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KingPriest2 01-25-2021 09:42 AM

Arians better than Reid?
 
Yes I was just told that Ariana is superior to Reid

Their post

I think Arians is superior to Reid. Prior to last year, Reid was a failure in games that mattered. Arians has two Rings as an assistant, and is considered every bit the offensive mind Reid has been. I stand by the opinion, and we'll see how it goes in two weeks. I don't plan on spending them debating. We have our thoughts. The game will bear them out, or disprove. Good Luck!

And their post before this

History tends to favor my position. Brady usually wins these games. That's a fact. KC fans have this misguided notion that they can't be beaten. They can. Mahomes is good, bordering great. Brady has beaten bigger names, and better teams for two decades now. Completing 60% of his passes and 40TD. He's far from over the hill. And he has a great defense. Take it seriously. And if you think Mahomes wants it more than Brady, you're deluded. Brady wants it. Every week. He's obsessed with greatness. He's not taking this lightly at all.


Post before that


I'm telling you. Watch out. The overconfidence will cost them. Brady has been on fire, and making magic happen. PS you're dealing with JPP and Ndomakong Suh on that DL, with no Eric Fisher. This is going to be a bloodbath, and KC would be wise to take it as the biggest challenge in franchise history. It is. They're playing a well-coached, deep talented, capable team that came back on them in week 12 and are playing excellent football. And...Bruce Arians & Todd Bowles are every bit the coaching tandem as what the Chiefs have to offer. This is a tough matchup.

BWillie 01-25-2021 09:45 AM

No Risk it no biscuit is a fun offense but that team has 3 #1 Wide Receivers, a HOF TE and two other very good TEs and one of the best Olines in football.

stevieray 01-25-2021 09:45 AM

"Mahomes is good, bordering on great..."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

That's some pretty astute analysis

kcclone 01-25-2021 09:48 AM

The more the media showers praise onto the Bucs, Brady and Arians, the better I like our chances in the Super Bowl.

cabletech94 01-25-2021 09:48 AM

Arians wears a really stupid hat also.

The Franchise 01-25-2021 09:50 AM

That Bucs team is sloppy as ****. They aren’t precision at all.

Chris Meck 01-25-2021 09:54 AM

Oh great. here we go.

man the next two weeks are going to be soooooooo tedious.

Chiefshrink 01-25-2021 09:56 AM

Arians 3 yrs ago while being an analyst for several Chiefs games insinuated Mahomes is overrated and NOT ALL THAT :rolleyes:. If I'm Pat that is my MJ self-motivation to make him pay. Not that Pat needs motivated BUT.......you get my point.:shrug:

New World Order 01-25-2021 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 15509270)
Oh great. here we go.

man the next two weeks are going to be soooooooo tedious.

Yip

Kman34 01-25-2021 09:58 AM

“Brady has beaten bigger names, and better teams for two decades now. “

WTF??? This is almost Bill fan delusional...

Red Dawg 01-25-2021 09:59 AM

Rediculous. He falls ass backwards into a team he didn't build. Andy is the best ever.

htismaqe 01-25-2021 10:00 AM

Please refrain from posting shit from other message boards here. We get enough of it from interlopers. Let them have their fun, in THEIR house, and don't ****ing entice them to come over here.

BWillie 01-25-2021 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 15509273)
Arians 3 yrs ago while being an analyst for several Chiefs games insinuated Mahomes is overrated and NOT ALL THAT :rolleyes:. If I'm Pat that is my MJ self-motivation to make him pay. Not that Pat needs motivated BUT.......you get my point.:shrug:

I still remember how god awful he was as analyst. Pure cringe.

Easy 6 01-25-2021 10:02 AM

Arians is definitely better than Reid... for me to poop on!

Lzen 01-25-2021 10:06 AM

Arians has 2 rings as an assistant? Okay, but doesn't Reid have at least 1 ring as an assistant? And this is Reid's 3rd SB appearance as head coach. The only historic fact is that Spags has made Brady look human. And I expect that will be the case again this time.

Chiefshrink 01-25-2021 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15509286)
I still remember how god awful he was as analyst. Pure cringe.

That he was for sure.:thumb:

Molitoth 01-25-2021 10:11 AM

_____ could be the best coach of all time... but if _____ goes out and throws 4 INT's, or ____ has some critical fumbles... I Don't really think that reflects on a head coach in 1 game.

Arguing that whoever has the better coach is going to win the Super Bowl is silly to me.

Kman34 01-25-2021 10:13 AM

The answer to the OPs question is... **** NO!!!

