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wazu 04-22-2024 12:30 PM

Broncos trade for QB Zach Wilson
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">🚨 🚨 🚨 <br><br>Former <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Jets?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Jets</a> starting QB and No. 2 pick Zach Wilson is on the move. Sources say he’s being traded to the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Broncos?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Broncos</a>, hoping for a fresh start. <br><br>The deal includes a late-round pick swap (6th for a 7th) and NYJ will pay some of Wilson’s roughly $5.5M salary. <a href="https://t.co/7Y1KShZ3sg">pic.twitter.com/7Y1KShZ3sg</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1782476288776663309?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 22, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Pablo 04-22-2024 12:31 PM

Hahahahahahahaha

big nasty kcnut 04-22-2024 12:31 PM

Lol wow

New World Order 04-22-2024 12:32 PM

LOOOOOL

Jerm 04-22-2024 12:32 PM

Bwahahahahaha hilarious...

Mile High Mania 04-22-2024 12:32 PM

Ha. This writing was on the wall… not shocked. If it’s a swap of late picks, no big deal. It’s certainly not answering the QB need, but it’s depth.

wazu 04-22-2024 12:33 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Denver Broncos have been discussing this trade for Zach Wilson for weeks. After exploring the veteran free agent quarterback market, there is belief in the Denver building Zach Wilson still has tons on talent and potential.</p>&mdash; Dianna Russini (@DMRussini) <a href="https://twitter.com/DMRussini/status/1782477487768777060?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 22, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

smithandrew051 04-22-2024 12:33 PM

Remember when the Chiefs couldn’t figure out QB and kept taking on these types of guys?

Jerm 04-22-2024 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17489415)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Denver Broncos have been discussing this trade for Zach Wilson for weeks. After exploring the veteran free agent quarterback market, there is belief in the Denver building Zach Wilson still has tons on talent and potential.</p>&mdash; Dianna Russini (@DMRussini) <a href="https://twitter.com/DMRussini/status/1782477487768777060?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 22, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The retrospectives on how disastrous the Sean Payton era in Denver will end up being will be tremendous...

ToxSocks 04-22-2024 12:34 PM

Instantly the best Qb they have.

MMXcalibur 04-22-2024 12:35 PM

Zach Wilson did his best vs KC last season.

WE'RE DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED

ChiTown 04-22-2024 12:35 PM

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KC_Lee 04-22-2024 12:36 PM

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TomBarndtsTwin 04-22-2024 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17489415)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Denver Broncos have been discussing this trade for Zach Wilson for weeks. After exploring the veteran free agent quarterback market, there is belief in the Denver building Zach Wilson still has tons on talent and potential.</p>&mdash; Dianna Russini (@DMRussini) <a href="https://twitter.com/DMRussini/status/1782477487768777060?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 22, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Well, Zach Wilson has a LOT of talent.

Soon enough we'll be able to answer the question of who made who.

Payton responsible for Brees or Brees responsible for Payton's sucess.

HCSP putting his QB legacy on the line here . . . . .

ThyKingdomCome15 04-22-2024 12:37 PM

Woof, tough times in Denver. LMAO

None the less he was traded for next to nothing. The Jets just wanted him gone.

FloridaMan88 04-22-2024 12:37 PM

Shitty new uniforms and Zach Wilson all in one day??

https://media.tenor.com/A0mi4oTXeAwA...ay-broncos.gif

Graystoke 04-22-2024 12:38 PM

For Knowmo

:):):):)

Spott 04-22-2024 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17489415)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Denver Broncos have been discussing this trade for Zach Wilson for weeks. After exploring the veteran free agent quarterback market, there is belief in the Denver building Zach Wilson still has tons on talent and potential.</p>&mdash; Dianna Russini (@DMRussini) <a href="https://twitter.com/DMRussini/status/1782477487768777060?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 22, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Lol. Tyler Palko was a better prospect than this clown.

Mile High Mania 04-22-2024 12:39 PM

Pick swap… 207 for 256. The very least, it’s a depth move and the cost is nothing. No big deal here.

FloridaMan88 04-22-2024 12:43 PM

:)
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GLyjGtYb...pg&name=medium

Fish 04-22-2024 12:43 PM

Ha ha, throw some more money at the QB position, you morons.

Rainbarrel 04-22-2024 12:43 PM

I 've heard when you're over 65 & on the Medicare. They will pay to have a peckernanny come in twice a week. Hope is out there!

New World Order 04-22-2024 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 17489414)
Ha. This writing was on the wall… not shocked. If it’s a swap of late picks, no big deal. It’s certainly not answering the QB need, but it’s depth.

