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staylor26 04-27-2021 10:25 PM

Final 2021 Mock Draft
 
58. Payton Turner, EDGE, Houston- perfect marriage of scheme fit, BPA, and need here. The closer we get, the more it feels like the Chiefs might need some luck for Turner to even make it to 58, but I think he does. With his length and athleticism, I think Turner is a perfect fit at LE for Spags.

63. Elijah Molden, CB, Washington- It appears that the Chiefs are looking for a corner that can play inside so that they can move Sneed outside. Molden, who’s often compared to Tyrann Mathieu, gives the Chiefs a starting day 1 NB allowing Sneed to take over at RCB and Mathieu to be the ultimate chess piece that he is.

144. Robert Hainsey, C/OG, Notre Dame- Blythe, Long, Wylie, and Rankin will all be free agents after the season. The Chiefs will take a versatile interior offensive lineman at some point of this draft. Early on day 3 is my guess and Hainsey could be your starting C or RG in 2022.

175. Josh Imatorbhebhe, WR, Illinois- Great size and athleticism. If the Chiefs were to miss out on a WR early, I’d prefer they take a high upside guy on day 3. Veach sounds like he’s targeting a WR in the middle rounds, and I’m sure he’d be drooling over a guy like Imatorbhebhe at this point of the draft.

181. Darrick Forrest, S, Cincinnati- The Chiefs could really use depth at safety and Forrest gives them somebody with versatility. He should easily beat out Watts for a roster spot and give the Chiefs an upgrade at their 4th safety spot.

207. Buddy Johnson, LB, Texas A&M- Johnson doesn’t quite play like his measurables would lead you to believe, but he’s still got the kind of athleticism at the MLB position that the Chiefs would take a shot on with their last pick. He could potentially be the future replacement for Hitchens.

htismaqe 04-27-2021 10:28 PM

This would be a really great draft. I'm not sure I could do any better.

Kellerfox 04-27-2021 10:34 PM

Sign me up!

The Franchise 04-27-2021 10:49 PM

I’ve got Turner and Johnson in my final draft as well.

Direckshun 04-28-2021 07:44 AM

I'd be sweating the linebacker position some, but this is a good draft.

O.city 04-28-2021 08:05 AM

I'd really like to see a TE in there somehwere.

htismaqe 04-28-2021 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15648062)
I'd really like to see a TE in there somehwere.

I think he's trying to predict somewhat what he thinks the Chiefs will do.

Which means we probably won't see a TE.

RealSNR 04-28-2021 09:45 AM

Best Chiefs WR name since Kirby Dar Dar

htismaqe 04-28-2021 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 15648174)
Best Chiefs WR name since Kirby Dar Dar

Just don't sound it out phonetically. It's extremely racist.

RunKC 04-28-2021 11:01 AM

I’d be cool with this for sure. I really want a WR with our 4th though. I think that we can find a better one there that can get on the field a bit this season

The Franchise 04-28-2021 11:43 AM

I’d put Palmer at 144 and then find a new C/G at 175 but I’d be okay with it.

staylor26 04-28-2021 12:52 PM

Just to clarify, my final mock is always predictive. This isn’t necessarily what I want, although I’d be very happy with it.

O.city 04-28-2021 01:04 PM

Well it's shitty

htismaqe 04-28-2021 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15648578)
Well it's shitty

How so?

O.city 04-28-2021 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15648589)
How so?

If Staylor put it together, it's shitty.

htismaqe 04-28-2021 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15648605)
If Staylor put it together, it's shitty.

ROFL

KChiefs1 04-28-2021 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15648605)
If Staylor put it together, it's shitty.

No truer words can be spoken. :thumb:

staylor26 04-28-2021 01:30 PM

Yea my final mocks have been shitty the last 2 years despite absolutely nailing the Thornhill, Gay, and Sneed picks ;)

O.city 04-28-2021 01:35 PM

EH, blind squirrel and nuts

The Franchise 04-28-2021 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15648639)
Yea my final mocks have been shitty the last 2 years despite absolutely nailing the Thornhill, Gay, and Sneed picks ;)

Hopefully you nail the Turner pick this season.

staylor26 04-28-2021 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15648666)
Hopefully you nail the Turner pick this season.