Tonka83 01-25-2021 10:14 AM

**** him and his gay hat

joethomas 01-25-2021 10:15 AM

Why yalls so obsessed with what opposing fans are saying around their water coolers?

DeepSouth 01-25-2021 10:16 AM

In reviewing their coaching staff, just saw where Kevin Ross is their cornerbacks coach. He was drafted and played for the Chiefs in the 80's and 90's. Most of you probably aren't old enough to remember him.

TwistedChief 01-25-2021 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15509283)
Please refrain from posting shit from other message boards here. We get enough of it from interlopers. Let them have their fun, in THEIR house, and don't ****ing entice them to come over here.

This.

RINGLEADER 01-25-2021 10:25 AM

Not to be rude about it, but who cares? I’m already seeing all the same speculation from all the same “experts” about how the first meeting didn’t matter, how Tampa Bay is such a different team now, about how the Chiefs don’t match up, about how cover-2 stops Mahomes, about how their d-line will make things impossible for the Chiefs.

The only meaningful difference is Fisher being out. Maybe that leads to a few plays that wouldn’t otherwise happen but KC is going to light the Bucs up like the did the first time and like they did to the Bills who we heard all the same things about going into the game yesterday.

BossChief 01-25-2021 10:35 AM

They are going to get depantsed in front of their home fans.

O.city 01-25-2021 10:38 AM

LOL, no. It's not close.

Ones a good coach, ones a hall of fame top 5 HC in the history of the league.

mr. tegu 01-25-2021 10:40 AM

Our coaching advantage might be our biggest in this game.

morphius 01-25-2021 10:43 AM

I remember some talking heads saying we were too cocky last year. This team is just confident, but find me a halfway decent team that goes into a game thinking they are going to lose? I remember they said the same kind of stuff about the Royals when they won, but they were just a team having fun together. Such a lame argument.

big nasty kcnut 01-25-2021 10:46 AM

Mushmouth is not better then coach reid.

warpaint* 01-25-2021 10:53 AM

Get back to me when Arians takes Donovan McNabb to a Súper Bowl

Lzen 01-25-2021 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeepSouth (Post 15509319)
In reviewing their coaching staff, just saw where Kevin Ross is their cornerbacks coach. He was drafted and played for the Chiefs in the 80's and 90's. Most of you probably aren't old enough to remember him.

I remember Kevin The Rock, Ross. Hell of a player for an undersized CB. And he was tough as nails.

FloridaMan88 01-25-2021 10:56 AM

I am sure you could probably find some random troll on the Internet who thinks that Adam Gase is a better HC than Andy Reid.

Who gives a shit.

Dunerdr 01-25-2021 12:03 PM

Brady has been on fire making magic happen? Didnt he just throw three picks?

Skyy God 01-25-2021 12:13 PM

The only area in which Arians > Reid is throwing his own players under the bus.

alpha_omega 01-25-2021 12:21 PM

No.

Bill Brasky 01-25-2021 12:22 PM

We can only hope they continue to launch deep interceptions when they play the chiefs. I still can’t believe the Packers did NOTHING with two intercepted balls. Didn’t even convert a first down.

You best believe the Chiefs will be converting those to points.

I hope the media sucks off the bucs and Tom Brady all week. I want our guys to be disrespected and take it personally.

Wallcrawler 01-25-2021 12:30 PM

Yes because Arians has hosted 7 championship games with multiple teams and Andy only has the 6. Doesnt matter that it happened in Arians' donkey show wet dreams with Brady frenching his son while watching Arians chug asscock.

TwistedChief 01-25-2021 12:33 PM

I'll never forget that season when Arians was an announcer. And when the Chiefs played the Browns and were moving the ball up and down the field at will, he nonsensically proclaimed that it was "a game of field position."

I felt bad for the old guy as I figured he was suffering from dementia or something and wouldn't be long for this business. And then he was hired to coach the Bucs.

So no, I don't think he's better than Andy Reid.

RealSNR 01-25-2021 01:01 PM

Stud QBs Tom Brady has beaten in the Super Bowl:

Kurt Warner

...

.......

Uhhh......... Jake Delhomme? Kinda? I mean, that one year...

Wallcrawler 01-25-2021 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 15509831)
Stud QBs Tom Brady has beaten in the Super Bowl:

Kurt Warner

...

.......

Uhhh......... Jake Delhomme? Kinda? I mean, that one year...

Russel Wilson. He should have checked to a Beastmode handoff.

Gary Cooper 01-25-2021 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 15509831)
Stud QBs Tom Brady has beaten in the Super Bowl:

Kurt Warner

...