I'm not so sure he's depth

POND_OF_RED 04-22-2024 12:44 PM

Who’s the next Wilson in line after this one fails?!
https://whateverhappenedtox.com/wp-c...n-1024x580.jpg

JohnnyHammersticks 04-22-2024 12:44 PM

Jarrett Stidham and Zach Wilson! How exciting, what an incredible battle this will be for the starting job! Two alphas with strong NFL resumes duking it out to see who comes out on top! Riveting!!

https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2...c0j6/giphy.gif

Dunerdr 04-22-2024 12:44 PM

We are ****ed! Sean Payton did it with Drew Brees!

Mecca 04-22-2024 12:45 PM

I wonder if they are acknowledging they won't be able to get a QB they want in the draft.

wazu 04-22-2024 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 17489433)
Pick swap… 207 for 256. The very least, it’s a depth move and the cost is nothing. No big deal here.

I don't think anybody believes the acquisition cost was high. What you now have to worry about is Sean Payton thinking he can "fix" the former #2 overall pick.

TomBarndtsTwin 04-22-2024 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 17489433)
Pick swap… 207 for 256. The very least, it’s a depth move and the cost is nothing. No big deal here.

If you're trading for Zach Wilson and taking on a chunk of his contract for nothing more than depth, it's a shitty move. He's not the guy you want to pull off the bench when your starter is struggling or gets injured.

Now, if Broncos are trading for him because he has some talent (he was the #2 pick for a reason) and Payton thinks he can mine that out of him, well that make sense.

But THAT very much means Payton is putting his QB legacy on the line here, since people still question whether he was really responsible for HOFer Brees.

RunKC 04-22-2024 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17489447)
I wonder if they are acknowledging they won't be able to get a QB they want in the draft.

Yeah I think this is waiving the white flag.

RealSNR 04-22-2024 12:50 PM

Is this the one who loves him some MILFs? Or the one who got mono? Or is that the same dude?

If they are the same dude, why didn't they just keep Swag Kelly?

redfan 04-22-2024 12:52 PM

Did they just get the better Wilson QB? Probably.

TomBarndtsTwin 04-22-2024 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17489442)
I'm not so sure he's depth

This.

'Depth' makes no sense if you're trading for Zach Wilson.

wazu 04-22-2024 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redfan (Post 17489462)
Did they just get the better Wilson QB? Probably.

Plus they save fans some money on jerseys. Just give him #3 and call it good.

Mile High Mania 04-22-2024 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 17489454)
If you're trading for Zach Wilson and taking on a chunk of his contract for nothing more than depth, it's a shitty move. He's not the guy you want to pull off the bench when your starter is struggling or gets injured.

Now, if Broncos are trading for him because he has some talent (he was the #2 pick for a reason) and Payton thinks he can mine that out of him, well that make sense.

But THAT very much means Payton is putting his QB legacy on the line here, since people still question whether he was really responsible for HOFer Brees.

I haven’t seen the details on what they are paying on the contract… can’t wait for Perna’s reaction video.

RealSNR 04-22-2024 12:57 PM

Question for Donk fans:

Do you want Elway back?

Say what you will about him, but his QB moves were never this atrocious, and if they were disasters, the moves were all low risk.

Mile High Mania 04-22-2024 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 17489463)
This.

'Depth' makes no sense if you're trading for Zach Wilson.

Well, they needed another QB and don’t lose a pick getting him. Depth is more realistic than turning him into a starter.

RealSNR 04-22-2024 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 17489473)
Well, they needed another QB and don’t lose a pick getting him. Depth is more realistic than turning him into a starter.

I remember when we had Matt Cassel and brought in Brady Quinn as "depth"

wazu 04-22-2024 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 17489473)
Well, they needed another QB and don’t lose a pick getting him. Depth is more realistic than turning him into a starter.

Would not be surprised at all if the plan is to make him the starter. If he works, then it's a brilliant turnaround Payton is a genius again. If it fails miserably the Broncos finish this tank job they seem to be working on and pick top 5 next year. With Zach Wilson I don't think there is a lot of middle ground.

MagicHef 04-22-2024 01:03 PM

Oh wow

ptlyon 04-22-2024 01:04 PM

Bonerz

DRM08 04-22-2024 01:08 PM

Another QB bust for the Jets. Ouch

PHOG 04-22-2024 01:08 PM

Oh my! LMAOLMAO

Womble 04-22-2024 01:09 PM

They can put back all their Wilson jerseys to full price now! Huge win.

alpha_omega 04-22-2024 01:19 PM

I'm sure someone has already said this, but unfortunately (I mean fortunately), he is now the best QB they have.

