Report: Justin Jefferson Potentially on the Trade Block
 

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">������������: There is &quot;steam&quot; that the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Vikings?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Vikings</a> could make WR Justin Jefferson available via trade, per <a href="https://twitter.com/Charley_Walters?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Charley_Walters</a> <a href="https://t.co/r8aLroBG2e">pic.twitter.com/r8aLroBG2e</a></p>&mdash; Dov Kleiman (@NFL_DovKleiman) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1761822656196710583?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 25, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Oh WOW!

The thought of Jefferson catching passes from Patrick...

Yeah its never going to happen but many times Ive had to force myself to stop thinking about it because its never going to happen.

BUT, what if it did...

Skyy Moore, a third and a 2026 seventh

Alphas not wanted.


Need to save the draft picks so we can get a MVS/Sky Moore hybrid instead.

Chiefs get Jefferson and Vikings 3rd pick next year for
Sneed, next years 1st round pick.

Money this year basically a wash.

You STILL ****in that chicken???

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It would be awesome, but we all know it's not happening.

Even if the Chiefs wanted this to happen it never would. The last pick in the first rd isn't valuable for a trade like this

Would be worth it just to see Tyreek's face when we pay J Jeff the $$$$.

Nope, would have to give up way too much for a guy like him.

I’d be shocked if he isn’t a Viking next year.

A potential trade partner would probably need to come up with two 1sts and sign Jefferson to something like a $30-33m/year long-term extension.

Sounds nice, but the contract plus the number of picks required for him would probably be too high.

Now I know he’s better than Diggs when he was traded to Buffalo and WR compensation is way up. But I think it’s a choice of what you want to pay for. For example, if they wanted a guy like Sneed, then you can easily make it work. If they don’t, then they are going to demand two firsts at a minimum based on where we draft. That would be much harder to do.

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LMAO

:popcorn:

Eh.

I'd imagine it would similar to the Tyreek/Adams trades and deal?

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Give them 1st round picks in like 2038... works in Madden like 90% of the time.

It's gonna be just a bit more than either of those. He's the perfect WR on a HOF trajectory and he's 25 in June.

He never stops.

We have NEVER gotten this type of guy.

Will this be a first?

You know, up until 5ish years ago it wasn't conventional for teams to build around their WRs. Yeah, they'd get highly drafted and they were important parts of the team, but the top guys weren't making near what they currently are in terms of % of the salary cap.

And thus far, I mean... other than the Chiefs in 2019, there isn't really a proof of concept that says this is a good strategy.

And yet here you are acting like the team is a failure if they don't spend X in such and such way on the position and instead choose to go elsewhere with their resources.

The NFL has been trending this way recently. I remember having a conversation with a friend around 2016 or so and they just blurted out the NFL offenses are going to be more like the NBA. Just freak athletes running down the field and it's going to be hard to play defense against them.

I don't have a crystal ball. Veach could mismanage the offense and WR's again and we could 3peat by default if we get the right breaks, other teams choke , etc

But we have won ZERO SB's without an elite pass-catcher.

The first 1 we had 2 HOF weapons and Kelce has been the guy in the last two years.

Kelce was already aging out last year. It was nice he got on a run in the playoffs but the clock is ticking.

You don't just find another unicorn HOF TE like Kelce. Just getting a #1 WR is easier so why not start looking now?


That's my position and I don't get why that seems so radical.


Now back to Jeff, I expect the Vikings if this actually was true would want a top ten pick back as part of a large package and we don't have one of those.

If all they needed was the Tyreek package I pull the trigger on that without question.

Everybody bitches about the Packers never spending a 1st rounder on a WR or TE for Rodgers, but I call Jennings, Jordy, Jones, Cobb, Adams a pretty damn good stretch of receivers over 10 years.

What if we just did kind of the same thing?

It's a nice thought but the Packers are just drafting a lot more guys.

Chiefs not only have not gone for quality at WR, we don't do quantity either.


So I hear what you are saying but to pull it off:

1. Get new WR scouts, emphasize route running more (what I think we have been neglecting on our picks)

2.Get a real WR coach, come on down DeSean Jackson

3. Draft a lot more WR's each draft

I’ve heard of him. Let’s roll.

