Is Pat following In Peyton's footsteps?
 

It's well known that during his career Manning was famous for running his own offense and having free reign to audible before the snap..such was his high iq and vast study and knowledge of defenses. Well during the superbowl we saw a historic moment on that 3rd and 15, now known as the "wasp play", which sideline footage showed Pat calling for himself. Having been so right with his call, The question is will Pat start calling his own plays more often moving forward? And will Andy give him the license to do so? I think this will be the next big step In Pat's development tbh...Brady spoke about "having the answers to all the tests"...and this is the road Pat is walking on now.

He's not following anyone's foot steps. He's carving his own MFing path.

Pat is already better at this point in his career than fivehead ever was.

How many other qb's you know did what Peyton did? It's a very unique thing.

No. Peyton was a choke artist the majority of his career, Pat is already a champion.

Nothing to do with ability...it's about calling his own plays and running his own offense.

I get what you are saying and do expect Mahomes to evolve into that "field general" with time. But, it started long before Peyton Manning, John Unitas called his own plays way back when. Obviously Mahomes a far better athlete than those two.

Well firstly thanks for reading the OP properly!!!..yeah I haven't studied Unitas much but clearly him and Manning are In the minority right? Most QB's rely on their OC throughout their career but IF Pat reaches the stage where he's a field general then it's really gonna be incredible to watch. I think Rodgers has a little bit of that In him too.

I expect to see Mahomes doing more next season when it comes to reading defenses and knowing how to deal with it. And as time goes on and experience we start seeing him more aware of the actual situation when he comes to the line. And his team getting more used to him changing things.

He seems to already be calling his own plays.

are you gay?

He only needs to do it in crunch time. Andy is the best of the best at playcalling until it's time for the cheeseburgers to try and escape his body, which is usually the 4th quarter. Pat will call his own shots when he needs to. We have arguably the best coaching staff in the NFL right now.

one SB win with a talented mobile QB.
will he be worth anything as he ages? will he reach 4 SBs?
probably not.

kill yourself

Once in awhile somebody comes a long who is just different, unique, ya know....

Elvis
Cassius Clay
The Beatles
Frank Sinatra

etc...

All an original a never seen before or after talent. We have that with this kid and it's real easy to see, this is without question the most talented/gifted QB we have ever seen, now obviously talking SB's is a team thing so there is more to it than just a QB.

I have seen people with a lost for words over his talent, seen......ah....well.....amazing, simply something else. I have never seen anyone like him before and I've seen them all since Johnny U. It really is similiar to.....

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jeez dude. he's just a jock who runs to a sideline and throws. Weve seen that from multiple QBs for 40 years. Never before seen? meh, seen plenty.



look, point blank, he wont be the Next Manning Or what ever. KC might get another down the line,maybe. This was just the book end of Missouri getting 3 championships in 3 sports.
Might get quite a few playoff appearances like Seattle Seahawks.
i'm 54 ,Watched sports a long time. Mahomes wont be the next nfl demi god, Favre/Manning/Elway, what ever. Just another successful at one time, jock.
Enjoy SB 54! probably gonna be a long ass time before another one.
a season of coming from behind in 3 playoff games in a row, is never happening again. it was a magical year. Its now over.

Let's revisit that post a year from now, gonna be funny watching you.....ok ok ok the kid is special.

Who the heck is this guy?

But the defense was only rushing 2, sometimes only 1.

2 years isnt enough either. Gonna have to wait 5 to 10 years to say anything.
right now he's nothing more than a step below Russell Wilson

Clearly this Carlos dude is either a troll or the biggest idiot this board has ever seen which would be majorly impressive. Since I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a level of idiocy so acute, I’m going to go with just a plain, ol’ troll. Ignore and move on.

[QUOTE=CarlosCarson88;14802638]2 years isnt enough either. Gonna have to wait 5 to 10 years to say anything.
right now he's nothing more than a step below Russell Wilson[/QUOTE TROLL

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**** off knowmo

Its going take 5 years before Patrick Mahomes II amass the same amount of interceptions Peyton Manning had his first season.

