Classic WoW: Invite to CP Members
 

So I just wanted to let everyone know that WoW Classic is going to be coming out August 27th, 2019. This will be a chance for people to experience WoW when it was at its greatest (my opinion) Pre-The Burning Crusade. Blizzard is relaunching Legacy Servers.

In the past I have played on Private Server for years, ton of fun many endgame raids and PVP.

That being said me and about 72 players who all have END GAME EXPERIENCE and Thousands of hours in "Vanilla" or "Classic" WoW have already started forming. We are what you would consider a "Toxic Group" by most. When I say Toxic I mean we plan on camping alliance none-stop, raid wiping them, being jackasses on discord etc. But we will also be Semi-Hard Core end game raiders. That being said most people are 30-40 Years old from all walks of life. Should you like to play I wanted to invite you to join our guild. You have have plenty of people to help teach you and guide you along the way, plus you see all endgame PVE Content and guys to always PVP with.

Discord Link: https://discord.gg/v8x4Sq4
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Old Video's from Private Server Days
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I am interested, Played a Fury warrior up into BFA and I have kinda burnt out on it all. Would be nice to go back to Vanilla again.

I was a day 1 WoW player and quit when Cataclysm came out and came back for Legion. I've never played on a private server but given that you have to maintain a subscription to play a game that ended 13 years ago I think I would rather play on a private server.

That what I play, DPS Warriors in Vanilla WoW are overpowered

I understand that, but after 5 years of Private Servers dead PVP scenes and high latency you wouldn't want to trust me.

Plus Private Servers are buggy as hell. Warriors Charges miss all the time, and intercepts and other skills don't work. And like I said on every PServer community the PVP Scene is dead in a couple of months.

In Classic they are going to have Battle Ground Server Groups, meaning you will be queing with 3 other servers worth of players. So insta battle grounds. ON PServers you que can be 3-10 hours or not at all.

I canceled my WoW account end of last xpac. Brought it back for the new xpac and then dropped it again. The PvP Ques were taking too long and i simply dont have the time to do what's necessary to stay current for top end raiding.

I started playing WoW back when you could download the incomplete alpha version off (one of those torrent sites), so im pretty familiar with Molten Core and the 40 man ganking etc. Great times. I was there for all of it. Me and my roommate would spend countless hours PvPing outside of Winterspring, or ganking lowbies in Ashenvale, before BG's became a thing.

But now...meh. I don't know. A little nostalgia came back while writing this post, and Blizz did send me 3 free days of WoW. We'll see. But im not particularly excited about Classic WoW making a return. The thing about nostalgia is that it wears off pretty fast. I don't think you can recapture the magic of what made Classic WoW so awesome at the time. There was never really anything like that before (Sure, Everquest, but fart sounds). Now, every game is an Online MMO of sorts. Every game is huge and expansive, and that curisosity for exploring this new uncharted open world is gone. We already know the world. We know the content. There's nothing to see or explore anymore.

It's the PVP and the SERVER COMMUNITY that will bring it back for you. Guilds will fight one another for resources. You will have a reputation on servers again.

Plus PVP in Vanilla wasn't rock/paper/scissors, you needed skills, had to manage cool downs etc.

The thing Classic WoW Will have is massive world PVP like you don't see in other games. From tagging world bosses, to Tarren Mill Vs South Shore, to City Raids.. Not to mention the AQ40 gate openings.

There is no game that currently has this feel in my opinion. This is why I have kept going back and back.

I actually got more hyped for it after I played BFA for a couple months and seeing just how aids it was to grind out the azerite to unlock the skills on the helms/shoulders/chests only to have the next tier come out and getting the same item but now its 10 or w/e it was ilvls higher and now you dont have enough azerite to unlock the same exact skills from the old item.

But the more and more that it sinks in I just dont know if I will bother. When vanilla was winding down about the only thing I was doing was wall walking into zones that weren't finished like Caverns of Time and Hyjal and other random spots like getting under AQ.

I'm pretty sure we ****ed up some Warsong Gulch and Arathi Basin back in the day with you. My brother was with me.

I'm going to give it a try when Classic goes live. I played for more than a decade and finally gave up after Legion, didn't even bother with BFA. Bump the thread when Classic goes live.

Will do!

BTW guys... Raid Nights were strategically picked to avoid football at all cost. That being said, you will be working with a group of guys who know all the ins and out. So we should be farming MC very soon.

Yup, haha. Was fun. I enjoy WoW PvP. ESPECIALLY open world PvP.

But Overwatch has replaced that spot in my heart. I only have so much time i can spend on gaming, so i usually can only commit to one or two games at a time. Right now that's OW and GTA Online.