Amen!

RunKC 04-28-2021 02:29 PM

Not to boost his ego (aw **** it) but staylor was higher on Chris Jones than anybody here. I do remember that.

staylor26 04-28-2021 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15648762)
Not to boost his ego (aw **** it) but staylor was higher on Chris Jones than anybody here. I do remember that.

Kareem Hunt too :)

O.city 04-28-2021 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15648814)
Kareem Hunt too :)

So a drunk, a lazy DL, 2 injury prone dudes and a lucky 4th round CB.

Yeah, good job.

staylor26 04-28-2021 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15648829)
So a drunk, a lazy DL, 2 injury prone dudes and a lucky 4th round CB.

Yeah, good job.

LMAO

Tribal Warfare 04-28-2021 06:15 PM

RB Javonte Williams is my Dark Horse pick in the 2nd round

kccrow 04-28-2021 06:57 PM

I'm really high on Turner, Molden, and Hainsey. I have Hainsey as a 3rd rounder.

Molden, though, I see him as an heir to Mathieu type of pick and not a guy that can be much of a different player for you and take on anything on the outside.

If they intend to bring Mathieu back, it'd be kind of a waste. If not, I'd laud the pick.

Chris Meck 04-28-2021 07:11 PM

I REALLY like the potential of Imatorbhebhe.

The Franchise 04-28-2021 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 15649094)
RB Javonte Williams is my Dark Horse pick in the 2nd round

Why the hell would we take a RB in the 2nd round a year after taking a RB in the first round?

Tribal Warfare 04-28-2021 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15649225)
Why the hell would we take a RB in the 2nd round a year after taking a RB in the first round?

He's Kareem Hunt 2.0, and KC did cut Damien Williams. Chiefs scouts were present at Javonte's pro day

In58men 04-28-2021 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15649225)
Why the hell would we take a RB in the 2nd round a year after taking a RB in the first round?

Chiefs were interested in Gio Bernard, so they very well could take RB at some point. Not sure how much value they’re willing to put into the position though.

The Franchise 04-28-2021 08:04 PM

It would be a waste of a 2nd round pick. I don’t care if he’s Hunt 2.0. We have bigger needs.

In58men 04-28-2021 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15649289)
It would be a waste of a 2nd round pick. I don’t care if he’s Hunt 2.0. We have bigger needs.

Obviously, but that’s the point of a “dark horse” pick lol.

The Franchise 04-28-2021 08:25 PM

Then my dark horse pick is QB, Kellen Mond.

In58men 04-28-2021 08:44 PM

Let’s not get dramatic. Chiefs have shown interest in RB, so there’s a legitimate need.

Williams and CEH behind this OL could very well intrigue Veach. It’s a definitely a good dark horse pick if you ask me.

htismaqe 04-28-2021 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 15649350)
Let’s not get dramatic. Chiefs have shown interest in RB, so there’s a legitimate need.

Williams and CEH behind this OL could very well intrigue Veach. It’s a definitely a good dark horse pick if you ask me.

A 2nd rounder warrants the criticism. It would be an awful pick.

The Franchise 04-28-2021 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 15649350)
Let’s not get dramatic. Chiefs have shown interest in RB, so there’s a legitimate need.

Williams and CEH behind this OL could very well intrigue Veach. It’s a definitely a good dark horse pick if you ask me.

Just because they wanted to sign a 3rd down RB in FA doesn’t mean that they’ll waste a 2nd round pick on one.

In58men 04-28-2021 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15649419)
Just because they wanted to sign a 3rd down RB in FA doesn’t mean that they’ll waste a 2nd round pick on one.

We also wouldn’t trade for Brown

Tribal Warfare 04-28-2021 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15649419)
Just because they wanted to sign a 3rd down RB in FA doesn’t mean that they’ll waste a 2nd round pick on one.

Doesn't mean they won't waste it either, Damien is gone and there is a spit to fill.

If a player is has the ability to be elite you select him, thus not making it a waste with Mahomes at the helm

htismaqe 04-28-2021 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 15649425)
Doesn't mean they won't waste it either, Damien is gone and there is a spit to fill.

If a player is has the ability to be elite you select him, thus not making it a waste with Mahomes at the helm

no player is elite standing on the sideline.

