to keep the gang together when there's not any extra money to go around.

He'll be solid for the Blues, though. I wish we could have locked him up.

Much needed Top 6 LW.

If they actually get something of value when trading Tarasenko, and/or can resign Bozak - I think they'll be OK.

So far Buchnevich > Hoffman and Saad > Schwartz.

Another good move.

Avs re-sign F Tyson Jost to a two-year, $4mil contract with an AAV of $2mil

https://www.denverpost.com/2021/07/3...ign-two-years/

Evander Kane’s pregnant wife says NHL star tanked games for gambling profit

“How does the NHL let a compulsive gambling addict still play when he’s obviously throwing games to win money?” she wrote. “Hmm maybe someone needs to address this.”

In another, the wife of the forward wrote, “Can someone ask (Commissioner) Gary Bettman how they let a player gamble on his own games? Bet and win with bookies on his own games?”

https://nypost.com/2021/08/01/evande...g-profit-wife/

Trouble in paradise:

https://nypost.com/wp-content/upload...trip=all&w=640

Pretty hot:
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/08...7823696031.jpg

Bring him in for a look?


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This sucks, love the location across from the Cardinals' stadium and within a nice entertainment district. Tempe might be cool though.

https://arizonasports.com/story/2781...after-2021-22/

Lightning don't seem thrilled to be back at work, from what I've watched so far.

Interested to see how well ESPN+ works (even though the Avalanche are on TNT tomorrow night)... haven't used it since they started charging for it, and it sucked pretty bad back then (MNF looked far better last night though).

Leafs/Canadiens already far better than last night's hockey.

And why the hell would the NHL schedule Rangers/Caps for their first game on TNT? I mean, sure, ratings and all.... I'm sure nothing will go wrong. LMAO

Seattle gave us a big fight last night but we pulled through..still hoping my knights trade for Eichel.

I really hate that they always open up with 8pm games for the Avs.

Now get off my lawn.

:skip:

I like the extra hour for the first couple weeks of the season and then at the end of the season... the middle 6 months where everyone else is on standard time is annoying. LMAO

Jack Johnson, heh.

I hope someone had that as a prop bet.

This is how I imagined the Chiefs starting the season. :sulk:

On pace for 32 shots to 4 in the first period. LMAO

Blues are 3-0!!!!!!!

Always good to see the Knights lose.

Meanwhile in Arizona...

https://i.redd.it/lxhbjso8dbu71.jpg

I feel like the Avs early season has some similarities to the Chiefs early season. Lots of good teams, and their injuries/COVID/suspensions haven't helped.

Hopefully they can kick it into gear when November rolls around and the schedule softens up.

Yeah, nice strong start for all of one game, but of course the Blackhawks are kind of a mess. It would be nice to get back to full strength to get a feel for how Kuemper is really doing, since the defense is giving up a lot of great chances right now.

They just got outworked the other day, but also nice to see some good play from the bottom offensive lines.

Enjoying ESPN+ so far, too... no issues and I've read a couple of Avalanche games have been on ESPN+ and not blacked out locally.

I did like seeing the period markers on nhl.tv when I'm behind in a game, but I'll trade that for being able to skip commercials on ESPN+ (and of course the price tag).

My friend was watching games on nhl66.ir the other day stream seemed great and free. Most Habs games are blacked out here so I may start using it when they become watchable. NFL66.ir for football games

So, how bout them BlackHawks?

Uh yeah, WTF happened?

:shake:

What a depressing situation. It's hard to understand how that can even happen without anyone speaking up.

I expected the executives to come out looking scummy as ****, but kind of surprised at the amount of players coming off like total jackasses here. Like this shit is just normal and Bowman is losing his job to cancel culture.

Hi Avs fans.. enjoy the Knights game as much as i did? :D how did yall let us beat yall with our reserves in your own building and make it five wins in a row?? Then after a big win there my boys go to Dallas the next day and pull off another upset in overtime after being one minute from defeat and emptying the net...after losing four starters to injury and then losing four games in a row things were looking a little dicey..now we're rolling and Jacky Eichel looks like he's coming to town..LIFE IS GOOD in the knighthood :thumb:

This is like a Chargers fan talking smack as if it's not obvious the Chiefs are struggling. Congrats on your 3-4 record I guess.

But the difference is we are currently missing Stone, Pacthy, Tuch and Martinez..that's pretty much most of our main goalscorers so what excuse do yall have to get beat again? I thought yall wanted revenge for the whooping yall got in the playoffs? :D Smh maybe that series loss had a bigger impact on the players than we thought.....

I guess you also think there's a literal bulletin board in locker rooms where players stand in front of it and get super motivated before games while reading stuff from all the haters... LMAO

By the time you're in the NHL, you've skated thousands of times and have played in hundreds of games, while losing a decent number of them.... they have former teammates (NHL or not), players they grew up with on other teams, offseason workout buddies.

There's no "marking down this late-October game 4 months later on the calendar". ROFLLMAO

I mean, i know you're just a dumbass troll, but JFC I hope all of your hot takes are an act. LMAO

Quennenville resigned.

Joel Quenneville out as Panthers coach

Lol so your avs rivalry with detriot was not revenge games?? Smh When we got robbed against the sharks that became a huge rivalry and we've kicked their asses ever since..you lot were used to having everything your own way last season until we punched you firmly on the mouth in game 3 and 4 and delivered a brutal KO blow in your own building in game 5...yall were a punching bag in game 6 and you haven't recovered since. You have the talent to make another run no doubt but losing to our reserve guys tells me yall ain't got that some confidence anymore and it's showing.

Probably shouldn't have had the choice.

John Tortorella is rumored to replace him

The Yotes have a pretty tough October schedule, but still pretty impressive just how badly they've tanked. Sky Harbor is also complaining about the proposed Tempe arena and proximity to the airport.

Good to see the Avalanche getting back on track a little, at least through two periods.

Yay. Entertaining game.

Nice to see the Avs looks like the Avs for once.

I mean, I wouldn't consider him losing his job for not handling what he thought was sexual harassment (which turned out to be sexual assault) as apart of a cancel culture, especially considering the Blackhawks inaction also not only led to at least 2 players being victimized, but additional people being victims AFTER Aldrich left (leading to him being convicted of sexual assault and registering as a sex offender).

This isn't Gruden, who wrote some really, terrible things that aren't illegal but are just shit things to write in general. This is multiple people prioritizing winning over the well-being of others.

Cheveldayoff should resign as well.

Time for Wild hockey!

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I know. I was saying that's the attitude of certain players.

Jack Eichel to Vegas for a 1st a 3rd Peyton Krebs and Alex Tuch

Guess he'll get that new disk he's always wanted? :shrug:

YEP...BEEN CELEBRATING TODAY :D ..LET'S FREAKING GO!!..AVS fans!!..i know it's a tough one to take but keep your heads up yall ROFL

Yeah,sounds like its about 3-4 months recovery time

Crazy game in Denver, 5-5 with the Sens and still 10 minutes left.