Imagine winning 3 superbowls in 5 years and still bitching about the front office.

Considering it would take a Tyreek level trade compensation + making him the highest paid WR ever coming off an injury year… no thank you

More.

And we’d have the least valuable ammo given our draft rank.

He won’t be traded (and probably isn’t even available - the source of this was saying they should entertain trading him months ago so this is likely more speculation than reality), but MahomesMagic will be back in October to remind all of us how we weren’t aggressive and blah blah blah because we could’ve had JJ.

Can’t wait for that one.

The last two years have proven we don’t need an alpha male WR who is going to expect and demand a certain amount of targets.

We need competency. Guys who know their role and execute at the foundational level. And yeah you need good receivers, but not these Hall of Fame types. That’s gravy.

Just keep giving Mahomes a good line, defense, and reliable running game.

That works when you have the best tight end to play the game. Kelce turned it on in the playoffs but he can't be the only focal point of our offense anymore.

We need to revamp our entire WR room and be saving Kelce until we need him and extend his career.

Add in all their great receivers they have now. They have a top 5 draft nearly every year
Hard to remember them bombing out. :hmmm:

only problem is he needs a new non rookie deal along with giving up draft capital to get him in the first place

Does that formula work without the presence of Kelce as the alpha in the passing game?

Kelce turns 35 in October.

32 team's fans trying to put child porn on Jefferson's laptop

We're gonna need a LOT of posts to make this happen... But I belief!

No.

What a joke. Potentially means made up for a headline. OJ Simpson could potentially be a short yardage back for the Titans.

We have 5 picks. Even if this was real we have zero to offer.

It can, sure.

The Patriots did it with the corpse of Gronk and Edelman.

This let Mahomes scout the WRs thing we did seemed to work pretty damn well, yeah? Let’s let that guy continue to get better and keep up with that strategy for drafting guys, and this instant gratification at WR you guys are seeking won’t even matter

As much fun as it would be to give the rest of the league the middle finger...and I freaking LOVE Justin Jefferson...

The only way you are getting Mahomes a Justin Jefferson is if you DRAFT the next Justin Jefferson on a rookie contract. Keep taking shots at 1st and 2nd round wide receivers.

There may be a time where the Chiefs need to trade the equivalent of the 10th overall pick for a receiving weapon (that's the Davante Adams trade price on the Rich Hill value chart) and then re-set the market at the WR spot.

It's hard to say this is it. The Chiefs have won back-to-back Super Bowls and in really strong shape to move forward with a balanced team and lots of flexibility against the cap.

With the cap Jefferson is going to immediately command, KC would have to sacrifice at other positions again to make it all work. And it's going to be missing the equivalent of its next 2 first round picks to boot. So it's a double whammy on filling out the roster.

What we had at WR during 2023 wasn’t good enough - but 2022 was. It’s a fine line and when the MVS’s of the world actually play up to their ability, shit was fine.

I’m advocating for a Darnell Mooney one-year deal + another top 64 pick on a WR this year. I’d try to retain Mecole.

Rice
Mooney
Top 64 pick
Hardman
Watson

That is plenty enough to 1) thrive as an offense and regain Patrick’s MVP form and 2) complete their ultimate goal of a three-peat as it allows for proper resource allocation to other areas of the team too.

Putting all your eggs into a Justin Jefferson basket right now, however, would not position us to fill out the rest of the roster adequately.

Rashee Rice took over games this year. He's the next guy and he's got a lot of potential.

I'm in the group that thinks KC needs to think about life after relying on Kelce.

But I don't see giving up so much for a WR. An expensive FA is one thing, but picks and money is another.

Vikes would have to really, really want Sneed in the trade to make this happen.

I hope so.

Rice without Kelce plus a really, really elite D probably gets it done. I'm just not convinced an elite D is as sustainable as getting an elite offense built around Mahomes.

This team won back to back SBs (which hasn’t happened since the early 2000’s) on the backs of cheap young talent. While Jefferson would be nice, the trade compensation would be high and go against what this team has done the last two years.