Better get your ass moving and start farming that Fire Resistance gear!

Eh I’ve always been with guilds that just kill the boss fast as shit.

Fastest MC run I’ve ever done was 25 minute full clear.... yes we brought full world buffs and consumes and 15 warriors.... but I’ll be damned if our raid night wasn’t quick

When MC first opened my guild was all about that Fire Resistance gear. It was mandatory to farm the piss out of it in order to not be one-shot by Ragnaros. We had to reach a certain threshhold or you weren't allowed to go.

I played Shadow Priest. Which in Vanilla, was a bastard spec. So i went to MC as a Shadow Priest that did nothing but spam Flash Heal LMAO.

But hey, i was one of the first on my server rockin' Anathema.

Good times. Back in the day when purples meant something. And you could feel the power difference too when i took that damn thing into BG's.

Hahaha

Yeah only tanks need FR it’s a waste on DPS especially on horde side Melee groups all have fire totem, then you can avoid all fire damage if you kill before suns and run the right strat.

Shadow Priests are worthless in PVE till AQ40 because the only class you really benefit is Warlocks and they don’t have the hit gear till then.

But S Priest is one of the characters if I see in world I just turn around as a warrior... **** that

I played Shadow back then for the WPvP, but needed the raiding gear obviously.

Shadow was a lot of fun in WPvP. DoT a noob up and kite, kite kite. Fear, Heal, DoT, Fear Heal, DoT.

Im going to go hard on Classic.

That being said I am going to have about 15 different groups of people I can join with. I am going to make a more informed decision once we get info on servers, who is playing where, etc.

Is that pic in the OP current? Only 4 hunter mains?

I stopped playing WoW right before WotLK came out and just recently out of the blue decided to try it again.

SOOO many changes but I actually like them a lot.

The community aspect is gone and that sucks major ass, but the game itself is just so much more fun.

I'm just slowly playing through all the old content I missed, collecting mogs and enjoying being able to play all 3 specs as a paladin. Back in Vanilla, you were either a holy paladin, or you didn't go to raids.

It's so much nicer now.

I'm only level 87 and if the end game sucks by the time I get there, I'll just quit again. :)

Hunter is objectively the worst class in Classic, (even worse than in vanilla because of the modern handling of leeway and a host of other minor issues) unless you are playing them for what they ARE good at, which is gold farming and leveling.

Most of the population will be heavily favoring PvE or PvP over minor stuff like leveling or farming, and the hunter is probably the worst PvP class, as well as the worst raid DPS.

Doesn't mean you cant have fun playing it and do some cool things, its just not really good at what the majority of the playerbase does.

I'm playing on a private server...I think rogue is a perfect class for mix of fun and OP. Warrior is the best class overall but dps can be boring and is a pain in the ass to level. Druid heals are only good in raids because they can't rez. As mentioned before, hunter is the lowest dps class.

Are they bringing back ammunition? It's not classic without ammunition.

Yep.

Yes Hunters are pretty much worthless in a raid minus tranq shot....

Hunters problems are their pets damage don’t scale with gear. So honestly bring more Melee is preferable. (Especially On Horde)

That being said we know some guys who are rolling Alliance on same server we are going to. We are going to coordinate with them for some minor stuff (pally buffs, devilsaur mafia)

But we will be having two raid groups.

Yeah, I did do that. Hunter was the first class I played. Just to learn the game. I had a lot of fun with it as I enjoyed doing solo stuff.

I still haven't decided what class to main. I've played all of them to max level with each expansion up until Legion when I got bored with it, so it's a hard choice. I used to play a particular role/class depending on my mood when I logged in. I was an unrepentant altoholic. I won't be going Ally, though. Just feels wrong.

I love Warrior and after playing it with 160 ping on private servers all these years I’m ready to not be handicapped anymore....

I like to heal. I especially like to druid heal, pally next.

Both druid and pally are somewhat gimped in classic compared to later, but i might still pick one up :(

For WPVP BM Hunters had no equal in late classic/early BC.

I never could get into raiding but loved any and all PVP.

Never played anything but Alliance but I like what the OP is doing.

Damn, I'd be down if it was alliance actually. My current wow guild for bfa doesn't plan to do much in classic, but I'm ready to drop bfa altogether for classic. 1 month away my dudes.:)

So the concept is PVE FOR PVP, we aim to clear content fast so we can get back to the real game, that’s being scumbags in world and camping mid in BGs

Actually druids are disgusting raid heals, and on horde side they are way more valuable because of combat res. You typically only want three in raid but we will have two raid groups... both going same night as to avoid football.