Unless you're suggesting they should bench CEH or just take an actual pass catcher off the field.

Taking a RB in the 2nd round would be about the worst possible pick they could make.

Tribal Warfare 04-28-2021 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15649426)
no player is elite standing on the sideline.

Unless you're suggesting they should bench CEH or just take an actual pass catcher off the field.

Taking a RB in the 2nd round would be about the worst possible pick they could make.


CEH isn't 20+ carry RB, Like Kamara and Ingram with the Saints CEH will need to split the load.

Javonte can fulfill that role.

The Chiefs needs are different than most because of Patrick Mahomes

In58men 04-28-2021 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15649426)
no player is elite standing on the sideline.

Unless you're suggesting they should bench CEH or just take an actual pass catcher off the field.

Taking a RB in the 2nd round would be about the worst possible pick they could make.

It would be one of those knee-jerk reaction picks, but after a week or so everyone would be very intrigued with the new backfield. I would definitely say “wtf are we doing”, but fully on board later lol. I just trust Veach that much, I might be a little crazy. :)

The Franchise 04-28-2021 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 15649430)
CEH isn't 20+ carry RB, Like Kamara and Ingram with the Saints CEH will need to split the load.

Javonte can fulfill that role.

The Chiefs needs are different than most because of Patrick Mahomes

No RB is a 20+ carry back with Reid.

htismaqe 04-28-2021 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 15649430)
CEH isn't 20+ carry RB, Like Kamara and Ingram with the Saints CEH will need to split the load.

Javonte can fulfill that role.

The Chiefs needs are different than most because of Patrick Mahomes

So can a 4th rounder or even a UDFA.

We need DE's and defensive backs, WR's and possibly backup or developmental offensive linemen.

Taking a RB in the 2nd round would just be an awful waste of resources. I mean, everybody said David Montgomery was Hunt 2.0 and he's really not.

People need to stop looking for the next Kareem Hunt. He's gone. He's not coming back.

htismaqe 04-28-2021 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15649438)
No RB is a 20+ carry back with Reid.

In 6 or 7 games a season, no RB is a TEN carry back with Reid.

htismaqe 04-28-2021 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 15649432)
It would be one of those knee-jerk reaction picks, but after a week or so everyone would be very intrigued with the new backfield. I would definitely say “wtf are we doing”, but fully on board later lol. I just trust Veach that much, I might be a little crazy. :)

For sure, I'm willing to trust Reid and Veach. If they think the guy is worth it, they've earned the benefit of the doubt.

That doesn't mean we have to accept something like this before they actually do it. Bad idea is still bad.

Tribal Warfare 04-28-2021 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15649438)
No RB is a 20+ carry back with Reid.

Kareem was and the purpose of the statement is that CEH can't take the hits and play on an upper tier.


You need two players who can take the load that can compliment eachother

The Franchise 04-28-2021 09:52 PM

Picking a backup TE would be better value than a 2nd RB.

The Franchise 04-28-2021 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 15649442)
Kareem was and the purpose of the statement is that CEH can't take the hits and play on an upper tier.


You need two players who can take the load that can compliment eachother

6 games in 2017.
1 game in 2018

Tribal Warfare 04-28-2021 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15649445)
6 games in 2017.
1 game in 2018


Ignoring the statement and qualifier of taking the onslaught of hits

The Franchise 04-28-2021 09:58 PM

Kareem was a 20+ carry RB with Reid.

7 games out of 32 says that he wasn’t.

Tribal Warfare 04-28-2021 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15649451)
Kareem was a 20+ carry RB with Reid.

7 games out of 32 says that he wasn’t.


LOL, you know exactly what I'm referring to that Kareem was a durable feature back that CEH with his size isn't which isn't his fault.

Javonte is the same build and playing style as Kareem that would benefit Mahomes and CEH availability in the playoffs

htismaqe 04-28-2021 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 15649442)
Kareem was and the purpose of the statement is that CEH can't take the hits and play on an upper tier.

You need two players who can take the load that can compliment eachother

Kareem was not.

His rookie season, he had 6 games where he carried the ball 20 times or more. He had THREE games where he carried the ball 10 times or LESS with two more games where he had 11 and 13 respectively.