They are better suited getting a solid and relatively affordable WR in FA and draft the rest. Jefferson is a guy that teams with a ton of cap space or in a desperate win now mindset trade for. KC is neither and I fully expect Veach to pass on trading for him.

If we don’t get him a direct competitor will. So might as well just get him ourselves.

This.. It’s not like we are on the edge of making the SB.. We have arrived and building something that can be sustained over multiple years… Losing draft picks and cap space isn’t in that plan..

Sure, I guess I'll take him....BUT I WON'T BE HAPPY ABOUT IT

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Im with this. With the talent at wr in this draft if we could move up in the second to potentially get a guy like legette that would be awesome.


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Trade compensation aside? Chris Jones or Justin Jefferson? Probably about equal salary. Jefferson clearly.

Factor in whatever trade compensation? Still Jefferson for me.

I'd love the Chiefs to acquire him simply for the reaction. There'd be tsunamic shockwaves sent throughout the entire league and all of sports media. Twitter would absolutely explode!

2024 1st round pick
Sneed
2025 3rd round pick
Toney, Moore or MVS

The one thing I feel confident in, is that if Mahomes wants him on this team, like really says he needs to have some pressure off him and this guy fits, then they will actually make an effort. If we were never to hear even a hint of interest then Mahomes is probably fine without.

Yeah but why would you really want Sneed if you’re trading JJ? Your goal is to rebuild, not pay top of the market for a corner.

If you can't afford Tyreek Hill, you can't afford Justin Jefferson either. I hope Veach will remain focused on the OL and defense.

Toney Moore and MVS have zero value.

But the rest I would do but Minnesota would not accept that.

A direct competitor got Adams. A direct competitor got Diggs. A direct competitor got Hill. A direct competitor got OBJ. A direct competitor got Hopkins. A direct competitor got AJ Brown. Ultimately every team is a direct competitor as at some point they will be in the way of KC winning SBs. Every one of those teams has failed.

One of the greatest things about this team is that it’s not only talented across the board, but it’s also deep. KC wins because they rarely make huge moves like this which their competitors do.

Just because you're rebuilding doesn't mean you don't need good players to help you win. Sneed is young and while he would cost a good amount...he can help out their defense.

Paying Jefferson at his age is different than a 3rd contract for Tyreek.

According to A.J. Brown, the Chiefs tried to trade for him in the same offseason.

Not that this will happen though.

I put it at a 0.0001% chance of happening but Jefferson, Rice and Kelce would be hilarious for the rest of the NFL.

After watching them win back to back rings with a Belichick strategy of focusing heavily on the OL & Defense, I would be shocked to see them pay top dollar at the receiver position. I really just want to see them finding more guys like Rashee Rice in the Draft instead of paying top dollar for veteran players.

What does everyone think they do at QB? Seems like Cousins might be gone. What they do next seems pretty relevant to whether they want to keep Jefferson.

And yet when I suggested trading up for Marvin Harrison Jr you said it was too expensive and I was foolish and here you are giving up the farm for a guy.

Funny how people like to sell their souls when it's "their" guy.

1. You are a fool.
2. That’s not the farm.
3. Trading up from 32 to the top 3 would take more than I just put in my post.

The draft a rookie WR and sign Derrick Henry thread. Should be less re-hashed

LOL. Marvin Harrison Jr trade comp is well above JJ. How would anyone seriously think otherwise?

MHJr ability level over the next 5yrs is assumed to be comparable to JJ. And having him on a rookie contract versus 28-30mm AAV? It's a dream sequence.

I'm of the opinion that maximizing Patrick Mahomes is the best path forward.

Even the best defenses fail. You need points on the board to win football games.

It's gonna come down to us asking 15 to deliver the goods, no matter how elite the defense is.

Why make it harder for him to do his thing?

You keep a line in front to keep him upright, and keep his arsenal stocked with weapons.

Rashee Rice and Justin Jefferson certainly make the inevitable retirement of Travis Kelce a lot less terrifying, while setting Patrick Mahomes up to have success for the foreseeable future, and not asking him to make chicken salad out of chicken shit on a weekly basis.

The Chiefs couldn't score 3 touchdowns reliably last season. It was as unbelievable as it was tough to watch. 3 touchdowns used to be a slow first half. To see that become the top of the mountain for expectations with 15 under center, that's just not what you want to see.