Megatron96 04-22-2024 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17489483)
Would not be surprised at all if the plan is to make him the starter. If he works, then it's a brilliant turnaround Payton is a genius again. If it fails miserably the Broncos finish this tank job they seem to be working on and pick top 5 next year. With Zach Wilson I don't think there is a lot of middle ground.



Either Stidham/Wilson will likely begin the season as the starter, while whoever they draft will take the season/most of the season to learn the ropes. Stidham/Wilson whoever ends up winning the 'starting' job, will be just a placeholder for whoever they end up drafting. I mean, based just on compensation and what they're paying Wilson, that seems fairly obvious.

Bowser 04-22-2024 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ModSocks (Post 17489420)
Instantly the best Qb they have.

...yet still

https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.44f70599...pid=ImgRaw&r=0

Wisconsin_Chief 04-22-2024 01:25 PM

The glory is just beautiful.

wazu 04-22-2024 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17489512)
Either Stidham/Wilson will likely begin the season as the starter, while whoever they draft will take the season/most of the season to learn the ropes. Stidham/Wilson whoever ends up winning the 'starting' job, will be just a placeholder for whoever they end up drafting. I mean, based just on compensation and what they're paying Wilson, that seems fairly obvious.

Doesn't seem that obvious to me. Zach Wilson is still a developmental prospect at best. If the Broncos believed they were going to come out of the draft with a QBOTF I doubt they would be making this move.

ThaVirus 04-22-2024 01:30 PM

This prooooooobably isn’t going to go anywhere but he does have talent. He was also dotting us tf up back in week 4.

I think I’d rather they didn’t make this move.

FloridaMan88 04-22-2024 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17489447)
I wonder if they are acknowledging they won't be able to get a QB they want in the draft.

When Bo Nix is your realistic “best case option”… that’s not a very good situation to be in.

All of those fluke wins they amassed last season by getting 4+ turnovers… coming back to haunt them now with their draft position… and with limited resources to move up.

neech 04-22-2024 01:44 PM

Zach Wilson is pure trash, I watched many games where I would be hoping he would improve but he's just trash I'm telling you.

BWillie 04-22-2024 01:50 PM

Rofl

Why would u trade anything for this turd

Megatron96 04-22-2024 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17489516)
Doesn't seem that obvious to me. Zach Wilson is still a developmental prospect at best. If the Broncos believed they were going to come out of the draft with a QBOTF I doubt they would be making this move.




So your contention is that somehow Sean Payton thinks that Zach Wilson is really the 2nd-coming of Drew Brees?


Sure, that sounds reasonable.


Sean Payton has always been a good if not great evaluator of offensive talent. I doubt he's watched Zach's tape and said to himself "yeah, this guy is really a HOFer!!!" I get that people want to hate on DEN. But Payton isn't Adam Gase or Nat Hackett.

crispystl 04-22-2024 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17489447)
I wonder if they are acknowledging they won't be able to get a QB they want in the draft.

I just assume they're throwing numbers at it but I shouldn't give them the benefit of the doubt at this point.

crispystl 04-22-2024 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neech (Post 17489536)
Zach Wilson is pure trash, I watched many games where I would be hoping he would improve but he's just trash I'm telling you.

The only time I've ever seen him look serviceable was when he played us last year. Which is odd because our defense was ****ing good.

WilliamTheIrish 04-22-2024 01:59 PM

Wilson is just the next in a long line of nobody/never will be QB’s for that franchise.

MagicHef 04-22-2024 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17489544)
Rofl

Why would u trade anything for this turd

Because the other options are Ben DiNucci and Jarrett Stidham.

wazu 04-22-2024 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17489545)
So your contention is that somehow Sean Payton thinks that Zach Wilson is really the 2nd-coming of Drew Brees?


Sure, that sounds reasonable.


Sean Payton has always been a good if not great evaluator of offensive talent. I doubt he's watched Zach's tape and said to himself "yeah, this guy is really a HOFer!!!" I get that people want to hate on DEN. But Payton isn't Adam Gase or Nat Hackett.

I don't know for sure. You could be right, but Payton has made some head-scratching decisions. If they feel, for example, that Penix is going to be a guy they get in the draft, and they have Stidham to be opening day starter, why invite the circus of a Zach Wilson trade? He has to at least believe there is talent there and some possibility that he can be the one to turn it all around. Or maybe they really do think Zach Wilson represents some kind of veteran depth. Feels like we're all kind of guessing.

