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MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04-23-2019 11:30 AM

Frank Clark to KC!
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sources: The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Seahawks?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Seahawks</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> are deep in talks on a trade to send star Frank Clark to KC. The compensation would include a 1st rounder, a 2020 2nd rounder and a swap of mid-rounders. To complete it, the franchise tagged player and Chiefs must hammer out a deal.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1120741423890956289?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Prison Bitch 04-23-2019 11:31 AM

Ugh

Kiimo 04-23-2019 11:32 AM

No way.

Iconic 04-23-2019 11:32 AM

I've completely lost all faith in Veach if this happens. What a ****ing joke.

KCrockaholic 04-23-2019 11:33 AM

Really....

O.city 04-23-2019 11:33 AM

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Strongside 04-23-2019 11:33 AM

Awful from a compensation perspective. Our D Line will be ridiculous but this secondary still needs help in a bad way.

BigRedChief 04-23-2019 11:34 AM

Why did this need another thread? It’s not a done deal. It’s a very misleading thread title.

redfan 04-23-2019 11:34 AM

WTF

stumppy 04-23-2019 11:34 AM

Have we banned this piece of shit yet for false thread titles!!?

ChiefBlueCFC 04-23-2019 11:34 AM

ugh please fall apart

O.city 04-23-2019 11:34 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A) The Chiefs need an edge rusher desperately after losing Houston and Ford. And Clark’s name had been circled and Veach wanted to be aggressive this offseason.<br>B) The Chiefs have a 1st and two 2nd round picks this year and next year. <a href="https://t.co/Ke0EsJuo9A">https://t.co/Ke0EsJuo9A</a></p>&mdash; James Palmer (@JamesPalmerTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/JamesPalmerTV/status/1120742366598631426?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Kiimo 04-23-2019 11:35 AM

I really hope a good corner and a good safety fall to the end of the 2nd round.

Otherwise we're ****ed.

The Franchise 04-23-2019 11:35 AM

Not a fan of giving up multiple picks. ****.

el borracho 04-23-2019 11:35 AM

Veach’s credibility continues to shrink in my eyes.

Munson 04-23-2019 11:36 AM

A 1st and a 2nd is way too much. :cuss:

This piece of shit had better be a perennial All Pro DE without any off-the-field issues while in KC.

Kiimo 04-23-2019 11:36 AM

Not a fan of giving up 29 regardless of anything else.

O.city 04-23-2019 11:36 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Seahawks agreed to trade their franchise player, DE Frank Clark, to the Kansas City Chiefs for a 2019 first-round pick, a 2020 second-round pick and an exchange of third-round picks this year, per league sources.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1120743061838024704?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Chris Meck 04-23-2019 11:36 AM

Well. I hope they've done their due diligence on his background. If he's a problem that really ****s us.

If he's not, this is probably a top ten defense.

Rappaport says-It's happening.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04-23-2019 11:37 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Seahawks agreed to trade their franchise player, DE Frank Clark, to the Kansas City Chiefs for a 2019 first-round pick, a 2020 second-round pick and an exchange of third-round picks this year, per league sources.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1120743061838024704?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

TribalElder 04-23-2019 11:37 AM

giving up that much is ****ing stupid as hell

Iconic 04-23-2019 11:37 AM

Good luck without your first, extra second, and added 20m AAV contract.

Veach is literal trash in trade negotiations.

O.city 04-23-2019 11:37 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Frank Clark and Chiefs now will finalize their long-term deal. Chiefs have two second-round picks in 2020 - theirs and the one they acquired from SF for Dee Ford. They will retain the better of the 2’s, and the lower one will go to Seattle as part of the trade for Frank Clark.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1120743169228984320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Chris Meck 04-23-2019 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 14221276)
Good luck without your first, extra second, and added 20m AAV contract.

Veach is literal trash in trade negotiations.

It's a 2020 2nd. It's basically Dee Ford's pick. (actually not-it's the lowest, which will be KC's)

AND we swap 3rds, so we move WAY up in the 3rd.

I don't hate it at all.

My ONLY concern is off the field issues.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04-23-2019 11:38 AM

Can we have Dorsey back

CasselGotPeedOn 04-23-2019 11:38 AM

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The Franchise 04-23-2019 11:38 AM

We moved from 94 to 82 in the third round.

So we've got:

Frank Clark, DE
#61
#63
#82

TribalElder 04-23-2019 11:38 AM

the more you look at this the more awful it gets

gonna have to pay the guy a shitload
giving up 3 draft spots, 2 completely

dumb as hell

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04-23-2019 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14221283)
We moved from 94 to 82 in the third round.

So we've got:

Frank Clark, DE
#61
#63
#82

Honestly that’s a good deal

Sassy Squatch 04-23-2019 11:39 AM

Thursday is free now, so that's nice.

