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Mecca 03-04-2024 11:34 AM

A specialist says Burrow's injury is career altering
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Joe Burrow <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bengals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bengals</a> injury update <br><br>Burrow suffered a season-ending right scapholunate ligament tear in his throwing wrist on November 16, 2023 against the Baltimore Ravens. <br><br>Initially it was speculated that it was a TFCC complex tear, but unfortunately it was worse, the dreaded… <a href="https://t.co/QlNIsTvtme">pic.twitter.com/QlNIsTvtme</a></p>&mdash; Jesse Morse, MD (@DrJesseMorse) <a href="https://twitter.com/DrJesseMorse/status/1764437248131354667?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 3, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I'm going to copy past all the text because it's a lot.

Joe Burrow #Bengals injury update

Burrow suffered a season-ending right scapholunate ligament tear in his throwing wrist on November 16, 2023 against the Baltimore Ravens.

Initially it was speculated that it was a TFCC complex tear, but unfortunately it was worse, the dreaded scapholunate ligament complex tear.

This ligament is very important for the stability of the wrist, and since this/most ligaments have a poor blood supply it needed to be repaired.

I asked an orthopedic hand surgeon colleague his thoughts on this injury as it pertains to Burrow and here was his response:

“It’s a bad injury to have, invariably always lead to some instability over time and arthritis at an earlier age.

80% of normal strength and range of motion is common.

Hard to do ‘dart throwers motion,’ which is important for snapping the wrist in the follow through when throwing.

But these guys are super human, so I’m sure he’ll be fine.”

Did this injury change his career forever?

“Yes, for sure.

For context, he’s the only pro qb I’ve heard of with this, so it’s hard to gauge.”

Use this information as you wish.

He should be cleared to throw by mid-May, on par with OTAs, which is on track assuming no setbacks.

Will he ever be the same QB he was before the injury? Unfortunately we don’t know, although I can say he is at increased risk for new compensating injuries.

As many of you know I’ve been writing/recording this rare and valuable insight for my company
@TheFantasyDRS
since 2017.

Well I am happy to announce that we have decided to put The Fantasy Doctors up for sale.

We have just launched the only fully-searchable NFL injury database available.

This has over 450 players (QBs, RBs, WRs, TEs) including all of the active players and those that have retired over the past couple of years.

This is a game-changer for the fantasy, betting and DFS industry, especially in the right hands.

If anyone is interested in discussing details regarding The Fantasy Doctors my DMs are open (here & on IG). Feel free to reach out.

If you find the information in this post valuable, I’m considering doing some consulting regarding injuries, I’d love to be an asset on your team.

redfan 03-04-2024 11:35 AM

Sorry in advance

L.A. Chieffan 03-04-2024 11:36 AM

Curse of the OBJ

ThyKingdomCome15 03-04-2024 11:39 AM

That backup they had played well.

notorious 03-04-2024 11:40 AM

Good thing they have Browning.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-04-2024 11:40 AM

Might have another Andrew Luck on our hands.

notorious 03-04-2024 11:41 AM

It would absolutely suck to have your favorite team dig their way out of the basement with a pretty damn good QB only to have this happen.

carcosa 03-04-2024 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17427349)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Joe Burrow <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bengals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bengals</a> injury update <br><br>Burrow suffered a season-ending right scapholunate ligament tear in his throwing wrist on November 16, 2023 against the Baltimore Ravens. <br><br>Initially it was speculated that it was a TFCC complex tear, but unfortunately it was worse, the dreaded… <a href="https://t.co/QlNIsTvtme">pic.twitter.com/QlNIsTvtme</a></p>&mdash; Jesse Morse, MD (@DrJesseMorse) <a href="https://twitter.com/DrJesseMorse/status/1764437248131354667?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 3, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I'm going to copy past all the text because it's a lot.

Joe Burrow #Bengals injury update

Burrow suffered a season-ending right scapholunate ligament tear in his throwing wrist on November 16, 2023 against the Baltimore Ravens.

Initially it was speculated that it was a TFCC complex tear, but unfortunately it was worse, the dreaded scapholunate ligament complex tear.

This ligament is very important for the stability of the wrist, and since this/most ligaments have a poor blood supply it needed to be repaired.

I asked an orthopedic hand surgeon colleague his thoughts on this injury as it pertains to Burrow and here was his response:

“It’s a bad injury to have, invariably always lead to some instability over time and arthritis at an earlier age.

80% of normal strength and range of motion is common.

Hard to do ‘dart throwers motion,’ which is important for snapping the wrist in the follow through when throwing.

But these guys are super human, so I’m sure he’ll be fine.”