Megatron96 04-22-2024 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17489555)
I don't know for sure. You could be right, but Payton has made some head-scratching decisions. If they feel, for example, that Penix is going to be a guy they get in the draft, and they have Stidham to be opening day starter, why invite the circus of a Zach Wilson trade? He has to at least believe there is talent there and some possibility that he can be the one to turn it all around. Or maybe they really do think Zach Wilson represents some kind of veteran depth. Feels like we're all kind of guessing.


meh. I can't remember a HC that didn't occasionally make a bad decision or two over the course of a long career. Andy drafted Skyy Moore. Shit happens.




Iirc, Wilson has the better arm of the two, and Stidham isn't mobile, is that right? Well, what does Payton like in his offenses? QBs with decent arms and some mobility. Also, iirc, Stidham is the better pocket passer.

If I remembered those things correctly, well, it looks to me that Wilson is a cheap roll of the dice that he might somehow take to Sean's offensive scheme and coaching and might beat out the rather pedestrian Stidham for the interim starting QB job. If not, he can still be there as QB3 in case someone gets injured. Or if the drafted QB doesn't work out.



I mean, I could be wrong as well. Just saying, based on the evidence, that's what it looks like to me, that's all.

FlaChief58 04-22-2024 02:19 PM

Great Value

Megatron96 04-22-2024 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlaChief58 (Post 17489576)
Great Value



Don't know about that. $5.5 million seems like a lot for Zach Wilson. But maybe he'll prove me wrong.

Cheater5 04-22-2024 02:24 PM

We’re Phukt

Bowser 04-22-2024 02:28 PM

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MagicHef 04-22-2024 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17489581)
Don't know about that. $5.5 million seems like a lot for Zach Wilson. But maybe he'll prove me wrong.

$2.7 million

staylor26 04-22-2024 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17489518)
This prooooooobably isn’t going to go anywhere but he does have talent. He was also dotting us tf up back in week 4.

I think I’d rather they didn’t make this move.

Would you rather them get a younger QB with more upside in the draft? I'll take my chances with Wilson.

RedinTexas 04-22-2024 02:32 PM

They're bringing Wilson in as a "veteran" QB that can help teach their new QB they're taking in the draft.

MagicHef 04-22-2024 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17489591)
Would you rather them get a younger QB with more upside in the draft? I'll take my chances with Wilson.

He's 6 months older than Bo Nix.

Mile High Mania 04-22-2024 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17489544)
Rofl

Why would u trade anything for this turd

They swapped a R6 for a R7 and take on $2.7M … not breaking the bank or giving up picks. Very low risk low expectations move. Depth play.

staylor26 04-22-2024 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 17489593)
He's 6 months older than Bo Nix.

Sure, but it's entirely possible that he's better than Wilson today anyways.

Chief Pagan 04-22-2024 02:40 PM

So does this mean the Jets are going to draft a QB?

I mean seriously, Wilson wasn't the answer, but I'm not seeing who is.

MagicHef 04-22-2024 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 17489601)
So does this mean the Jets are going to draft a QB?

I mean seriously, Wilson wasn't the answer, but I'm not seeing who is.

Maybe they think that Aaron Rodgers guy could do it.

Chief Pagan 04-22-2024 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 17489603)
Maybe they think that Aaron Rodgers guy could do it.

Over under on how many quarters of football that guy plays for them?

HemiEd 04-22-2024 02:44 PM

This, hahahahahaha

srvy 04-22-2024 02:53 PM

Attention Walmart shoppers there is a blue light special in sports. Absolute bottom dollar on QB's for the next hour.

Hog's Gone Fishin 04-22-2024 03:02 PM

Doesn't matter who they ever have at QB, they don't have Patrick Mahomes. We do , and that right there means another 10 years of AFCW title for us minimum

Rainbarrel 04-22-2024 03:04 PM

Fiddle around with Knowmo's new muse Zack, and find out

notorious 04-22-2024 03:05 PM

Wilson played out of his ****ing mind against us.

Makes sense.

Megatron96 04-22-2024 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 17489601)
So does this mean the Jets are going to draft a QB?

I mean seriously, Wilson wasn't the answer, but I'm not seeing who is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 17489603)
Maybe they think that Aaron Rodgers guy could do it.



Rodgers. But for maybe two more seasons? Not much more than that. So they have to seriously consider drafting an eventual replacement for Rodgers, right? Because it's basically right around the corner.

carcosa 04-22-2024 03:10 PM

Lotta MILFs in the Denver metro area, especially if you include Boulder.


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