I could go through 2018 too but it's a waste of time - Andy Reid doesn't commit to the run. 20+ carry games aren't the norm, not even close.

htismaqe 04-28-2021 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 15649457)
LOL, you know exactly what I'm referring to that Kareem was a durable feature back that CEH with his size isn't which isn't his fault.

Sorry but this is just pure unadulterated bullshit. CEH got hurt last year on a play that would have injured Derrick ****ing Henry.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 15649457)
Javonte is the same build and playing style as Kareem that would benefit Mahomes and CEH availability in the playoffs

We don't need Kareem Hunt. He's gone. He's not coming back. Stop living in the past.

Tribal Warfare 04-28-2021 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15649458)
Kareem was not.

His rookie season, he had 6 games where he carried the ball 20 times or more. He had THREE games where he carried the ball 10 times or LESS with two more games where he had 11 and 13 respectively.

I could go through 2018 too but it's a waste of time - Andy Reid doesn't commit to the run. 20+ carry games aren't the norm, not even close.


I'll refer again it all equates to durability and availability and CEH doesn't have the build to be a feature back. Javonte like Kareem has that element of doing that without being banged up and missing games.

htismaqe 04-28-2021 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 15649461)
I'll refer again it all equates to durability and availability and CEH doesn't have the build to be a feature back. Javonte like Kareem has that element of doing that without being banged up and missing games.

Sorry but this is a BS take not at all based on fact.

Tribal Warfare 04-28-2021 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15649460)
Sorry but this is just pure unadulterated bullshit. CEH got hurt last year on a play that would have injured Travis ****ing Henry.



We don't need Kareem Hunt. He's gone. He's not coming back. Stop living in the past.


CEH got injured correct and the Chiefs didn't have a second option.
.

It's not living in the past when the solution is looking straight at you.

Selecting a RB with elite potential benefits Mahomes and at level that can win a SB then it shouldn't be a problem

htismaqe 04-28-2021 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 15649463)
CEH got injured correct and the Chiefs didn't have a second option.
.

It's not living in the past when the solution is looking straight at you.

Selecting a RB with elite potential benefits Mahomes and at level that can win a SB then it shouldn't be a problem

The Chiefs did have a second option. Darrell Williams was just fine in that role.

There's no reason to spend a 2nd round pick on a RB just because you think CEH has a fragile build and you're looking for the next Kareem Hunt.

If you want another backup RB, there will be plenty available on Saturday and beyond.

Tribal Warfare 04-28-2021 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15649467)
The Chiefs did have a second option. Darrell Williams was just fine in that role.

There's no reason to spend a 2nd round pick on a RB just because you think CEH has a fragile build and you're looking for the next Kareem Hunt.

If you want another backup RB, there will be plenty available on Saturday and beyond.

I want the best talen possible, like Kamara and Ingram. Good ole Darrel dropped the diving pass perpendicular to the field in the SB when it counted so fine isn't acceptable.

htismaqe 04-28-2021 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 15649469)
I want the best talen possible, like Kamara and Ingram. Good ole Darrel dropped the diving pass perpendicular to the field in the SB when it counted so fine isn't acceptable.

So one play makes the rest of his contribution moot? Because I guarantee you every player makes a mistake like that every year. Javonte Williams will do it too.

Better not draft him.

Chris Meck 04-28-2021 11:02 PM

No.

Maybe someone like Chris Evans at #207.

O.city 04-29-2021 07:55 AM

Get one in UDFA.

RB's are easily found and replaced.

In58men 04-29-2021 08:03 AM

We have 4 RBs already CEH, Williams, Thompson and McGuire.

Still not sure what we’re doing with Bell

Chris Meck 04-29-2021 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 15649775)
We have 4 RBs already CEH, Williams, Thompson and McGuire.

Still not sure what we’re doing with Bell

we're not doing anything with Bell.

I'm 90% sure that we grabbed him to keep him away from Pittsburgh, as they were still undefeated at the time and looked like they might be our biggest hurdle. He was never a fit here as a runner, and was not likely to be able to digest the entire playbook well enough on the fly to be an asset in the passing game or protection.

The Franchise 05-01-2021 01:13 PM

It’s down to one player.

O.city 05-02-2021 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15648578)
Well it's shitty

Called it


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