This. Knowmo is such a pussy. Broncos fan, Tightens Fan, Houston fan. Hating ass troll is what he is.

What banned Patriot mult are you?

Hopefully wins more than 2 rings.

Andy isn’t ever going to relinquish play calling. He is collaborative and clearly Mahomes has significant input and influence. But him just jogging out there and calling plays on the fly won’t happen under Reid. (And doesn’t need to.)

Why not? Imo this is all part of Pat's journey to possibly being the goat. IF his knowledge bank is so full that he's able to run the offense on his own then it would be epic for this team imo. Andy would obviously still be a huge part of the gane planning and be able to have his say but giving Pat free reign would be a huge step In his development imo. And the fact that Pat is already calling plays means it's only a matter of time before this becomes a reality because he's only gonna learn more as he moves forward.

Manning was 31 when he won his first Super Bowl. Pat was 24.

die

LOL - you aren’t even trying hard to hide your trolling. Do better

Mahomes will continue to show how much Manning is overrated. He doesn't need pick plays and enhancers to win.

Jesus.

You seem to lack Chief fan understanding. Trollishness

Brah, do you even watch football? Lamar hasn't even been to s Super Bowl yet. Come on man. Do better.

LMAO Hey, it's in your face blatant but that's a pretty good troll job

Thumbs down posts so they're eventually hidden.

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He also didn't need a decade to win a super bowl...

Problem is we saw a number of instances where Manning got his butt kicked by the likes of Belichick & Carroll.

No he is not but you are following in DeBerg's footsteps.........

Burn this thread with CoronAIDS. Brittany will not get HGH and Pat's forehead won't grow 8" over the course of his career.

Today maybe. Lenny Dawson called his own plays frequently.

There are fans out there that actually think that just because Lamar Jackson won the MVP for the season he is "arguably" better than Mahomes. To use the words of Travis Kelce Pshhhhhhh Psshhhh Psshhhhhh

That's not his posting style. Sounds more like Kranz.

Jackson is 0-2 against Mahomes as well.

I think he absolutely has the mind of Manning, the desire of Brady, and the physical talents of Rodgers.

He's going to be remembered as the greatest QB to ever play. There won't be a single player who will have a trait he doesn't possess.

Oh but but but butt that was played at Arrowhead wait till they play in Baltimore next year



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Peyton who?

It seems to me that this gets over-looked by the pundits. Mahomes is a student of the game. When a defense does beat him on a series of downs or even a quarter, he sits with Andy and they dissect what they are doing, then they change the playcalling mid-game.

You just can't beat this guy with the same stuff, he remembers it. I think this is what made Manning so dangerous and frustrating to play against.

Exactly.

Manning never won a championship because of his value as a passer.

He held those 2 championship teams back, if anything.

Peyton Manning has more one-and-done playoff appearances than in QB in NFL history. So far, Mahomes has never been one and done as a starter.

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Pat blazes his own trail he damn sure ain’t following Peyton or anyone else

lol I hate Pats as well. It has nothing to do with picking sides.
Its the understanding how the nfl works.
Andy took this long to get "one". He isnt all the sudden going on a decade dynasty run.

Choke artists dont go to 4 super bowls. Vinnie Testaverde, Mark Sanchez...someone like that. Those are choke artists.

OP what the hell are you thinking, are you an absolute moron? A total idiot? What year did Manning get his first ring? 9th or 11th? Manning is a few forehead inches way from being taken to Area 51 for testing. Mahomes is MVP and Superbowl winner and Superbowl MVP in his 3rd year. Manning was a total shitshow his first year. Manning can't sniff Mahomes jockstrap. Manning is a joke-telling pizza-selling Brad Paisley compatriot - Mahomes is chugging beers and going to Disney World. **** you.

So you want Pat to go to the donks and win?

Another UQuhieffyBurger production.

Jesus H Christ on a crutch, this may be the worst thread you've ever posted. Which means it may be the single worst thread ever.

EVER.

Well, he does have an androgynous name like Peyton, if you just say Pat.
But I doubt many babies will be named Pat because of him. As millions of male and female children have been named Peyton. I find that lame and disturbing anyway.