Mecca 04-23-2019 11:39 AM

If they value pass rusher that high....they basically gave up 29 where they wouldn't get a pass rusher and the Ford pick...

It's a better player than Ford...

stumppy 04-23-2019 11:40 AM

Rapparepoter just said it is in fact happening.

The Franchise 04-23-2019 11:40 AM

The ONLY way that I'm good with this move is if he gets the same structure of a deal that Dallas gave Demarcus Lawrence. Basically a 3 year deal with an out after year 3.

Iconic 04-23-2019 11:40 AM

****ing fleeced by a team that didn't even have any leverage to begin with.

Are you ****ing kidding me? Is Frank dipshit Clark worth a potential Greedy Williams, Jachai Polite, and whoever the **** you could get under 20m AAV?

Really?

DJ's left nut 04-23-2019 11:40 AM

I'm in Mexico and done further considering this, but Veach should be fired. Twice.

This is asinine.

Titty Meat 04-23-2019 11:40 AM

Veach is an idiot

dlphg9 04-23-2019 11:40 AM

Veach is a ****ing joke. Jesus Christ what a shit ass trade.

Steron 04-23-2019 11:40 AM

He's going to get what? 90 million? Where does that leave Chris Jones? And what about the secondary. I'm not a fan of this move.

The Franchise 04-23-2019 11:41 AM

This ****er better hit at least 15 sacks next season.

CasselGotPeedOn 04-23-2019 11:41 AM

I guess we could still have a package to trade back into the first if someone we like starts to drop...

Iconic 04-23-2019 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14221299)
I'm in Mexico and done further considering this, but Veach should be fired. Twice.

This is asinine.

this

comochiefsfan 04-23-2019 11:41 AM

We only get a 2nd round pick for Ford, yet we have to give a first AND a second round pick for Clark?

Good god Veach...

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04-23-2019 11:41 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Frank Clark and Chiefs now will finalize their long-term deal. Chiefs have two second-round picks in 2020 - theirs and the one they acquired from SF for Dee Ford. They will retain the better of the 2’s, and the lower one will go to Seattle as part of the trade for Frank Clark.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1120743169228984320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ChiliConCarnage 04-23-2019 11:41 AM

hmmm :\ I didn't think we'd move the first rounder. It's probably going to be a giant contract

Munson 04-23-2019 11:42 AM

Veach goes 2 years in a row without a 1st round pick.

He had no say in losing the 2018 pick, but he got hosed in 2019.

smithandrew051 04-23-2019 11:42 AM

I like getting him, but I hate what we’re giving up. A 1st round pick alone would’ve been hard to swallow, but understandable.

The shitty thing is that there’s no way this will be a bad trade for Seattle. It can only be a bad trade for us.

Rain Man 04-23-2019 11:42 AM

I'm a big Frank Clark fan, but not for that price. How do we only get a second for Dee Ford if Clark's worth that much more?

dlphg9 04-23-2019 11:42 AM

Would rather have Ford or Houston. I hate BV

tk13 04-23-2019 11:42 AM

Well I guess no one will be able to accuse Veach of sitting on his hands and not going for it.

Dayze 04-23-2019 11:42 AM

Uhhhgh.

comochiefsfan 04-23-2019 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steron (Post 14221302)
He's going to get what? 90 million? Where does that leave Chris Jones? And what about the secondary. I'm not a fan of this move.

This has to mean they aren’t optimistic on Tyreek right? We’re going to pay Jones and Mahomes and now with the Clark contract on the books, I don’t see where the room to pay Hill is.

Pitt Gorilla 04-23-2019 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14221292)
If they value pass rusher that high....they basically gave up 29 where they wouldn't get a pass rusher and the Ford pick...

It's a better player than Ford...

How much more will he have to be paid than Ford?

O.city 04-23-2019 11:42 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Full trade details:<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Seahawks?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Seahawks</a> get:<br>- Pick No. 29 pick on Thursday<br>- Pick No. 93 on Friday<br>- 2020 2nd round pick<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> get:<br>- DE Frank Clark<br>- Pick No. 85 on Friday</p>&mdash; NFL Update (@MySportsUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1120744105066344448?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Perineum Ripper 04-23-2019 11:43 AM

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Chris Meck 04-23-2019 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 14221287)
the more you look at this the more awful it gets

gonna have to pay the guy a shitload
giving up 3 draft spots, 2 completely

dumb as hell


uhh...what?

We move up in the 3rd to #85.
We give up our 2020 2nd.
We give up #29.
We still have #61, #63, #85 in the first 100 picks.

We have the cap space. he's 26 years old. 13 sacks last year?

I have real concerns over off the field issues, but there's nothing else here to be bummed about.

EMAW24 04-23-2019 11:43 AM

I love when people get mad about adding good football players to play football for the Kansas City Chiefs.

They gave up pick 29 and pick 62 next season.

