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Tribal Warfare 10-30-2020 08:56 PM

Joe Montana Regrets Retiring After 1994
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Former Chiefs QB Joe Montana regrets retiring following 1994 season<a href="https://t.co/EIaxPZPuyS">https://t.co/EIaxPZPuyS</a></p>&mdash; Chiefs Wire (@TheChiefsWire) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheChiefsWire/status/1322357624025739264?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 31, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

displacedinMN 10-30-2020 08:57 PM

OK. But maybe it was time.

Deberg_1990 10-30-2020 09:06 PM

He was physically done. The game wasn’t the same back then. QBs weren’t as protected.

suzzer99 10-30-2020 09:09 PM

That 1995 team could have won it all with Joe. Best Chiefs defensive team I ever saw.

dannybcaitlyn 10-30-2020 09:09 PM

Great quarterback but he was done. His elbow was the size of a softball.

TomBarndtsTwin 10-30-2020 09:10 PM

His body was clearly done. He wouldn’t have made it through half the 95 season.

Deberg_1990 10-30-2020 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 15287053)
His body was clearly done. He wouldn’t have made it through half the 95 season.

He could barely make it thru 1994. Bono started 2-3 games if I remember right?

lcarus 10-30-2020 09:23 PM

If Joe was the guy who ran that 74 yard bootleg against Arizona he would've blown both achilles and Daniel Jones'd it. Valerio would've had to carry him to the end zone.

Frazod 10-30-2020 09:25 PM

I would have taken broke dick Joe over healthy Bono.

lewdog 10-30-2020 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 15287065)
I would have taken broke dick Joe over healthy Bono.

This all ****ing day.

Coach 10-30-2020 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 15287065)
I would have taken broke dick Joe over healthy Bono.

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KChiefs1 10-30-2020 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 15287053)
His body was clearly done. He wouldn’t have made it through half the 95 season.


Saved him for the playoffs.

I don’t think that Colts playoff game would have turned out the way it did.

Hog's Gone Fishin 10-30-2020 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dannybcaitlyn (Post 15287051)
Great quarterback but he was done. His elbow was the size of a softball.

So it still had room to grow.

Red Dawg 10-30-2020 10:39 PM

He was washed.

vonBobo 10-30-2020 10:46 PM

That concussion was an unfortunate, but obvious, way to go out.

KChiefs1 10-30-2020 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by vonBobo (Post 15287143)
That concussion was an unfortunate, but obvious, way to go out.


That was in January of 1994.

Tribal Warfare 10-30-2020 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 15287065)
I would have taken broke dick Joe over healthy Bono.

and Grbac after that

Frazod 10-31-2020 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15287148)
That was in January of 1994.

That was such a shitty day. I woke up just knowing that the Super Bowl would be San Francisco v. Kansas City; Young v. Montana; the greatest grudge match ever.

Instead we got ****ing Buffalo and Dallas.

:Lin:

chinaski 10-31-2020 01:41 AM

We sign this piece of shit yet?

BigRedChief 10-31-2020 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 15287065)
I would have taken broke dick Joe over healthy Bono.

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 15287066)
This all ****ing day.

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 15287082)

No shit. It couldn't have turned out worse. A wasted season of probably the best defense we ever had.

Spott 10-31-2020 06:07 AM

If only that kicker would have retired after the 94 season.

Flying High D 10-31-2020 06:08 AM

With somebody retiring the Chiefs didn’t get the full value of what they traded for. He signed a 3 year contract and retired after 2. **** that quitter.

Otter 10-31-2020 06:14 AM

No one rallied the troops like Joe.

ChiefsCountry 10-31-2020 06:45 AM

Still wouldn't have beat the Cowboys and your foolish if you think other wise.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 10-31-2020 07:04 AM

26 years ago some of your fathers should have visited a different whore

displacedinMN 10-31-2020 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Spott (Post 15287305)
If only that kicker would have retired after the 94 season.

Would still punch him to this day.

DJJasonp 10-31-2020 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 15287325)
Still wouldn't have beat the Cowboys and your foolish if you think other wise.

didnt the chiefs give the cowboys all they could handle (at their house) that season?

It was a 12 point loss at the end of the day, but the chiefs had a turnover and outgained the cowboys 334-293.

Lake Dawson actually beat Deion for a TD in that game.

Emmit was 18 for 56 yards.

displacedinMN 10-31-2020 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DJJasonp (Post 15287365)
didnt the chiefs give the cowboys all they could handle (at their house) that season?

It was a 12 point loss at the end of the day, but the chiefs had a turnover and outgained the cowboys 334-293.

Lake Dawson actually beat Deion for a TD in that game.

Emmit was 18 for 56 yards.

yup. One turnover was the difference in that game.

Deberg_1990 10-31-2020 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DJJasonp (Post 15287365)
didnt the chiefs give the cowboys all they could handle (at their house) that season?

It was a 12 point loss at the end of the day, but the chiefs had a turnover and outgained the cowboys 334-293.

Lake Dawson actually beat Deion for a TD in that game.

Emmit was 18 for 56 yards.

That was 95 on Thanksgiving Day. And the Chiefs were not beating the Cowboys during that era.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...9511230dal.htm

crispystl 10-31-2020 07:58 AM

Joe Montana Regrets Retiring After 1994
 
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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15287060)
He could barely make it thru 1994. Bono started 2-3 games if I remember right?


Yeah Joe was so old he pulled his hammy on a routine scramble to the sideline IIRC. I loved Montana though.


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nychief 10-31-2020 08:50 AM

His brain was mashed potatoes by the end... did you ever see him try to be a broadcaster afterward? He could hardly string two sentences together.

Demonpenz 10-31-2020 09:07 AM

I will always cherrish his football game on sega cd

KChiefs1 10-31-2020 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15287398)
That was 95 on Thanksgiving Day. And the Chiefs were not beating the Cowboys during that era.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...9511230dal.htm

You obviously didn't watch the game.

Spott 10-31-2020 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15287485)
You obviously didn't watch the game.

We had them on the ropes that game until that fumble in the red zone. Iirc, Bono lost it on a strip sack after a missed block by one of our RB’s.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-31-2020 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Spott (Post 15287493)
We had them on the ropes that game until that fumble in the red zone.

Not really. The Cowboys went down and scored with ease on the first drive (yes, Irvin pushed off of Dale Carter), but the Cowboys were firmly in control of that game at all points.

keg in kc 10-31-2020 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 15287050)
That 1995 team could have won it all with Joe. Best Chiefs defensive team I ever saw.

Yeah, but Marty was still the head coach. Not a chance.

Bob Dole 10-31-2020 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Otter (Post 15287309)
No one rallied the troops like Joe.

You should check out this Mahomes kid.

poolboy 10-31-2020 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 15287050)
That 1995 team could have won it all with Joe. Best Chiefs defensive team I ever saw.

I agree, way better rushing offense too. I think 95 might have been the year

wazu 10-31-2020 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 15287065)
I would have taken broke dick Joe over healthy Bono.

Of course, but it would have been a bad choice for him.

suzzer99 10-31-2020 11:51 AM

Montana had the Cowboys number. We'd have won.

He should have just come out of retirement mid-season when we were 7-1.

Frazod 10-31-2020 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by nychief (Post 15287458)
His brain was mashed potatoes by the end... did you ever see him try to be a broadcaster afterward? He could hardly string two sentences together.

I don't think that doesn't have anything to do with it. Some people just aren't cut out to be broadcasters. It's not like every great athlete becomes a media guy.

Megatron96 10-31-2020 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 15287220)
That was such a shitty day. I woke up just knowing that the Super Bowl would be San Francisco v. Kansas City; Young v. Montana; the greatest grudge match ever.

Instead we got ****ing Buffalo and Dallas.

:Lin:

Worst part about it was that w probably would've won that match-up. We were that close.

Frazod 10-31-2020 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15287688)
Worst part about it was that w probably would've won that match-up. We were that close.

The Chiefs had absolutely pisspounded Buffalo earlier in the season, too. :banghead:

scho63 10-31-2020 01:10 PM

One big hit in 1995 might have put him away for good.

That hit he took in Buffalo was scary.

SuperBowl4 10-31-2020 02:48 PM

Joe doesn't/didn't play well in COLD weather.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-31-2020 03:04 PM

There is a reason why SI ran a cover saying Dallas-SF was the real Super Bowl. The top of the NFC was in a different class then. Pittsburgh was a good team and they were throttled by the '95 Cowboys.

The best chance the Chiefs had was in '97, and Montana was long gone by then.

Chiefshrink 10-31-2020 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 15287497)
Not really. The Cowboys went down and scored with ease on the first drive (yes, Irvin pushed off of Dale Carter), but the Cowboys were firmly in control of that game at all points.

That's what I remember. Montana never had an Irvin type WR here in KC nor a playmaking TE either. Would have helped for sure.

Frazod 10-31-2020 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperBowl4 (Post 15287849)
Joe doesn't/didn't play well in COLD weather.

San Francisco beat the Bears 28-3 on a brutally cold day at Soldier Field in the '88 NFC Championship Game.

Spott 10-31-2020 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 15287872)
There is a reason why SI ran a cover saying Dallas-SF was the real Super Bowl. The top of the NFC was in a different class then. Pittsburgh was a good team and they were throttled by the '95 Cowboys.

The best chance the Chiefs had was in '97, and Montana was long gone by then.

They weren’t really throttled by Dallas. They trailed 20-17 in the 4th quarter before O’Donnell threw that horrible pick to Larry Brown at the end.

KChiefs1 10-31-2020 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15287398)
That was 95 on Thanksgiving Day. And the Chiefs were not beating the Cowboys during that era.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...9511230dal.htm

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Easy 6 10-31-2020 03:36 PM

All this talk about "we weren't beating the Cowboys" is giving me the redass... get Joe Cool to the big game in one piece, and ANYTHING was possible

poolboy 10-31-2020 03:52 PM

in 95 we were 1st in def and rushed for 2200 yards with an inferior qb. I think we were a Joe away in 95

Frazod 10-31-2020 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by poolboy (Post 15287926)
in 95 we were 1st in def and rushed for 2200 yards with an inferior qb. I think we were a Joe away in 95

It's not just Montana; it's equally infuriating to watch highlights of games from that era with Rich Gannon holding a ****ing clipboard while Bono and Grbac were on the field. :banghead:

poolboy 10-31-2020 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 15287950)
It's not just Montana; it's equally infuriating to watch highlights of games from that era with Rich Gannon holding a ****ing clipboard while Bono and Grbac were on the field. :banghead:

yes, that was def a window of opportunity

Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan 10-31-2020 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 15287950)
It's not just Montana; it's equally infuriating to watch highlights of games from that era with Rich Gannon holding a ****ing clipboard while Bono and Grbac were on the field. :banghead:

Denise? is that you?

*ducks into the shelter*

Frazod 10-31-2020 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan (Post 15288236)
Denise? is that you?

*ducks into the shelter*

Heh. If you said that to Raiderhader you'd need to go into witness protection. I don't really care.

Gannon being an infinitely superior quarterback to both Bono and Grbac is simply undeniable. I don't know what he did in practice or personally to either earn Marty's ire or not earn his respect, but we are all worse off for it. The worst thing Marty ever did, and I mean ever, was start that useless **** Grbac over Gannon in that playoff game against Denver. I remember in an interview Grunhard was asked what would have happened had Gannon started that game, and his reply was "I'd have a Super Bowl ring."

That game still haunts me. Mahomes and the Super Bowl diminished it some, but not much.

ghak99 10-31-2020 08:22 PM

I remember feeling bad for the old guy.

I really wanted to watch him play one more year to see what might have been, but I really didn't want to see him died on the field.

KChiefs1 01-28-2021 11:12 PM

Great interview with Tim Grunhard & Joe Montana.

https://omny.fm/shows/additional-pro...ontana-1-27-21


He really enjoyed his time in KC.

htismaqe 01-28-2021 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 15288262)
Heh. If you said that to Raiderhader you'd need to go into witness protection. I don't really care.

Gannon being an infinitely superior quarterback to both Bono and Grbac is simply undeniable. I don't know what he did in practice or personally to either earn Marty's ire or not earn his respect, but we are all worse off for it. The worst thing Marty ever did, and I mean ever, was start that useless **** Grbac over Gannon in that playoff game against Denver. I remember in an interview Grunhard was asked what would have happened had Gannon started that game, and his reply was "I'd have a Super Bowl ring."

That game still haunts me. Mahomes and the Super Bowl diminished it some, but not much.

Nah man.

It's all just selective memory.

That team was 100% driven by the defense. Go back and watch the games - the team was exactly the same regardless of who was under center.

Should they have stuck with Gannon? Sure. Was it the difference between a 1st round loss and a Super Bowl ring? No ****ing way.

The difference between Gannon and Grbac was never big enough to overcome Marty. The worst thing Marty ever did was not step down after 1995.

prhom 01-28-2021 11:39 PM

Dunno about you guys, but this year with Mahomes and this team made me realize how far away we really were all those other years. We thought we were maybe close but it was never true. Now I know what it’s like to have a true super bowl caliber team and we were never that close until the last few years.

KChiefs1 01-29-2021 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by prhom (Post 15516599)
Dunno about you guys, but this year with Mahomes and this team made me realize how far away we really were all those other years. We thought we were maybe close but it was never true. Now I know what it’s like to have a true super bowl caliber team and we were never that close until the last few years.


Same here.

I thought we were close under Marty. Not so much. We were like Cleveland & Buffalo this season. Thought we were close but not really.

Frazod 01-29-2021 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15516591)
Nah man.

It's all just selective memory.

That team was 100% driven by the defense. Go back and watch the games - the team was exactly the same regardless of who was under center.

Should they have stuck with Gannon? Sure. Was it the difference between a 1st round loss and a Super Bowl ring? No ****ing way.

The difference between Gannon and Grbac was never big enough to overcome Marty. The worst thing Marty ever did was not step down after 1995.

We were the only team in the playoffs to give the cooking spray ****s a game. A game they had to actively cheat to win. And still, had that phantom hold not been called on Lowery's field goal which resulted in a miss from five yards further out, we'd have been down by one instead of four on that final drive, and would not have needed a touchdown but rather a chip shot field goal to win the game and advance.

No one will ever convince me we weren't the best team in the league that year. That was an epic screw job.


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