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Sassy Squatch 05-13-2024 12:19 PM

Antoine Winfield Jr. Gets Paid
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bucs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bucs</a> and All-Pro safety Antoine Winfield Jr. have agreed to a 4-year, $84M extension, making him the highest paid defensive back in NFL history, per <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AdamSchefter</a>. Massive payday for one of the young stars in the NFL. <a href="https://t.co/JYWISLxUV1">pic.twitter.com/JYWISLxUV1</a></p>&mdash; Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1790081285546795398?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 13, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Sassy Squatch 05-13-2024 12:21 PM

Bit surprised he got that much more over Bates III.

Direckshun 05-13-2024 12:23 PM

Man, $21m/year for a safety.

Maybe I'm drunk on Dave Merritt, but I can hardly see how that's justfiable.

Perhaps we have Bucs fans on the board who argue this is justifiable.

siberian khatru 05-13-2024 12:28 PM

Ari just HAD to use that pic

SHOWTIME 05-13-2024 12:34 PM

Highly overrated

Wisconsin_Chief 05-13-2024 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 17517923)
Man, $21m/year for a safety.

Maybe I'm drunk on Dave Merritt, but I can hardly see how that's justfiable.

Perhaps we have Bucs fans on the board who argue this is justifiable.

I wouldn't pay prime Eric Berry 21 million a year in the modern cap world, so would you consider Winfield as good or better than him? Either way, it's a no for me. Tough call, but salaries at all positions are just going to keep increasing with all the new TV money. You'll probably see this deal left in the dust by next offseason.

Sassy Squatch 05-13-2024 12:39 PM

The salaries constantly ballooning like this year to year all but kills any possibility of players signing early. The trade off just isn't worth it.

Megatron96 05-13-2024 12:41 PM

Wow. Haven't watched that much of Winfield, but Licht doesn't seem to overpay very often, so I guess this was the best deal he could come up with?

ThrobProng 05-13-2024 12:43 PM

Luckily, KC can just keep drafting day 3 safeties and save a shit ton of cap space.

tredadda 05-13-2024 12:47 PM

Because we all live in a world where cap space is a thing I wonder what defensive position suffers due to high DT and now possibly S contracts. On offense it looks like RBs and TE's that suffer for the sake of QBs and WRs.

Megatron96 05-13-2024 12:51 PM

I mean, all that's left is LB and nickel CB. Though, imo this contract is going to be a bit of an outlier. Just not that many really great S out there. Most of the $$$ is going to CBs, not safeties.

lawrenceRaider 05-13-2024 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17517952)
Because we all live in a world where cap space is a thing I wonder what defensive position suffers due to high DT and now possibly S contracts. On offense it looks like RBs and TE's that suffer for the sake of QBs and WRs.

LBs unless they are edge/pass rushers.

Rain Man 05-13-2024 02:11 PM

Getting the highest DB pay is an impressive accomplishment when you're roughly the 75th best DB in the league.

O.city 05-13-2024 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17517940)
The salaries constantly ballooning like this year to year all but kills any possibility of players signing early. The trade off just isn't worth it.

Yeah, I think this is the new NFL. Especially for elite players.

Creed will sign when the Chiefs make him the highest paid C in football. I don't know about Bolton.

Sassy Squatch 05-13-2024 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17518044)
Yeah, I think this is the new NFL. Especially for elite players.

Creed will sign when the Chiefs make him the highest paid C in football. I don't know about Bolton.

If Williams and Lawrence had played through their 5th year options and signed this offseason they probably break 30 million AAV.

notorious 05-13-2024 02:26 PM

For a safety? ROFL

Garcia Bronco 05-13-2024 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17517952)
Because we all live in a world where cap space is a thing I wonder what defensive position suffers due to high DT and now possibly S contracts. On offense it looks like RBs and TE's that suffer for the sake of QBs and WRs.

