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staylor26 03-16-2019 07:58 AM

Let’s talk WR’s
 
Looks like we’ll probably be taking one sometime in the first 2 days.

Guys I like:

A.J. Brown
Deebo Samuel
Andy Isabella
Parris Campbell
Mecole Hardman
J.J. Arcega-Whiteside

Chief Northman 03-16-2019 08:54 AM

If you are indeed alluding to Mr. Hill’s troubles and a potential replacement, I think the guy you target for a similar skill set is Parris Campbell. He might require a late-first, early 2nd round investment.

RunKC 03-16-2019 11:12 AM

May not be popular, but I would be looking for a WR and TE with one of those 2nd’s and our 3rd.

staylor26 03-16-2019 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14162736)
May not be popular, but I would be looking for a WR and TE with one of those 2nd’s and our 3rd.

I’m good with that if we are either signing Zach Brown or starting Hitchens at MLB and DOD at WLB.

CB, DE, WR, and TE.

If not, and Ragland will be penciled in as the starting MLB going into the draft, I’m likely waiting till day 3 to take a TE.

The Franchise 03-16-2019 11:39 AM

Boykin out of ND.

prhom 03-18-2019 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14162736)
May not be popular, but I would be looking for a WR and TE with one of those 2nd’s and our 3rd.

This is where my head is right now. I know it’s hard to ignore a defense that was so awful, but if we aren’t careful we will be putting Pat out there with a bunch of scrubs come playoff time. It’s not hard to imagine a scenario where Watkins and Kelce are both dinged while Hill is suspended or cut. We would be left with precisely zero weapons on offense. We need to acquire weapons on offense for Pat. I feel confident we will get a WR, TE and RB in this draft and two of those will be early picks.

htismaqe 03-18-2019 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14162787)
Boykin out of ND.

I like him a lot.

staylor26 03-19-2019 05:57 AM

If we lose Hill, and Hollywood Brown falls to 29, you take him IMO

htismaqe 03-19-2019 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14167617)
If we lose Hill, and Hollywood Brown falls to 29, you take him IMO

The Hill stuff won't be resolved before the draft - that would be my guess.

RunKC 03-19-2019 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14167617)
If we lose Hill, and Hollywood Brown falls to 29, you take him IMO

**** no. Dude just had a lisfranc.

Nope nope nope

BryanBusby 03-19-2019 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14167647)
**** no. Dude just had a lisfranc.

Nope nope nope

Yep. Hard pass.

Either Campbell in the first or deebs in the 2nd

Redbled 03-19-2019 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by prhom (Post 14167397)
This is where my head is right now. I know it’s hard to ignore a defense that was so awful, but if we aren’t careful we will be putting Pat out there with a bunch of scrubs come playoff time. It’s not hard to imagine a scenario where Watkins and Kelce are both dinged while Hill is suspended or cut. We would be left with precisely zero weapons on offense. We need to acquire weapons on offense for Pat. I feel confident we will get a WR, TE and RB in this draft and two of those will be early picks.


100 percent this.

kccrow 03-19-2019 11:35 PM

Gary Jennings is really underrated IMO. Would like him round 3 if that pick isn't used in a move up.

CoMoChief 03-19-2019 11:38 PM

Isabella would go apeshit in the slot, in this offense.

Mother****erJones 03-20-2019 07:11 AM

Round 2 is my sweet spot for one. I’d love Andy Isabella from UMass

htismaqe 03-20-2019 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 14169964)
Round 2 is my sweet spot for one. I’d love Andy Isabella from UMass

After his combine, he probably goes higher in the 2nd than we pick, though.

Mother****erJones 03-20-2019 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 14170386)
After his combine, he probably goes higher in the 2nd than we pick, though.

Very likely but there’s a lot of good value at WR in this drafr

RunKC 03-27-2019 09:24 AM

We have been linked to Mecole Hardman. I really like him.

He’s got 4.33 speed and is pretty decent size. He’d be great Tyreek insurance.

staylor26 03-27-2019 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14182427)
We have been linked to Mecole Hardman. I really like him.

He’s got 4.33 speed and is pretty decent size. He’d be great Tyreek insurance.

Yea I said it isn’t the CP Mock thread, but he’s perfect in terms of fit and value.

RustShack 03-27-2019 08:02 PM

Hakeem Butler. Give Mahomes a star for the rest of his career.

Dante84 03-27-2019 08:36 PM

Jesus, that mecole guy would be insane in this offense

O.city 03-28-2019 08:14 AM

I like Hardman.

I'd also see if the Bengals would take a 5th for Ross.

prhom 03-29-2019 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 14183785)
Jesus, that mecole guy would be insane in this offense

Just watched a few of his highlight films. Not that I’m a talent scout, but it looked like he was really smooth changing direction and could make hard cuts without losing any speed. I wouldn’t be upset if we pick him up. The Chiefs seem to value guys who can create separation over possession type receivers. Hardman and Isabella seem to fit that mold. I’m watching the other guys listed in the OP now.

Iconic 03-30-2019 03:45 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Contested catch numbers last two seasons for every sub-4.4 WR at the combine (catches-opportunities):<br><br>Parris Campbell 9-17<br>Andy Isabella 16-46<br>Mecole Hardman 2-9<br>D.K. Metcalf 11-29<br>Terry McLaurin 13-26<br>Emanuel Hall 6-24<br>Darius Slayton 8-28</p>&mdash; Mike Renner (@PFF_Mike) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Mike/status/1112054542479302668?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 30, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Dante84 03-31-2019 10:45 AM

Just looked up Terry McLaurin, I could see him performing well in this offense.

