If the Chiefs traded to 18-24, who would you want?
 

Just like the other thread. But I could actually see this happening, unlike top 10.

Amarius Mims, Troy Fautanu, or Brian Thomas Jr.

Yup.

That's Fautanu Country.

Newton would also be interesting in that range if he got there. Those would probably be the two guys who I'd be interested in making a move to get up to 18 for if they were available.

But I'm not giving up a 2 to do it and I'm not sure our 3 gets us up past about 25/26.

One of the LT's.

Although to be quite honest, once you get past the top 12 or so guys who I figure to be picked....I don't know that I'd really be interested in trading up.

This might be as useless a response as anything ever typed on this board.

It fits in with most of my other posts on here, so kinda par for the course.

Could Bowers fall to 18?

Don't the Bengals pick 17th or 18th?

They won't pass on him.

Could if Newton's there.

That's almost why I'm hoping Newton doesn't start to slide. I can't see Cincy letting him get past them.

Good point. Either one to the Bengals would suck donkey dick.

Tangent, but figure I'd throw it out here anyways: I'm genuinely curious to see if Burrow's wrist is shredded and if he has a fall from grace.

He's not some freak athlete, he's just smart and super accurate. If that accuracy drops off, it won't matter who he has out there.

Obviously you missed rfaulk's post showing Burrow holding a pitcher of milk or whatever the **** it was. That was forwarded as proff positive that his wrist is top notch.

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Has the Chiefs trading up to 19 to take Worthy as WR #4 off the board. I think I was just sick in my mouth

If they do that, it should be for a left tackle

Troy Fautanu and Tyler Guyton both on the board as well.

Edit: Holy shit Amarius Mims was there too. He has him going in the 2nd. WTF?

Well, that mock was terrible.

If KC traded to this range, it would need to be for either Fautanu or a player unexpectedly falling (Bowers, Odunze).

Worthy would be cringe-worthy.

I understand Mims in the 2nd to some extent, he's quite raw. That said, I don't see KC passing on Fautanu for a WR. It's illogical to pass on a LT prospect when they are struggling every year to find someone with the aptitude to fill it.

I'm getting really tired of every pontificating mouth breather out there thinking the Chiefs are going to sell the farm for an uber fast guy at receiver in this draft. That line of thought is born from the "Well you know, they traded Tyreek Hill away and haven't replaced him yet...." lack of effort take. Never mind that we've won back-to-back titles WITHOUT Tyreek or a reasonable facsimile on this team in two years, or anything.....

I'll be pissed if we move up to get Worthy with all those tackles still on the board AND give up our second rounder to do it. And I'm not against Worthy being on this team at all, but certainly not at that price.

IF we were to trade up that far, and I highly doubt it-
it would have to be because they liked a LT. Fautanu probably.

I think he's the last LT without significant questions there. I think Guyton or Morgan are possibilities, but I don't think you'd have to go that high to get them.

I don't think Mims would be on their radar; not enough experience. If he fell into the second maybe.

but the second is where I'd like to go WR.

Not only that but giving up our 2nd round pick to do it. **** that shit.

It would have to be LT as many have said I think Fautanu in the number one target. But if a target they grade as truly elite fell it would make sense too. Maybe they see BTJ that way or an odunze or something has a fall. This is a much more exciting and realistic exercise than the top 10 thread. With all things considered were "OK" at WR as it stands and a LT makes so much more sense.

What would it cost to move up into that range and do you see the chiefs doing it? Would we give up picks next year and this year? Or maybe just our 2nd rounder this year?

Mims and another year of DS would do the trick…but maybe just throwing the kid there next to Thuney would be smart to spend the cap $ elsewhere.

If they see Fautanu slipping into the mid-teens, I think it's a good time to strike for that.

Fautanu is in that range on the consensus Big Board on NFL Draft Network (22, actually), which could be partially skewed by him being thought as not tall/long enough to be a T before the combine. I get that.

But if gets past the Saints, it's awfully tempting to get in front of the Bengals, if possible, to take him.

It’ll be interesting to see how this plays out. Fautana is safer than Mims. Where will guyton be taken? I don’t recall any player being taken in the 1st round with less than 10 starts. Will Mims be the first? I’m still moving up to 25 for Mims if he’s there. I’m intrigued by his size, length and athletic ability. His 40 and broad jump are incredible for his size, crazy.