DJ's left nut 04-23-2019 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14221288)
Honestly that’s a good deal

That's a raping and you're a reerun.

This is seriously fireable. It's a panic move from a GM that has shown himself increasingly prone to it.

Hes a hell of a scout and a trash general manager. We have a 1 year window now. Thanks dipshit.

Titty Meat 04-23-2019 11:44 AM

Brett Reach

stumppy 04-23-2019 11:44 AM

It works for me. Especially the pick we got for Ford.

This defense just moved up the ladder.

T-post Tom 04-23-2019 11:44 AM

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POND_OF_RED 04-23-2019 11:45 AM

So we’re trading for domestic abusers now. Really wish this team would figure out where there line is with players and character issues

Chief Roundup 04-23-2019 11:45 AM

**** that kind of compensation.

The Franchise 04-23-2019 11:45 AM

It's going to look real ****ing stupid if an edge rusher falls close to pick #29.

kcxiv 04-23-2019 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14221327)
That's a raping and you're a reerun.

This is seriously fireable. It's a panic move from a GM that has shown himself increasingly prone to it.

Hes a hell of a scout and a trash general manager. We have a 1 year window now. Thanks dipshit.

when you have an elite QB, you do not have a 1 year window! sorry, i cant buy that for a second! Do i like the trade right now? no! but 1 year window? nope, not seeing it.

chiefzilla1501 04-23-2019 11:45 AM

So basically we traded Dee Ford, $8m or so, and a first round pick for frank Clark.

I really really do not like this.

Fish 04-23-2019 11:45 AM

Thursday's draft party is gonna be lit now...

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04-23-2019 11:45 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> need to work out a long-term deal with <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Seahawks?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Seahawks</a> pass-rusher Frank Clark, who also needs to pass a physical for this trade to be official. At the least, KC understands where the Clark deal will likely come in and it is workable. Must be done before the draft</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1120745074839650305?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Chris Meck 04-23-2019 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 14221311)
I'm a big Frank Clark fan, but not for that price. How do we only get a second for Dee Ford if Clark's worth that much more?

maybe because he actually plays full seasons and isn't a liability against the run.
Oh, and he's almost 3 years younger.

farmerchief 04-23-2019 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14221274)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Seahawks agreed to trade their franchise player, DE Frank Clark, to the Kansas City Chiefs for a 2019 first-round pick, a 2020 second-round pick and an exchange of third-round picks this year, per league sources.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1120743061838024704?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Seems like quite a bit to trade, but guess it depends on what his contract is? Id rather have just kept our picks, and drafted where we were at, but, guess thats why Im not the GM of the Chiefs!:hmmm:

Mecca 04-23-2019 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 14221306)
We only get a 2nd round pick for Ford, yet we have to give a first AND a second round pick for Clark?

Good god Veach...

Frank Clark is viewed as a much better player than Ford is by the entire NFL...if Clark is a B+ Ford is like a C.

comochiefsfan 04-23-2019 11:46 AM

I just don’t understand how we let Seattle fleece us this bad. They had no leverage. That lack of leverage is the exact reason we were only able to get a second for Ford. So we just walk in and bend over for Seattle? How stupid.

saphojunkie 04-23-2019 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14221327)
That's a raping and you're a reerun.

This is seriously fireable. It's a panic move from a GM that has shown himself increasingly prone to it.

Hes a hell of a scout and a trash general manager. We have a 1 year window now. Thanks dipshit.

Settle down

stumppy 04-23-2019 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14221327)
That's a raping and you're a reerun.

This is seriously fireable. It's a panic move from a GM that has shown himself increasingly prone to it.

Hes a hell of a scout and a trash general manager. We have a 1 year window now. Thanks dipshit.

Are you kidding me. That's ridiculous.

Beef Supreme 04-23-2019 11:46 AM

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Jerm 04-23-2019 11:46 AM

Veach is gonna trade back into the 1st isn't he....

kcxiv 04-23-2019 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14221333)
It's going to look real ****ing stupid if an edge rusher falls close to pick #29.

That edge rusher would have to be a hit though! Just because one falls, doesnt mean he's going to be good at the NFL level.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04-23-2019 11:47 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For comparison&#39;s sake – Dee Ford put up just 1 season of 56 or more pressures (2018) and had only 1 season (also 2018) with a higher overall grade than Frank Clark&#39;s career-low overall grade of 66.1.</p>&mdash; Pro Football Focus (@PFF) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1120743079487660038?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

stumppy 04-23-2019 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14221339)
maybe because he actually plays full seasons and isn't a liability against the run.
Oh, and he's almost 3 years younger.

Ding ding ding...winner winner chicken dinner!

ChiefBlueCFC 04-23-2019 11:47 AM

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MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04-23-2019 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 14221348)
Veach is gonna trade back into the 1st isn't he....

You already know lol. We gonna trade our first next year?


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