The cost of safeties is dropping. The Fangio cover 6 is kind of making them expendable.

irafreak 05-13-2024 02:42 PM

It may make some high end players wait as long as possible but the average player needs to sign when they have an offer. Nothing is guaranteed. Plus there's only so much money to go around.

Basileus777 05-13-2024 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco (Post 17518052)
The cost of safeties is dropping. The Fangio cover 6 is kind of making them expendable.

That's not the type of defense Bowles runs. And I think we'll see more teams move away from it as it's an old trend at this point.

notorious 05-13-2024 02:52 PM

26/year for an old wide receiver.

21/year for safety.

Tampa better thank god they were gifted a Superbowl season. They won't be back anytime soon.

T-post Tom 05-13-2024 03:31 PM

WTF Jason Licht? Drunk or nude pics with Tanner's waitress? Both?

https://media0.giphy.com/media/GQtm7...giphy.gif&ct=g

ThaVirus 05-13-2024 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 17517929)
Ari just HAD to use that pic

He’s really good but that moment will forever and always be his greatest claim to fame

Pasta Little Brioni 05-13-2024 06:30 PM

Stupid

Jewish Rabbi 05-13-2024 06:35 PM

Is this dude even good?

IowaHawkeyeChief 05-13-2024 07:12 PM

I thank God daily for the salary cap. Veach and team manage it and draft about as good as anyone could hope for and it make us really hard to catch.

Couch-Potato 05-13-2024 07:24 PM

I just don't feel Safety is worth that kind of money in today's NFL, but I'm probably wrong.

If we wouldn't pay Sneed that, I can't understand paying someone else.

Megatron96 05-13-2024 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 17518353)
Is this dude even good?



Ranked no.1 by both PFN and PFF, for what that's worth. Also bearing in mind that there just aren't that many truly great safeties in the league right now. If I posted the top-10 list from PFN I doubt most people would recognize more than 3-4 names.


Still, their GM isn't really known for overpaying players (doesn't even do signing bonuses apparently) so I doubt it's a big overpay.

Jewish Rabbi 05-13-2024 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17518418)
Ranked no.1 by both PFN and PFF, for what that's worth. Also bearing in mind that there just aren't that many truly great safeties in the league right now. If I posted the top-10 list from PFN I doubt most people would recognize more than 3-4 names.


Still, their GM isn't really known for overpaying players (doesn't even do signing bonuses apparently) so I doubt it's a big overpay.

He doesn’t play for the Chiefs so he sucks

kccrow 05-14-2024 01:02 PM

Definitely one of the top 3 safeties in the NFL and played like the best last season. He's worth some coin, no doubt. I don't necessarily agree with spending top dollar on a safety but I can't blame a team with the space keeping a playmaker like him.

Rain Man 05-14-2024 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17518391)
I thank God daily for the salary cap. Veach and team manage it and draft about as good as anyone could hope for and it make us really hard to catch.

Yeah, but if we didn't have the salary cap we would be keeping all of our stars.

Either way, we win.

O.city 05-14-2024 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17519028)
Definitely one of the top 3 safeties in the NFL and played like the best last season. He's worth some coin, no doubt. I don't necessarily agree with spending top dollar on a safety but I can't blame a team with the space keeping a playmaker like him.

There are a few positions on the football field in the NFL where I'm not sure the difference in an elite player and a good one is worth the difference in pay.

Safety seems like one of them.

Now on a play by play basis, yes always take the elite guy etc....but on the whole over the season, is the salary here worth it when you could get.....a Justin Reid level S for alot cheaper?

kccrow 05-14-2024 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17519057)
There are a few positions on the football field in the NFL where I'm not sure the difference in an elite player and a good one is worth the difference in pay.

Safety seems like one of them.

Now on a play by play basis, yes always take the elite guy etc....but on the whole over the season, is the salary here worth it when you could get.....a Justin Reid level S for alot cheaper?

I agree. I mean, you're banking on Winfield playing like he did last year repeatedly to get value out of that contract. He had a legit case for DPOY. That said, I find it doubtful.


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