AMARIUS MIMS OT GEORGIA
NFL DRAFT PROFILE & SCOUTING REPORT

SUB-POSITION: RIGHT TACKLE
LAST UPDATED: 03/13/2024
DRAFT YEAR: 2024
40 TIME: 5.07 SECONDS (85%*)
AGE: 21.5 DOB: 10/14/2002
MEASURABLES:
0% 100%
HEIGHT: 6-8 (89%*) WEIGHT: 340 (96%*)
HANDS: 11 1/4 (94%*) ARM: 36 1/8 (92%*)
SPAN: 86 6/8 (100%*)
FORTY: 5.07 (C) (85%*)
10 YARD: 1.78 (C) (56%*)
VERTICAL: 25.5 (C) (20%*) BROAD: 111 (C) (89%*)

Mims

I love https://www.tankathon.com/nfl/mock_draft They seem to keep the mocks up-to-date.

Here is what they have currently...

How awesome would it be to have Fautanu end up being another McDuffie?

Very awesome. Especially if they moved in front of the Bengals to take him.

Costly, but imagine that war room video if he’s their guy, like McDuffie clearly was for Buffalo.

How high can we get trading that extra 3rd next year?

Next year's third from Indy would yield a move up to between 28-29 by the Rich Hill chart. But neither the Bills nor the Lions are going to be looking to make that deal, or probably any deal with the Chiefs. Why let us move up to get better this year when you are in your winning window, make the dynasty better and the reward is likely a mid to late third next year?

To answer the OP's question, only player I'm moving up for barring something insane like Bowers or Odunze falling is Brian Thomas Jr.

I would absolutely move into the late teens or early 20s for him...

That's the Titans pick, and will very likely be a top 75 pick.

I think the Chiefs can just as easily use their 2nd which shouldn't be much higher.

Never know. Sure would be interesting if he fell. I'm not so sure how much I would want to give up moving up for TE though. He is in Texas playing catch with Pat and a few other receivers so the interest is definitely there.

Would be happy to steal from Buffalo again and take Adonai Mitchell before they do.

They're taking Franklin.

What makes you say that?

Better served using next year's 3rd to move up to ~#51 in the 2nd.

Four visits with him in varying degrees, including a private workout, and has maintained a personal relationship with Joe Brady ever since Brady recruited him at LSU.

Interesting.

I would laugh so hard.


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How about our 1st and TEN 2025 3rd to MIA for #21?

Target is WR Brian Thomas Jr.

A future third isn’t enough.

You’d need to move 32 and 64 to get there on Hill chart.

I certainly wouldn’t move both of those
Picks for Brian Thomas Jr, not with the depth of this draft.

It would have to be for an OT (Fautanu, Mims), Brock Bowers if he slips, or an inexplicable slip by Odunze or Nabers.

Would anyone give up 32, 64, 2025R1, and 131 to move up for Odunze? I think that might be the package that would align for the Bears at 9. I'd be tempted.

No.

Not this guy. If I'm going up and giving up capital like that, it's for a QB, LT, or DE and we don't need a QB or DE so that tells you what I'd do.

So Crow, assuming you have the pick of the tackle litter minus Alt, who would it be? Fautanu still?

I’d do that for Joe Alt and probably only for Joe Alt. Nabers, probably, too.

Personally, I like Fautanu better than Fashanu though the latter gives you pause for serious consideration.

I think Fautanu is more athletic, has far better feet in pass pro, bigger and stronger hands, executes run blocks better, has more nasty to his game, etc. That said, Fashanu is younger and could grow into a better player. With a Super Bowl team, the question is whether to wait on growth or get the more complete prospect right now and maybe sacrifice a little down the road.

According to the draft chart, going from 32 to 19 is 285 points. Our 2nd next year is worth 270. A 2025 2nd + 2024 5th could do it.

I’d 100% trade up with the Rams if one of the tackles we like is there

I think Fuaga is also worth consideration. I just love the aggression he plays with. Latham too.

Future picks count at about 50% of this year's value. So our 2025 2nd is only really worth about 135 pts on the Johnson model.

I like him too but not as a LT. I don't think he has enough foot speed and athleticism

OK, so the bottom line is, what would it take to move up to 19 with the Rams for Fautanu? Is it worth it? Forfeit draft picks as well as future picks to get a LT? Good bye to WR's Mitchell, Worthy, Thomas Jr.? Just my .02 If we move that far up I guess an awesome LT on a rookie contract is worth it. This is a crazy situation for sure!:thumb: I am 100% in with what you guys think is the best plan of attack :thumb: