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O.city 09-23-2019 01:49 PM

Early AFC Playoff picture
 
So thru 3 games (we pretty much knew this before the 3 games but anyway) we have a pretty good idea of whats what in the AFC.

But after the big 2, how does every one see the rest of it shaking out?

I think the Colts are the leader of that 2nd tier in the AFC and the Texans are right there.

Jerm 09-23-2019 01:49 PM

It's Pats/Chiefs....just a matter of where we're playing the AFCCG.

Couldn't care less about any other team.

Pasta Little Brioni 09-23-2019 01:50 PM

Pats
Chiefs
Ravens
Texans

O.city 09-23-2019 01:52 PM

The Bills are kinda sneaky in a great spot to get a WC. They're 3-0 and has Miami 2 times, plus the Jets Denver and Washington at home.

That's 5 pretty much lock wins which gets them to 8. Find another 2 in the rest of the 8 and they're in.

cmh6476 09-23-2019 02:01 PM

I think we can rule out the Dolphins and Jets.

Coochie liquor 09-23-2019 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by cmh6476 (Post 14472860)
I think we can rule out the Dolphins and Jets.

How you gonna leave out Dungver??

cmh6476 09-23-2019 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 14472862)
How you gonna leave out Dungver??

I was going by point differential. They almost made the list.

Miami -117
NY Jets -37
Pittsburg -36
Bengals - 29
Broncos - 21

Gravedigger 09-23-2019 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 14472862)
How you gonna leave out Dungver??

Yeah! Give them credit for being shitty, they've earned it!

jjchieffan 09-23-2019 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14472843)
The Bills are kinda sneaky in a great spot to get a WC. They're 3-0 and has Miami 2 times, plus the Jets Denver and Washington at home.

That's 5 pretty much lock wins which gets them to 8. Find another 2 in the rest of the 8 and they're in.

It's not gonna happen, but I would love to see the Bills go 4-0 with a surprise upset over the Patriots next weekend.

Ubeja Vontell 09-23-2019 02:43 PM

The only thing that matters in the AFC is the Chiefs getting that home field in the playoffs. Going into NE in a big game not good.

carcosa 09-23-2019 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Ubeja Vontell (Post 14473009)
The only thing that matters in the AFC is the Chiefs getting that home field in the playoffs. Going into NE in a big game not good.

??????

Hog's Gone Fishin 09-23-2019 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Ubeja Vontell (Post 14473009)
The only thing that matters in the AFC is the Chiefs getting that home field in the playoffs. Going into NE in a big game not good.

I don't mind one bit going there. In fact I'd love to go there and curb stomp their ass. The Patriots have a powder puff schedule the whole year. We don't have a week off at all. Bears,Packers,Vikings,Chargers x 2. We'll have to earn it every week.

If Mahomes gets injured we're done so don't count your chickens just yet.

Jewish Rabbi 09-23-2019 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ubeja Vontell (Post 14473009)
The only thing that matters in the AFC is the Chiefs getting that home field in the playoffs. Going into NE in a big game not good.

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Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 14473025)
??????

The head groundskeeper at Gillette Field ran the third leg of the state championship 400 meter high hurdles in New Hampshire, 1998. I assume that’s what the question marks are for, little man?

pugsnotdrugs19 09-23-2019 06:00 PM

Tier 1: Chiefs, Pats

Major gap

Tier 2: Ravens, Texans, Colts, Chargers (teetering on falling down tho)

Everyone else is so far down it isn’t relevant.

Bump 09-23-2019 06:01 PM

not one mention of the 3-0 Bills!

Red Dawg 09-23-2019 06:11 PM

Have the Patriot, cheating assholes started their season yet or are the still in their pre season? Since they have played 3 winless teams. We go East coast then West coast and then got the pleasure of playing a cheap shot division champ.

Must be rough for them to have the refs and the league in their back pocket.

smithandrew051 09-23-2019 06:13 PM

The Chargers are having the most Chargers season ever.

They could easily be 3-0 or 0-3 right now. They won a game that they shouldn’t have and lost a game that they shouldn’t have. The game against the Texans was a toss up that they dropped in true Charger fashion.

Mama Hip Rockets 09-24-2019 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 14473555)
The Patriots have a powder puff schedule the whole year. We don't have a week off at all. Bears,Packers,Vikings,Chargers x 2. We'll have to earn it every week.

Uh, the Chiefs play the Raiders and Broncos twice.

pugsnotdrugs19 09-24-2019 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mama Hip Rockets (Post 14476162)
Uh, the Chiefs play the Raiders and Broncos twice.

And we also play arguably the toughest division in football (NFC North) while NE gets the weak NFC East...

Mama Hip Rockets 09-24-2019 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14476175)
And we also play arguably the toughest division in football (NFC North) while NE gets the weak NFC East...

I'm not disagreeing that the Patriots have an easy schedule. But to say "we don't have a week off at all" seems a little over the top.

smithandrew051 09-24-2019 07:24 PM

You can’t understate how important that win was on Sunday.

It was an AFC game. It was a home game. It was against a team that will likely win their division.

If we lose that game, we’re a game down on Baltimore and we lose the tie breaker with them.

A loss on Sunday may have made the 2 seed difficult to get. We might’ve slid down to the 3 and been forced to go on the road twice to get to the Super Bowl.

Huge ****ing win. Just take care of business from here and we don’t need any help to get at least the 2 seed.

smithandrew051 09-24-2019 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14476175)
And we also play arguably the toughest division in football (NFC North) while NE gets the weak NFC East...

Iron sharpens iron. Let’s ****ing go.

Let the Patriots get fat and happy. It’ll be that much more satisfying to face **** them in the AFCCG.

Naptown Chief 09-24-2019 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 14473562)
The head groundskeeper at Gillette Field ran the third leg of the state championship 400 meter high hurdles in New Hampshire, 1998. I assume that’s what the question marks are for, little man?

ROFL

King_Chief_Fan 09-24-2019 07:31 PM

Did the cart just get ahead of the horse?

JD10367 09-24-2019 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 14476183)
Iron sharpens iron. Let’s ****ing go.

Let the Patriots get fat and happy. It’ll be that much more satisfying to face **** them in the AFCCG.

Like last year in Arrowhead when the Chiefs were supposed to dethrone them, right?

Imon Yourside 09-24-2019 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 14476380)
Like last year in Arrowhead when the Chiefs were supposed to dethrone them, right?

Hope you mailed a check to Dee Ford because without him Brady has a 3 pick game and has probably retired.

Amnorix 09-25-2019 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 14473618)
Have the Patriot, cheating assholes started their season yet or are the still in their pre season? Since they have played 3 winless teams. We go East coast then West coast and then got the pleasure of playing a cheap shot division champ.

Must be rough for them to have the refs and the league in their back pocket.


The internet is full of internet tough guys, so perhaps I should commend you for trying to go in the other direction and be known as the biggest whiny, crybaby pussy on the 'net.

The weak AFC East! :deevee:

The schedule! :deevee:

The refs! :deevee:

They cheat! :deevee:


Jesus. Man up and get ready for what ought to be an epic regular season game and AFCCG and see if you can dethrone the king and claim the prize, instead of ****ing whining like a 12 year old girl.

Chiefs=Champions 09-25-2019 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 14476686)
The internet is full of internet tough guys, so perhaps I should commend you for trying to go in the other direction and be known as the biggest whiny, crybaby pussy on the 'net.

The weak AFC East! :deevee:

The schedule! :deevee:

The refs! :deevee:

They cheat! :deevee:


Jesus. Man up and get ready for what ought to be an epic regular season game and AFCCG and see if you can dethrone the king and claim the prize, instead of ****ing whining like a 12 year old girl.

Do you just patrol the internet looking for people saying means things about the Pats? Must get exhausting!

Pasta Little Brioni 09-25-2019 07:22 AM

Asterix entire life revolves around that pathetic franchise. Why else would he cry like a baby over a name change? (Top 5 pathetic moment in board history btw)

Amnorix 09-25-2019 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs=Good (Post 14476693)
Do you just patrol the internet looking for people saying means things about the Pats? Must get exhausting!


Nope. Not active at any other site other than CP in terms of posting.

Lucky CP! :D

BlackOp 09-25-2019 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs=Good (Post 14476693)
Do you just patrol the internet looking for people saying means things about the Pats? Must get exhausting!

There is a whole legion of these NE fans...that feel compelled to defend Brady/Kraft. It's a way of self-justifying rooting for a sham dynasty...and tying your identity/esteem to a corrupt football franchise.

I imagine they rationalize the Patriots have never cheated and are just victims...