Iconic 04-02-2019 08:29 AM

I finally got some time to sink my teeth into the WR class and I'm hyped. Lots of late round talent - speaking of which this is such a shit year to not have a 4th round pick man.

The Franchise 04-02-2019 12:49 PM

Hardman, Hurd or Boykin.

Rain Man 04-03-2019 12:10 PM

Now that I've drafted him for Cincinnati in the mock draft, I can bring up the name of Antoine Wesley. What do you guys think about him as a late-round speculative guy? Andy seems to like really tall guys with good hands, even if there are some weaknesses in other parts of his game.

Here's what the NFL says about him: https://www.nfl.com/prospects/antoin...e-5800e41887f1

O.city 04-04-2019 06:21 PM

Stumbled across Keelan Doss

Interesting guy

RunKC 04-05-2019 09:28 AM

I like Terry McLaurin a lot. He’s like a faster, bigger version of Albert Wilson.

He’d Be a great 3rd rd pick

prhom 04-05-2019 08:54 PM

Is it just me or does Boykin look awfully slow running with the ball? The highlights I was watching he got caught numerous times and just looked like he was running in sand. I think I’ll pass on that.

Chief Northman 04-05-2019 09:24 PM

Plenty of good options for what the Chiefs need (presuming Hill is available).

My favourites by average round projection:

* Not a fan of the projected 1st rounders

2) Harry, Samuel, Campbell, Isabella
3) McLaurin, Hardman
4) Sills, Jennings Jr., Boykin, Meyers
5+) Brady, Fulgham, Williams

farmerchief 04-14-2019 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 14190831)
I finally got some time to sink my teeth into the WR class and I'm hyped. Lots of late round talent - speaking of which this is such a shit year to not have a 4th round pick man.

I'd rather have, a 1,2,2,3, than a 1,2,3,4!

In58men 04-17-2019 09:29 AM

What about Stanley Morgan Jr from Nebraska?

O.city 04-17-2019 09:42 AM

They're gonna have to take a WR somewhere. Look at the roster and what could be coming up in the next year or so. Watkins and Hill could be gone, Robinson etc.

staylor26 04-17-2019 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14210482)
They're gonna have to take a WR somewhere. Look at the roster and what could be coming up in the next year or so. Watkins and Hill could be gone, Robinson etc.

Watkins and Hill could both be gone?

No way. It’s one or the other.

But yea, we need to take a WR.

O.city 04-17-2019 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14210503)
Watkins and Hill could both be gone?

No way. It’s one or the other.

But yea, we need to take a WR.

Watkins makes a lot of money and hill could be in Shawshank or something.

The Franchise 04-17-2019 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14210543)
Watkins makes a lot of money and hill could be in Shawshank or something.

If Hill gets cut or traded.....that pretty much cements Watkins staying on this team.

kcclone 04-17-2019 04:52 PM

I never thought I would be ok with drafting offense in the 1st round, but I've changed my mind. I would actually like to see us trade up to get in position to grab Hockenson.

-He's virtually guaranteed to be a high level (pro-bowl caliber) player by year 2-3.
-He's physically and mentally ready to play a fair amount year 1 (not always the case with some rookies).
-Hockenson is better in both the run game AND as a pass catching option than WR3 is most likely.
-You're going to have to get Kelce's replacement eventually (next 1-2 years).
-It would allow us to play a lot of 2 TE sets, but not give up explosive plays in the passing game.
-Defenses would still have to stay in Nickel/Dime to handle us even with 2 TE's, which would allow us to work some more run plays against smaller D sets (mismatch advantage: KC).
-Would be insurance for the Hill situation

Chris Meck 04-17-2019 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14210543)
Watkins makes a lot of money and hill could be in Shawshank or something.


At the very least, even if Hill gets no charges pressed, there is real doubt now that he's a ticking time-bomb. You need to have a plan 'b'. Just in case.

Watkins is great, but becomes super expensive and is hurt a lot.

D-Rob is probably a #3. Solid, nice player, but not enough.

We need a replacement for either Hill/Watkins; and it's possible that we go stretches without either.

you could make an argument that the 'floor' at the WR position is lower than any other position group on the team at the moment. Ceiling is second only to QB, but man; if Hill's in jail or suspended we're a Watkins injury away from D-Rob, Pringle, and Dieter.

BryanBusby 04-17-2019 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14211296)
If Hill gets cut or traded.....that pretty much cements Watkins staying on this team.

Yeah, but I think it'd at least be a bit of a surprise if anything is coming out of that investigation.

staylor26 04-17-2019 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14211352)
Yeah, but I think it'd at least be a bit of a surprise if anything is coming out of that investigation.

Yea, if they had something, I think we’d know it by now.

RunKC 04-17-2019 07:51 PM

Man Miles Boykin seems so appealing. He would ball out in this offense

GloucesterChief 04-17-2019 09:37 PM

If you have the change to get Butler, you get Butler.

Chris Meck 04-17-2019 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14211400)
Yea, if they had something, I think we’d know it by now.

that's probably true. Probably.

I don't know if I want to bet the season on it.

D-Rob/Dieter/Pringle.

staylor26 04-18-2019 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14211870)
that's probably true. Probably.

I don't know if I want to bet the season on it.

D-Rob/Dieter/Pringle.

Oh believe me I’d still draft a WR anyways.

Matter of fact, I’d probably take one almost every year with a QB like Pat.

O.city 04-18-2019 07:24 AM

I just don't know that Hill is here next year even if he's cleared. I hope he is but who the hell knows.

BryanBusby 04-18-2019 07:58 AM

He will get an extension months after a clearing announcement happens, if it does.

Dante84 05-02-2019 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 14183785)
Jesus, that mecole guy would be insane in this offense

‘sup


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