.......

Uhhh......... Jake Delhomme? Kinda? I mean, that one year...

Donovan McNabb was really good for several years. The Patriots actually beat some good teams in the SB. It's always the mediocre teams they struggled with, like the Giants twice and Eagles with Nick Foles.

The Falcons and Seahawks games should have been losses if the opposing coaches didn't mismanage those games.

Deberg_1990 01-25-2021 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeepSouth (Post 15509319)
In reviewing their coaching staff, just saw where Kevin Ross is their cornerbacks coach. He was drafted and played for the Chiefs in the 80's and 90's. Most of you probably aren't old enough to remember him.

Bruce Aryan ‘Nations’ was once a coach for my favorite football team, the Kansas City Chiefs. Coached under Marty. Probably how he knows Ross.

Oxford 01-25-2021 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 15509694)
The only area in which Arians > Reid is throwing his own players under the bus.

This is the secret to Andy Reid, he doesn't throw his players under the bus, he knows that as a NFL head coach the temptation is to try to do everything, but having good a good staff/coaches/organization is the key. So you can do what YOU need to do and everything else gets handled. It's also why players want to play for him.

carcosa 01-25-2021 01:25 PM

Chris Jones is going to remove Brady's entire spinal column.

Hog's Gone Fishin 01-25-2021 01:36 PM

Reid host back to back to back NFCCG as HC of the Eagles

Then

Reid Hosted Back to Back to Back AFCCG as HC of the Chiefs

Arians wears a stupid Hat.

Bearcat 01-25-2021 01:40 PM

Quote:

The overconfidence will cost them
This is about all you need to know about the person's ability to talk football.

Easy 6 01-25-2021 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 15509897)
Chris Jones is going to remove Brady's entire spinal column.

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Rams Fan 01-25-2021 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 15509831)
Stud QBs Tom Brady has beaten in the Super Bowl:

Kurt Warner

...

.......

Uhhh......... Jake Delhomme? Kinda? I mean, that one year...

Not Mahomes level, but Russell Wilson and Matt Ryan aren’t exactly complete dog shit.

Mahomes_Is_God 01-25-2021 08:42 PM

Is it a coincidence that I thought of Deberg when reading the thread title? Honest to god, that's the first thing that popped into my head LMAO

tredadda 01-25-2021 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15509283)
Please refrain from posting shit from other message boards here. We get enough of it from interlopers. Let them have their fun, in THEIR house, and don't ****ing entice them to come over here.

Thank you.

tredadda 01-25-2021 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeepSouth (Post 15509319)
In reviewing their coaching staff, just saw where Kevin Ross is their cornerbacks coach. He was drafted and played for the Chiefs in the 80's and 90's. Most of you probably aren't old enough to remember him.

Remember him. Not too well but I remember him playing very well opposite Albert Lewis.

Bob Dole 01-25-2021 08:54 PM

Last year doesn’t count. Two rings as an assistant!!!

Bob Dole 01-25-2021 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mahomes_Is_God (Post 15510964)
Is it a coincidence that I thought of Deberg when reading the thread title? Honest to god, that's the first thing that popped into my head LMAO

#metoo

Rasputin 01-25-2021 09:06 PM

Who was superior on 11/29 2020?

Hog's Gone Fishin 01-25-2021 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rasputin (Post 15510995)
Who was superior on 11/29 2020?

Arians was the only team we faced this year that was too stupid to play 2 safeties deep to take away the deep threat. Hill had over 200 yards in the 1st qtr and 269 yards in the game with 3 td's.

I remember thinking , how ****ing stupid is this coach.

wazu 01-25-2021 09:27 PM

You know who else thought Arians were better than everybody else? The Nazis.

TwistedChief 01-25-2021 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 15511021)
You know who else thought Arians were better than everybody else? The Nazis.

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

Chieftain 01-25-2021 09:35 PM

Arians is a really awkward dude. He is very blunt and doesn't really have much charisma. A good offensive mind, has had success and been coach of the year a couple of times. But he is no Andy Reid who is arguably the greatest offensive mind in history. I like his agressive mindset which reminds a lot of Andy but he lacks the level of creativity of Reid.

jerryaldini 01-25-2021 10:04 PM

Outside of Mahomes over Brady our coaching staff advantage might be our biggest in this game. People underestimate how much Reid means to the success, especially with extra time to prepare.

Stryker 01-25-2021 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerryaldini (Post 15511065)
Outside of Mahomes over Brady our coaching staff advantage might be our biggest in this game. People underestimate how much Reid means to the success, especially with extra time to prepare.