When NE is attacked...THEY are attacked.

Then you have the one resident Masshole...that just calls people pussies for pointing out the obvious officiating favoritism...that everyone in the world knows exists and is responsible for half of their titles...

Brady has been around for so long and an active part of the Boston culture...that they literally live through him and are scared of what life will be like when he's gone.

I hope in 10 years...that Mahomes doesn't do this to KC.

Yehoodi 09-25-2019 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Imon Yourside (Post 14476388)
Hope you mailed a check to Dee Ford because without him Brady has a 3 pick game and has probably retired.

If the refs do not call a D-hold on Jackson with a few minutes to play on Kelce's fumble (which Hightower recovery and took the ball to your 20), we punch that ball in, go up by two scores with 2 mins to play and the game is over.

So yes Dee Ford's offsides was big in that it cancelled the pick by KC that would of ended the game, as the same time though we Jackson's penalty kept KC alive in the AFCCG.

Either way great game by both teams, came down the to the wire, and both team franchises look to late game penalties that hurt the team's chances.

Yehoodi 09-25-2019 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 14476798)
There is a whole legion of these NE fans...that feel compelled to defend Brady/Kraft. It's a way of self-justifying rooting for a sham dynasty...and tying your identity/esteem to a corrupt football franchise.

I Imagine they think the Patriots have never cheated and are just victims...

When NE is attacked...THEY are attacked.

Then you have that one resident Masshole...that just calls people pussies for pointing out the obvious officiating favoritism...that everyone in the world knows exists ans is responsible for half of their titles..

Nah, it is just interesting to see how many folks want to talk about side issues in an attempt to bring down the Pats.

In 2009 Jets are caught playing with football during the game, no one cares and you can not find an contemporaneous article on the matter cause no one cared. Jets were disciplined. in 2014 Brady is accused of doing the same thing and folks are still talking about it.

BB freely admitted to taping signals from 2000 to 2007 and said he had a different understanding of the rule, NFL disagreed and fined him. Okay check fair enough. The Atlanta Falcons freely admit to pumping in crowd noise, get fine, fair enough. Folks still talk about BB and not one cares about what Atlanta did.

So for most Pats fan, it is tough to other fans too seriously when the Pats are really no different from any other team in the NFL.

\Regarding penalties - the pats play a discipline game. And we get the calls sometimes, sometimes we do not. Just look at the AFCCG. Some folks will complain about the pats getting calls but will ignore the miscall on the KC pick play in the 4th and the ticky tack calls on Jackson in the 4th. Hey, it happens to both sides and each fan base will think it is getting the short end of the stick. Sometimes you get the call sometimes you do not get the call.

Yehoodi 09-25-2019 08:39 AM

Regarding the playoffs, the Chiefs took a big step on Sunday with the win over Baltimore, that is great. With how the AFCN is shaping up looks like Baltimore might win that division and KC now has the tie breaker against them, so that is a big plus.

Hopefully for KC and NE each team will get a bye, but time will tell there is a lot of football to play.

KC is looking great and have taking up were they left off from last year and that is great for KC.

BlackOp 09-25-2019 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Yehoodi (Post 14476847)

Hopefully for KC and NE each team will get a bye,

No...hopefully the Patriots team plane crashes and removes those cheating, corrupt scumbags from the earth..

People would be "wow, that's awful"...while secretly saying "**** yes, there is a god".

Nobody wants to watch 42 year old Brady lumbering around... clinging to his youth by drinking sacrificial infant blood while the refs try to appease little "bobby" sex trafficker's "shortman" compensation.

It's like in Breaking Bad...when his son says "Just die already".

Amnorix 09-25-2019 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 14476957)
No...hopefully the Patriots team plane crashes and removes those cheating, corrupt scumbags from the earth..

People would be "wow, that's awful"...while secretly saying "**** yes, there is a god".

Nobody wants to watch 42 year old Brady lumbering around... clinging to his youth by drinking sacrificial infant blood while the refs try to appease little "bobby" sex trafficker's "shortman" compensation.

It's like in Breaking Bad...when his son says "Just die already".


For a sport that you think is intentionally rigged by the Illuminati, you seem to be pretty passionate (read: insane) about rooting for your team. Don't you know you're doomed? Kraft and his fellow owners have conspired -- alongside Goodell, vampires and genetics researchers -- to create a perpetual and unkillable victory machine that will roll relentlessly over the bodies of your poor team and the other 31 innocent victims.