Smh it really blows my mind when I see just how DUMB some folks are around here...it really does.

Lol is this LOSER talking about "threads" when he started the dumbest thread in CP history about Andy Reid? BWAHAHAHA ROFL

Hopefully that’ll be Pats next step. I think he could start doing it in hurry up situations. I also like for him to start doing the other Peyton and Rodgers thing and catch the defense rotating out players and catch them with the 12 men on the field penalties.

Great points and they did actually run a hurry up offense after the 3rd and 15, right? He's a master at making the dedense jump early as well so yes, catching them rotating is the next step.

Manning used to drive me crazy- he would rush them to the line and then spend the entire time changing the play, making the defense stay in its stance until finally calling for the snap as the clock was almost to zero. This shit just mentally wears out a D.

Obviously you haven't paid any attention to recent events in the AFC. First, the Patriot dominance is over. Not only in the AFC, but also in their own division. Second, the top AFC teams that are left in the AFC aren't going to be serious contenders against the Chiefs for some time to come. So the Chiefs have a fairly clear path to the Super Bowl for the next 4-6 years at a minimum. Given Mahomes' statistical scoring efficiency in the playoffs so far, it's mathematically likely we'll win at least 1 if not 2 more Super bowls in that frame. If he appears in just one more Super bowl he's a lock for the HOF. Dipstick.


He's already better than Favre, and will likely surpass Elway statistically, as well as nearly every other QB in NFL history.

But even if he doesn't stick around long enough to own every major QB stat, he's still permanently changed how the NFL looks at QBs.

He's the NFL version of Michael Jordan; he's broken the mold of what a QB should play like forever.

The mere fact that you can't understand what Mahomes has done in his short career makes you an idiot of epic proportions.

False.

Jim Kelly says hello. 4 straight SB losses.

Jim Kelly went to and lost four consecutive Super Bowls.

Fran Tarkenton went to three Super Bowls, and obviously lost all three of them. I thought you said you were 54 and along-time sports follower?

. Reaching the SB means= not a choke artist over the body of a career. These players are remembered for being winners. Losers don't reach super bowls.

Jim Kelly,Fran Tarkenton, Peyton Manning are professional winners in postseason play.
You can't reach a SB being a choke artist.

You're counting a hell of alot of chickens that may never hatch.

Lol he's not remotely the nfl Michael Jordan and he's not the first either. Randall Cunningham, Vick etc. Nothing new under the sun.
I think he's athletic. I think he's entertaining. Im glad KC got one!
But I doubt any of your hyperbole comes to pass.

This ****ing idiot is a DC turd. "Look how long I've lived! That makes me smart and wise! I'm old and know many things! You are all naive!"

Of all the thumbs down posts, this one pisses me off the most.

**** this CarlosCarson dipshit with AIDS.

If Ford doesn't line up offside, Mahomes could be 2 for 2 in Super Bowl titles. Hell, I will go one further. If Andy would have stayed with Mahomes in the playoffs following his first start in Denver, you just never know. Might have been 3 for 3. Look at how he opened the first 4 games of season 2. We were supposed to lose to San Diego, to Pittsburgh, to San Francisco, to Denver, and to Jacksonville. He lit four of those teams up, and balled out in the 4th quarter in Denver.

I want to disagree because it sounds absurd, but I can't. Chiefs would have beaten the Rams last year for sure.

It does sound absurd, and we will never know. One thing, we would still have Bob as our DC. And if you really look at that 2nd pass batted down by Chris Jones on 2nd down right after we had pulled back to 21-17 in the Super Bowl, it looks like that play is all on Spags and not Jones. Everyone on the 49ers is lined up to the right side of the formation, or tight on the left side. Suggs is our LDE, and drops into pass coverage. Jones is lined up on our right side, and slides over to Suggs's spot, and puts his hands up into what I am sure is the hot read for Jimmy G based on what he read at the snap. Looks much more like Spags making a great play, and everyone just doing their job including Jones.

It took Manning a really long time to beat Brady and get his first ring. Mahomes is already done that.

No Mahomes is not gonna hang out with a racist and shill his pizzas. And he's not gonna scream omaha like a god damned reerun.