Old video from another PServer I was on doing some guild PVP

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My last main was a druid. Bears really hit a nice place during WotLK and trees were always nice. I enjoyed playing a 'combat medic' pvp tree spec and ended up bear/tree dual spec after leveling as pretty much everything, including some specs that don't exist anymore. I miss working out a spec. Being able to use any of them at any time is nice but the new system is crap for people who like to get into the nuts and bolts of things.

Prot War is pretty nice. I get frustrated when I have gaps in my roto. I hate standing there waiting on a CD for base abilities. I've got a free starter account that I mess with occasionally and you can't go past level 20.

LOL, you've just been recruited.

Shit dude, I hated WELFARE EPICS..... That ruined the game for me.

Also Transmog

But that being said 90% people in that discord have 6+ Vanilla WoW Experience. We know all the world bosses, BiS Pre-Raid gear. How to min/max in raids. Our whole belief is the PVE is there just to get loot for PVP. So we run raids to knock them out asap.

25 Minute MC
45 Minute BWL
45 Minute AQ40
**** Naxx no speed runs XD

Of course this wont be at first, but first raid night we will down Rag 100%. I'm pushing for all Melee to go engineering so that we can have all the melee buffs possible.

Herp derp on my part. I forgot to mention that you can't be a Horde Pally in Vanilla.

Hah! I didn't even do PVP until I found out that I had to do Alterac Valley for the Icy Barbed Spear for my Hunter at level 50-something. I had gone full on melee huntard at that point just for fun because I had put together a nice chain mail set. So I went in there with a ridiculously high speed cat, that nice chain set, a good understanding of ranged and melee Hunter moves, that Devilsaur Tooth trinket from Sunken Temple to spark off a chain of cat crits...I tore shit up. I was completely the opposite though. I'd farm honor to buy gear for pve.

It's all about that macro game

On a real account it's fine because you eventually level into enough abilities to make a full roto. I'm goofing around with a bunch of level 20's though. Which reminds me of yet another bitch about current WoW: No spell ranks and having to wait into your 50's+ to get what I think are core abilities.

Another bitch: In random groups nobody wants to think. About anything. At all. The rarer player that does? Druid healer bitching at me because I flash heal on my ret pally because I have spare GCD's due to gaps in my roto at level 20.

ONLY having a 30 minute battle res is whats keeping me from aujtomatically saying yes im going to play druid. If they had a real res it would be no question. Without it, pally starts to look more appealing to me.

People die. Shit happens. As a healer, i feel like its major gimp not to be able to pcik up a single stupid DPS for out aggroing a tank. Every other healing class can. Its classism!

Oh I know.

Im not committed to any faction, class, or race at this point. Need to see where the cards fall as far as my friend groups and what they end up doing.

What are you talking about, druids are perfect for "Oh Shit" Heals on DPS...

My ass has been saved many ah times by a druids "Swift Mend"

Can't justify paying for retail just to get to play Classic.

Im talking about res.

They cant res except once every 30 minutes. They are fine healers in the general sense, but every other heal class can pick up my idiot friends when they die.

Yeah but they can’t do it in combat, which is what makes druids special

Hunter and Druid have always been my toons. Love Druid healing. We used to shut down all horde AHs at the same time for hours on end. We would also lock down STV on Sunday mornings for the fishing contest. For a year straight if a horde wanted a chance to win the tourney they'd pay the guild I ran huge gold. The tears were so sweet. When was it you could get all the gear you needed for pvp without touching pve? I thought it was at least by BC. I'd prefer to shoot myself in the foot than PVE.

TBC

We decided to restart our original guild alliance side for anyone not planning to go horde. Name was and will be No Mercy Mafia. Red equals dead. Let me know if you want more info.

I don't have time for video games in general, let alone revisiting my haydays of 40 man Naxx raiding. Four nights a week, five nights on push, was just too much.

Server lists are up:

North American Realms
PvE
Atiesh - Pacific
Mankrik - Eastern
Myzrael - Pacific
Pagle - Eastern

PvP
Faerlina - Eastern
Fairbanks - Pacific
Herod - Eastern
Thalnos - Eastern
Whitemane - Pacific

RP
Bloodsail Buccaneers - Eastern

RPPvP
Grobbulus - Pacific

Surprised NA gets more servers than Asia.

Feels like NA has the lowest player base in the world.

Which server is "MOIST" going to be on??

I know I shouldnt try and play this, but the masochist in me is dying to play something difficult and grindy again.