This team goes as 15 goes. You build around and support 15, the guy is gonna deliver.

Keep relying on Jags and even if 15 does everything perfect, the scrubs can still screw it all up.

How aren't you a GM yet? :rolleyes:

You need to submit your resume

For the same reason you aren’t a pimp. I enjoy the product too much.

I can’t believe you just assumed trading for JJ is the same as trading up to 3 in this draft and are calling someone out because of your original take.

Even the best offenses fail, too. Ours did. The Patriots undefeated one did. They all can.

You need a complete team. That's how you maximize Mahomes.

I didn't assume that but nice try from the peanut gallery.

It's just ironic that trading away our first round pick, an ALL-PRO and best coverman in the NFL in Sneed and another high pick and another receiver is such a great trade.

Maybe you and the Franchise can apply together to the Chiefs as the Abbott and Costello GM Dream Team.

Two ****ing know-it-alls on every subject. :harumph:

Is this the twilight zone?

Nobody's saying it's a 'great trade', or even that it's a possible trade. It's not happening. NOT HAPPENING.

But trading for the #3 pick and 5 years of cost controlled rookie star WR isn't the same thing as trading a ton of draft capital AND having to pay $30m per on top of it. And THAT would be monumentally stupid and almost certainly COST KC Super Bowls, not win them because of what it would do to the rest of the 53.

There's no free lunch.

Mahomes plus best 52 is working out well so far. I say we stay with that.

Doesn't mean we don't need to get better at WR. It just means we don't have to go crazy, just get BETTER. Keep the guys we need to keep, and draft and develop.

Is it hard to understand that we don’t have control over Sneed beyond a 1yr contract on the franchise tag where we have to take the entire cost of the contract under this year’s cap? And perhaps he decides to hold out for training camp in disappointment? Do you think that’s the same as just trading him away on a cheap deal when we have years of control beyond that?

A 2025 3rd is equivalent to a 2024 4th. That’s a day 3 pick, not “another high pick” according to you.

You have no idea what you’re talking about. Go back to your lunches and experiences in the 1980s.

This is what the Bears gave up to move up 8 spots last year and (afaik) were guaranteed 3 years with Moore instead of 1 year of Sneed.

So yeah, moving up 30 spots would be more than 1 year of Sneed, trading 1st round picks, a 3rd, and not-even-JAG level receiver.


Chicago traded a first-round selection (1st) to Carolina in exchange for

WR D. J. Moore (3 years, not 1),
first- and second-round selections (9th and 61st),
2024 first-round and
2025 second-round selections

Hell, when the Chiefs grabbed Mahomes, they had to give up an additional 1st round pick to move up 17 spots just to 10th.

Justin Jefferson is going to want to be THE HIGHEST PAID WR IN THE LEAGUE.

Marvin Harrison would be on a rookie contract.

You and Franchise's happy meal deal we would give up a 1st, a 3rd, a WR and the best cover corner in the NFL with Sneed PLUS pay the most expensive contract to a WR.

Yes, we only "control" Sneed for 1 year, just like we did with Chris Jones. Worked out OK right?

Then you try to tell me my idea is stupid and you and Franchise have agreement that you think your deal is so great.

I think you're wearing rose colored glasses.

That deal is neither cheap nor great for the Chiefs.

Yup. And this year has what's presumed to be a generational receiver as well as 3 possible QBs who could go top-3. The value of those first few picks is through the absolute roof.

This isn't any generic year as it relates to those top few picks. It's probably one of the deepest top-10 drafts in awhile as well.

LOLLLLLLL.... What don't you understand here?

The deal Franchise put forward almost certainly wouldn't be enough for JJ.

But there's absolutely no way, shape, or form it would be enough for Marvin Harrison Jr.

Everyone on this board would rather have the latter for that comp proposal. But it's not even remotely close.

Try to keep up here. This isn't a discussion between our rather having JJ instead. It's your telling him that what he put forward for JJ is anything remotely close to what it would take to move up for 3 in the draft.

We don't have rose-colored glasses. You're just blind and don't even understand it.