Did this injury change his career forever?

“Yes, for sure.

For context, he’s the only pro qb I’ve heard of with this, so it’s hard to gauge.”

Use this information as you wish.

He should be cleared to throw by mid-May, on par with OTAs, which is on track assuming no setbacks.

Will he ever be the same QB he was before the injury? Unfortunately we don’t know, although I can say he is at increased risk for new compensating injuries.

As many of you know I’ve been writing/recording this rare and valuable insight for my company
@TheFantasyDRS
since 2017.

Well I am happy to announce that we have decided to put The Fantasy Doctors up for sale.

We have just launched the only fully-searchable NFL injury database available.

This has over 450 players (QBs, RBs, WRs, TEs) including all of the active players and those that have retired over the past couple of years.

This is a game-changer for the fantasy, betting and DFS industry, especially in the right hands.

If anyone is interested in discussing details regarding The Fantasy Doctors my DMs are open (here & on IG). Feel free to reach out.

If you find the information in this post valuable, I’m considering doing some consulting regarding injuries, I’d love to be an asset on your team.

Interesting

Hammock Parties 03-04-2024 11:42 AM

deep ball will never be the same, is what i read

T-post Tom 03-04-2024 11:44 AM

Colonel Steve Austin does not approve this thread. :)

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FlaChief58 03-04-2024 11:46 AM

It sucks for him as a human, butt **** the bungles

smithandrew051 03-04-2024 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17427363)
Might have another Andrew Luck on our hands.

You mean getting sacked 50 times a year is bad?

BWillie 03-04-2024 11:46 AM

"Our window is my entire career"

Pink wearing dick humping fraud

mr. tegu 03-04-2024 11:46 AM

He’ll go his entire career without a fourth quarter TD pass.

Wisconsin_Chief 03-04-2024 11:47 AM

So he's likely not going to be able to fulfill his obligation of single handedly ending our dynasty and riding off into downtown New Orleans next year with the Super Bowl MVP and a cig hanging out of his mouth while simultaneously being named the new king of the football universe like Bengals fans have been telling me is going to happen for 6 months now?

New World Order 03-04-2024 11:47 AM

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FlaChief58 03-04-2024 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 17427379)
So he's not going to single handedly end our dynasty and ride off into downtown New Orleans next year with the Super Bowl MVP while simultaneously being named the new king of the football universe like Bengals fans have been telling me is going to happen for 6 months now?

Outside of Chiefs fans, everyone wants that.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-04-2024 11:50 AM

Seriously, if his career does take a sharp downturn and he continues to struggle with health, I'm not sure the organization ever recovers.

It'll be way worse than Indy without Luck.

Hammock Parties 03-04-2024 11:50 AM

real talk though, invest in a left tackle

even with a damn good LT Mahomes was taking hard shots almost every game

we already learned this the easy way (twice), don't learn it the hard way

Pablo 03-04-2024 11:52 AM

Oh man. That’s just awfulolololololol

ToxSocks 03-04-2024 11:56 AM

Meh, i'll believe it when i see it.

New World Order 03-04-2024 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17427385)
real talk though, invest in a left tackle

even with a damn good LT Mahomes was taking hard shots almost every game

we already learned this the easy way (twice), don't learn it the hard way

Clayster, what do you do at LT?

BWillie 03-04-2024 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17427385)
real talk though, invest in a left tackle

even with a damn good LT Mahomes was taking hard shots almost every game

we already learned this the easy way (twice), don't learn it the hard way

Just get the fattest guy that can stand up and pay him rookie min

Hammock Parties 03-04-2024 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17427402)
Clayster, what do you do at LT?

Alt

neech 03-04-2024 12:04 PM

Burrow might be better then this report we'll have to see.

T-post Tom 03-04-2024 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17427411)
Alt

Eggplant emoji X eleventy billion.

The Franchise 03-04-2024 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17427411)
Alt

Go ahead and lay out how you're getting the chance to draft him.

Mecca 03-04-2024 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17427422)
Go ahead and lay out how you're getting the chance to draft him.

Clay apparently thinks we should be trading 3 1's or a package of like 10 picks.

The Franchise 03-04-2024 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17427430)
Clay apparently thinks we should be trading 3 1's or a package of like 10 picks.

As long as we have Mahomes...our future picks aren't worth that much.

Bearcat 03-04-2024 12:14 PM

Is this the same twitter specialist who said Mahomes was ****ed after hurting his ankle?

The 2nd half of that is all you need to know... attention grabbing opinion to be taken with a grain of salt followed by an ad.