I think people expecting it to be difficult are going to be really surprised. It was never difficult, just more time consuming. Even back in vanilla people were 4 manning Onyxia. People were just terrible at the game back then which made it seem "difficult." I wont be surprised at all if its less than a week before some hardcore private server players are 10 manning MC.

Oh come on, those people way out-geared the content at that point. Shit like that was incredibly rare and far, far from the norm. Look at the dates and the gear on those YouTube videos.

They're rockin' full on T3 gear while slaying a pre-raid "raid" boss. Not even T1. Nothing to do with people being terrible. There just wasn't much in terms of theory crafting back then, and the gear from Naxx was sooo much stronger then what was available in T1. Naxx was the pinnacle of raiding at the time and very few actually completed it, as it required guilds to be decked out in full T2, and most weren't even that.

It was rare because most people were keyboard turning and clicking.

Are you going to say that the boss fights are even remotely comparable to what they are in retail? There are so many mechanics in retail on any given boss fight its insane. In MC the boss fight will simply be dont stand in this location for the 1 mechanic the fight offers or making sure you have 3 people that can decurse. The game was mind numbingly easy and nothing complex started happening til way late in the life cycle.

Most people didn't complete Naxx because it wasn't out very long before it was dated because TBC was coming out. That's why Naxx was re-released in Wrath.

No, of course not. Today's fight mechanics are considerably more complex.

But like anything in WoW, content is gated by gear. Yes, the mechanics will be easy in theory, but the lack of HP pools and mana pools will amplify every mistake made. As the raid team gears, the content will get easier.

I think you will be surprised by just have much the skill of the people playing has changed and how easy the content will be cleared once its released. Hell, even in TBC guilds in Asia were clearing Black Temple in Tier 3 with Thunderfury's and shit.

Depends on if we're discussing top guilds, or most guilds. I don't care how quickly top 10 guilds will clear content. The work and time put into that is insane. Most guilds, however, will not be 4-maning Onyxia anytime soon, or 10-maning MC within a week of release. Not even top 10 guilds will be doing that. Skill can only tkae you so far. WoW gates content through player power.

And people that have been playing on private servers for the last decade have crunched the numbers and learned shit that no one knew at the time that they can start collecting best in slot pre raid gear as early as level 40.

The hardest thing in the game will be getting your Gold reserves up and running again. Took me forever to get the fastest land mount.

No kidding. Especially considering that most of the "easy" ways to earn gold will be monopolized by the private server crowd.

Blizzard just extended their pre launch classic stress test another 2 days. Me thinks they saw a nice little boost in subscribers with this open stress test. I was going to check it out until it told me I had to have an active sub for a stress test.

So I havent picked a server yet. While its my preference to roll PvP, my lady will be playing with me and of course, she just isnt cut out for it.

PvE, alliance at the moment. Anyone here doing anything that fits that?

edit: Its between Mankrik and Pagle

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My guild is rolling on Herod, pvp NA server :D

I'll probably name myself wanggang again

What server did you guys pick for this? I'm assuming a pvp server?

Moving to Stalnagg.

The reason is because Blizzard is telling people Herod as it stand right now will have queues in excess of 10k. Meaning you might have to wait hours before getting into the game.

im more then likely going to be playing, but ill be on a pvp server alliance (dont like alliance) but thats what my buddies guild voted for! I dont think im going to be raiding though, ill probably just be a fill in and ill be spending most of my time in AV..

Wife called me at work.....wants us to play WoW classic....

I am rolling on Pagle

Blizzard adding 4 more servers on the 26th after they just added more a couple days ago.

Now they are saying that servers are getting so full that the amount of people might exceed the limits of the queue and it's possible you wont even be put in one.

I would love to compare the launch numbers of classic vs their next expansion.

I wouldnt be shocked if Classic pulls in 1 million+ subscribers. It's going to be hilarious to watch the drop off when kids who werent even born when Classic first launched discover the grind.

1 million seems way low. They have like 15 servers now and they are all full/high. That's like 15 Tichondrius servers and that server has 750k on it. Of course thats not accounting for currently inactive, multiple chars on one account, one person with multiple accounts, but still. And I'm just talking about NA and not even including Europe which is the same story.

I would be shocked if it wasnt closer to like 3 million. It's certainly going to die down and I would imagine more than half of that number doesnt even make it to purchasing the level 40 mount

that that grind is like a speed bump compared to earlier mmo's! lol

For real. That was part of the draw to the original WoW at the time. It was more streamlined and less grindy than say, EverQuest.

WoW made MMORPG's mainstream, partly by making it more desirable to play than an Everquest by making it less of a grind.