Arians ROFL Remember his Cardinals stint? :clap:

#NOTWORRIED

Stryker 01-25-2021 10:20 PM

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htismaqe 01-25-2021 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 15511014)
Arians was the only team we faced this year that was too stupid to play 2 safeties deep to take away the deep threat. Hill had over 200 yards in the 1st qtr and 269 yards in the game with 3 td's.

I remember thinking , how ****ing stupid is this coach.

yep

philfree 01-25-2021 10:30 PM

Arians hasn't been able to develop a young QB in his last two HC stops. He's done well with guys already heading to the HOF though. Not impressed.

PAChiefsGuy 01-25-2021 10:41 PM

Arians is a good coach but he's not Reid. Reid is special he might go down as one of GOAT HCs when he is retired Arians isn't on that level. He's solid though.

Chief Roundup 01-25-2021 10:58 PM

My response to that person. Come on Skip Bayless your schtick is old.

T-post Tom 01-25-2021 11:04 PM

Seems many Bucs’ fans prefer to cut & paste what Bills’ fans were saying last week. And Bills’ fans did the same with Browns’ tripe from the week prior. The more things change, the more they stay the same. Chiefs know how to fight for their right to Lombardi! Tompa Bay loses by double digits. :)

Jewish Rabbi 01-25-2021 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 15511021)
You know who else thought Arians were better than everybody else? The Nazis.

**** THOSE ASSHOLES!!!

007 01-26-2021 08:13 AM

Last I checked Brady had lost to mahomes the last two times they faced off.

Monticore 01-26-2021 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 15509948)
This is about all you need to know about the person's ability to talk football.

LoL, this argument has always made me laugh.

luv 01-26-2021 09:50 AM

We drafted our offense, right? Reid coached them as rookies for the most part? Arian's offense is built mostly with players that had already proven themselves. He may have a talented offense, but it's not because of him.

KChiefs1 01-26-2021 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeepSouth (Post 15509319)
In reviewing their coaching staff, just saw where Kevin Ross is their cornerbacks coach. He was drafted and played for the Chiefs in the 80's and 90's. Most of you probably aren't old enough to remember him.

:LOL:

It wasn't THAT long ago! :shake:

Deberg_1990 01-26-2021 09:58 AM

It’s close, but slight edge to Aryans due to his ‘go for broke’ mentality

Beef Supreme 01-26-2021 09:59 AM

From the title, i thought this was a deberg thread.

KChiefs1 01-26-2021 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 15511014)
Arians was the only team we faced this year that was too stupid to play 2 safeties deep to take away the deep threat. Hill had over 200 yards in the 1st qtr and 269 yards in the game with 3 td's.

I remember thinking , how ****ing stupid is this coach.

Todd Bowles is the DC. I'd almost bet Arians had nothing to do with the defensive game plan.

wazu 01-26-2021 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15511649)
Todd Bowles is the DC. I'd almost bet Arians had nothing to do with the defensive game plan.

That's never an excuse. If you're going to delegate half of your team's game plan you are still 100% responsible for how that turns out.

straycash 01-26-2021 10:09 AM

Always liked Andy even before KC, he's an all timer.

redfan 01-26-2021 10:10 AM

tenderly pats Bucs fan’s head:
No child, and you almost made me spit take my fine Colombian dark roast. Now then, try not to eat your crayons.

Megatron96 01-26-2021 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15511639)
It’s close, but slight edge to Aryans due to his ‘go for broke’ mentality

ROFL.
No.

Megatron96 01-26-2021 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15511649)
Todd Bowles is the DC. I'd almost bet Arians had nothing to do with the defensive game plan.

Arians and Bowles were together in AZ. Based on what I saw of them when they were both here, I doubt Arians is a micromanager. And Bowles has worked for Arians long enough to know perfectly well what Arians wants. The only time Arians is going to stick his nose into Bowles' business is if something goes terribly wrong, and even then he's not going to dictate to Bowles how to call a defense.

rabblerouser 01-26-2021 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 15509445)
I remember Kevin The Rock, Ross. Hell of a player for an undersized CB. And he was tough as nails.

Moved to safety at the end of his career.

I remember at one time having Dale Carter and Albert Lewis at CB with Kevin Ross and Deron Cherry at Safety.

With a front seven that featured DT and Neil.

rabblerouser 01-26-2021 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 15509897)
Chris Jones is going to remove Brady's entire spinal column.

WITH HIS GIANT STICK OF DOLEMITE.


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