FloridaMan88 03-04-2024 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17427411)
Alt

The son of one the best players during the Martyball era protecting Mahomes.

lawrenceRaider 03-04-2024 12:14 PM

This sucks if true and it reduces his abilities.

The NFL doesn't have enough good QBs as it is now.

loochy 03-04-2024 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17427369)
deep ball will never be the same, is what i read


so we have chad pennington 2.0

loochy 03-04-2024 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17427447)
Is this the same twitter specialist who said Mahomes was ****ed after hurting his ankle?

The 2nd half of that is all you need to know... attention grabbing opinion to be taken with a grain of salt followed by an ad.


well that was dumb. High ankle sprains are very common and players obviously come back from that all the time

neech 03-04-2024 12:20 PM

I can't seem to find that news on Bengals forums? :shrug:

Maybe they ban bad news about Joe.

New World Order 03-04-2024 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 17427450)
This sucks if true and it reduces his abilities.

The NFL doesn't have enough good QBs as it is now.

It has Aiden O'Connell

Bearcat 03-04-2024 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 17427454)
well that was dumb. High ankle sprains are very common and players obviously come back from that all the time

This seems to be a bunch of nothing, too, at least in terms of this guy's opinion since he doesn't really have one. In a matter of a few sentences...

It's bad, always leads to issues.
I'm sure he'll be fine.
Oh, it's career altering.
And he's the first, so who knows.

LMAO

Quote:

It’s a bad injury to have, invariably always lead to some instability over time and arthritis at an earlier age.

80% of normal strength and range of motion is common.

Hard to do ‘dart throwers motion,’ which is important for snapping the wrist in the follow through when throwing.

But these guys are super human, so I’m sure he’ll be fine.”

Did this injury change his career forever?

“Yes, for sure.

For context, he’s the only pro qb I’ve heard of with this, so it’s hard to gauge.”

lawrenceRaider 03-04-2024 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17427468)
It has Aiden O'Connell

ROFL

Yikes. He of zero completed passes in the 2nd half against y'all.

Hammock Parties 03-04-2024 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17427430)
Clay apparently thinks we should be trading 3 1's or a package of like 10 picks.

two 1s, a 2 and a 3 oughta do it

Gary Cooper 03-04-2024 12:37 PM

He will retire 3-1 all-time against Mahomes.

tredadda 03-04-2024 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17427375)
"Our window is my entire career"

Pink wearing dick humping fraud

If accurate then he picked a great time to have signed his contract.

Hammock Parties 03-04-2024 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17427448)
The son of one the best players during the Martyball era protecting Mahomes.

It is written in the stars.

The Franchise 03-04-2024 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17427499)
two 1s, a 2 and a 3 oughta do it

You are not going from 32 into the top 5 for that.

Hammock Parties 03-04-2024 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17427515)
You are not going from 32 into the top 5 for that.

7th or 8th pick in the draft - look at the value chart and tell i'm wrong

staylor26 03-04-2024 12:51 PM

What team wants to trade all the way back to 32?

The Franchise 03-04-2024 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17427532)
7th or 8th pick in the draft - look at the value chart and tell i'm wrong

Just because it adds up in numbers doesn't mean shit. What team in the top 10 is moving back down to 32 and getting low picks everywhere else? Especially for a LT prospect like Alt?

cabletech94 03-04-2024 12:55 PM

im no expert, but with hippa (sorry, spelling) laws, im not so sure we should be reporting on grown Kevin McCallistors' ultimate demise so fast.
if it's just some talking heads' attempt at clicks, we're just jumping teh gun and all.
if this is actual facts then carry on, what the hell do i know......

Buehler445 03-04-2024 12:58 PM

Meh. These twitter docs have been super wrong before. Unless it's coming from his or the Bengals camp, I'm not putting a lot of stock into it.

ROYC75 03-04-2024 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17427499)
two 1s, a 2 and a 3 oughta do it

FOR WHO?

hawkchief 03-04-2024 01:03 PM

Looked like the writer is taking an opportunity to let to potential buyers of his business know it's for sale:

"Well I am happy to announce that we have decided to put The Fantasy Doctors up for sale."

Wouldn't put much, if any, stock in it.

TomBarndtsTwin 03-04-2024 01:05 PM

Luckily, they have Browning, who played just about as well as Burrow did while he was out.

They'll be fine. Not much drop off.

Darien25 03-04-2024 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 17427370)
Colonel Steve Austin does not approve this thread. :)

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I've often wondered what would have happened had the Colonel hit an icy patch or slipped on a banana peel doing about 60 mph...

Jerm 03-04-2024 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17427499)
two 1s, a 2 and a 3 oughta do it

I'm never giving up that much to move up for a Left Tackle...there's enough serviceable guys out there that can get the job done until you're in the position to draft one.

Now you want to talk about giving that up to move up to get an elite playmaker? Different conversation...

St. Patty's Fire 03-04-2024 01:23 PM

carson palmer 2.0

Hammock Parties 03-04-2024 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 17427562)
I'm never giving up that much to move up for a Left Tackle....

Chiefs Kingdumb is just begging for a Mahomes injury

IowaHawkeyeChief 03-04-2024 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 17427501)
He will retire 3-1 all-time against Mahomes.

with no Superbowls...

IowaHawkeyeChief 03-04-2024 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hawkchief (Post 17427554)
Looked like the writer is taking an opportunity to let to potential buyers of his business know it's for sale:

"Well I am happy to announce that we have decided to put The Fantasy Doctors up for sale."

Wouldn't put much, if any, stock in it.

Although he's not the first to discuss. I shared several post in the Bengals forum that are worried about this over a month ago.

Pepe Silvia 03-04-2024 01:35 PM

He will bounce back, the Bengals are lucky since he joined the team.

Jerm 03-04-2024 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17427585)
Chiefs Kingdumb is just begging for a Mahomes injury

We won Super Bowls with Eric Fisher, Orlando Brown Jr., and Donovan Smith as our LTs....but yeah, let's mortgage the future because you're scared of something that literally can happen on any play by anyone being beat.

Brilliant.

Tribal Warfare 03-04-2024 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17427369)
deep ball will never be the same, is what i read

Grip strength is gone and fumbles are more likely

DJ's left nut 03-04-2024 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17427432)
As long as we have Mahomes...our future picks aren't worth that much.

If a first this year and next can get us up to pick Fashanu, we should do it.

Hes going to be a hell of a pass protecting LT, IMO. I don't think that's likely, but it would absolutely be worth the phone call.

Hammock Parties 03-04-2024 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 17427609)
We won Super Bowls with Eric Fisher, Orlando Brown Jr., and Donovan Smith as our LTs....but yeah, let's mortgage the future because you're scared of something that literally can happen on any play by anyone being beat.

Brilliant.

You're not thinking long term.

Mahomes sustained a nearly devastating injury with Orlando at LT and Donovan Smith was good enough that Mahomes endured the 2nd-most QB hits in the NFL last season.

The long term focus should be protecting Mahomes as much as possible. If the Chiefs have spotty left tackle play over the next 10 years it drastically reduces the chances of Mahomes catching Brady.

If you don't want Mahomes to end up like Montana you secure LT right now. Patrick is nearing the age where injuries will be harder to overcome. An ounce of prevention....

DRM08 03-04-2024 01:51 PM

Until proven otherwise, I expect Burrow to be a very good player. That would be a tough pill to swallow for the Bengals if he’s not able to play at his usual level of performance. They paid him $45 million last year in a lost season, and they’re paying him $65 million for the 2024 season.

TambaBerry 03-04-2024 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17427628)
You're not thinking long term.

Mahomes sustained a nearly devastating injury with Orlando at LT and Donovan Smith was good enough that Mahomes endured the 2nd-most QB hits in the NFL last season.

The long term focus should be protecting Mahomes as much as possible. If the Chiefs have spotty left tackle play over the next 10 years it drastically reduces the chances of Mahomes catching Brady.

If you don't want Mahomes to end up like Montana you secure LT right now. Patrick is nearing the age where injuries will be harder to overcome. An ounce of prevention....

a lot of the hits are on mahomes though, he holds the ball a long time sometimes.

BossChief 03-04-2024 01:56 PM

I doubt the validity of this report, but if true it’s terrible news for the nfl. The league needs as many betas as it can line up in front of Alpha Pat for the next 10-15 years and Joe is/was one of the best of them.

As far as the protection conversation…

I’d have no problem if we were to trade 32, next years first and third to get one of the athletic LTs in this class.

The problem is…who is going to even entertain that kind of deal and move back that far?

BossChief 03-04-2024 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17427628)
You're not thinking long term.

Mahomes sustained a nearly devastating injury with Orlando at LT and Donovan Smith was good enough that Mahomes endured the 2nd-most QB hits in the NFL last season.

The long term focus should be protecting Mahomes as much as possible. If the Chiefs have spotty left tackle play over the next 10 years it drastically reduces the chances of Mahomes catching Brady.

If you don't want Mahomes to end up like Montana you secure LT right now. Patrick is nearing the age where injuries will be harder to overcome. An ounce of prevention....

It’s a 2 fold problem.

I honestly think the bigger problem was our WRs were so bad that Pat had to hold the ball more and that caused cracks in protection to become a bigger issue than they would be with better receivers.

Gary Cooper 03-04-2024 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 17427643)
a lot of the hits are on mahomes though, he holds the ball a long time sometimes.

The 49ers had a dude get injured during the SB while running onto the field.

Mahomes took some big shots in the Baltimore game that looked more dangerous than the hit taken against Jacksonville in the playoffs last year.

He got hurt during a QB sneak of all things.

Trent Green took a cheap shot and was injured while Orlando Pace was his LT.

I'd love for us to have the best pass blockers around Mahomes to minimize big hits, but he could get injured doing literally anything on the field. Its a dangerous sport.

Pitt Gorilla 03-04-2024 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17427636)
Until proven otherwise, I expect Burrow to be a very good player. That would be a tough pill to swallow for the Bengals if he’s not able to play at his usual level of performance. They paid him $45 million last year in a lost season, and they’re paying him $65 million for the 2024 season.

Think I'd rather have Browning than Burrow at those numbers.

Fat Elvis 03-04-2024 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hawkchief (Post 17427554)
Looked like the writer is taking an opportunity to let to potential buyers of his business know it's for sale:

"Well I am happy to announce that we have decided to put The Fantasy Doctors up for sale."

Wouldn't put much, if any, stock in it.


That was my take as well....

Fat Elvis 03-04-2024 02:44 PM

I think people forget that Mahomes is simply different from everyone else - and that goes for his training regimen as well. Mahomes trains to lessen the likelihood of sustaining an injury, not necessarily to become a traditional physical freak (see Dad bod). If you watched the quarterback show on Netflix, they highlighted how unique his training is compared to other players in the NFL. The dude literally had his kneecap on the side of his leg- and it wasn't a season ending injury.

Do I want him protected? Absolutely. But there are different ways to go about doing that--either by getting him elite protection so he has more time if he has to hold onto the ball, getting him elite weapons so that he doesn't have to hold onto the ball for so long, or both of those options would be ideal.

Hammock Parties 03-04-2024 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 17427654)
It’s a 2 fold problem.

I honestly think the bigger problem was our WRs were so bad that Pat had to hold the ball more and that caused cracks in protection to become a bigger issue than they would be with better receivers.

2021 was the intersection of elite receiver play and spotty LT play

Defenses can always force a QB to hold the ball.

We would benefit a lot more from Mahomes being able to hold it with impunity.

Particularly since he likes to hold it.

DrunkBassGuitar 03-04-2024 03:12 PM

they'll be fine since Burrow is a system QB

Bowser 03-04-2024 03:19 PM

Tee Higgins is loving that franchise tag right about now.

Wallymo 03-04-2024 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17427385)
real talk though, invest in a left tackle

even with a damn good LT Mahomes was taking hard shots almost every game

we already learned this the easy way (twice), don't learn it the hard way

Agreed. Let's not lose sight of the ball here. The first rule has to be to protect Mahomes. The team does not appear to have a LT starter under contract. I read that the only two LT expected to be drafted in the first round will go early.

Is the team going to go with a stop-gap measure like D. Smith again? Move our RT over despite his inexperience at the position? Draft a guard highly? What's the plan?

Once football jesus is protected, then we can talk about receivers and defense. Because if he goes down for any length of time the season is effectively over.

Spott 03-04-2024 03:36 PM

He was going to win zero Super Bowls with or without that injury.

Rainbarrel 03-04-2024 03:39 PM

Burrow-Luck podcast in a few short seasons

Ming the Merciless 03-04-2024 03:39 PM

I am not normally a person who thinks 'mystical' thoughts or believes in superstition a whole lot...


But when the Bengals just let the Bills walk away and not insist that that playoff game was played I had a feeling both of those teams were gonna keep on living cursed existences...


The fact they just agreed to not play that game was a cosmic shift in universal energy that you dont **** with


IOW -- they ****ed around and found out, due to cosmic "entanglement"


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jerryaldini 03-04-2024 03:47 PM

Seems bogus. Zilch on the Bengals board by the way

LoneWolf 03-04-2024 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17427499)
two 1s, a 2 and a 3 oughta do it

I'm a Notre Dame alum and have watched Alt play a lot. He is not worth that amount of trade compensation. He is very good, but he is not Orlando Pace/Joe Thomas/Willie Roaf good.

Bump 03-04-2024 03:52 PM

the Bengals definitely have some bad luck. Carson Palmer tearing his knee against the Steelers and now this. Both good QB's and pretty much the only really good ones they've had since the 80's or 90's.


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