Or something...

RollChiefsRoll 09-25-2019 09:46 AM

https://i.redd.it/c5mgr92zero31.jpg

BlackOp 09-25-2019 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 14477000)
Kraft has conspired -- alongside Goodell, to create a perpetual and unkillable victory machine.

This is the first realistic thing you've ever posted...

Amnorix 09-25-2019 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 14477111)
This is the first realistic thing you've ever posted...


It makes no ****ing sense at all, but you be you.

Flying High D 09-25-2019 10:31 AM

Sad thing is when sonkissing brady is gone, these sorry ass badger nut sack lickers will all come climbing on the Mahomes Mobile. Never heard of patriot fan before b&b.

Yehoodi 09-25-2019 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 14476957)
No...hopefully the Patriots team plane crashes and removes those cheating, corrupt scumbags from the earth..

People would be "wow, that's awful"...while secretly saying "**** yes, there is a god".

Nobody wants to watch 42 year old Brady lumbering around... clinging to his youth by drinking sacrificial infant blood while the refs try to appease little "bobby" sex trafficker's "shortman" compensation.

It's like in Breaking Bad...when his son says "Just die already".

I agree with you that many folks are tired of the Pats always being around. And I understand the frustration of "isn't it over yet". And agree on one level that some of things we cited about the Pats only make folks even more angry and frustrated, so no argument here. And BB's attitude to the press doesn't help, although i agree with how he does it.

But what goes around comes around. I have been watching sports since the early 1970s and we here in Boston have been on the other side of the coin from pretty much that entire time up to 2001, so 30 years of my sports fandom has been series of close calls, we will get them next year, and looking up to other cities with the champions.

True the run is longer than most runs, but some of us have had the depths of despair too.

Great thing for you guys is you got a 24 year Mahomes and so much to look forward to in the upcoming year. You are just starting your run. :thumb:

And yes we are glad that Brady is on the infant blood diet. :)

Yehoodi 09-25-2019 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Flying High D (Post 14477174)
Sad thing is when sonkissing brady is gone, these sorry ass badger nut sack lickers will all come climbing on the Mahomes Mobile. Never heard of patriot fan before b&b.

You can count me in as a Mahomes fan, I will be following him and the Chiefs. :)

I am also a big fan of Reid, he does not get as much credit as he deserves sometimes.

rtmike 09-25-2019 02:07 PM

Yehoodi, we’ll always be here.
We’ll save you a spot, ;)

O.city 09-25-2019 02:21 PM

For Kc and NE this is just kind of a get thru the year without major injuries kinda thing.

What do you guys think gets the 1 seed record wise? Gonna take 14 this year?

Amnorix 09-25-2019 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14477706)
For Kc and NE this is just kind of a get thru the year without major injuries kinda thing.

What do you guys think gets the 1 seed record wise? Gonna take 14 this year?


Yep. NE and KC are strong. VERY strong. Looks like a 2004-type season all over again when the 14-2 Pats had to travel to the 15-1 Steelers. Since the Pats and KC play each other this season, and the winner gets the tie breaker, that could easily decide HFA, either by giving the victor that extra win, or giving them the tie-breaker.

(and the Pats lost to the Steelers in 2004 regular season to put the AFCCG at Heinz Field, where the Pats won)

O.city 09-25-2019 03:07 PM

They play pretty late in the year, which is kinda good and bad I suppose.

I don't know that the Chiefs can really win 15, they have a pretty tough schedule.

New World Order 09-25-2019 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14477783)
They play pretty late in the year, which is kinda good and bad I suppose.

I don't know that the Chiefs can really win 15, they have a pretty tough schedule.

They’re going to win 16!

New World Order 09-25-2019 03:10 PM

I think NE and KC will most likely have 2 losses eachbefore their week 14 matchup.

It’s going to decide HFA

Amnorix 09-25-2019 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14477783)
They play pretty late in the year, which is kinda good and bad I suppose.

I don't know that the Chiefs can really win 15, they have a pretty tough schedule.

They can. You're a Big Dog now. The question is will the players stay focused enough, and the team healthy enough, and will you get a few lucky breaks here and there. When the games are tight between two really good teams, luck often becomes more of a factor. The Welker drop. The Edelman catch. The Tyree catch. Dee Ford offsides. Faulk on 4th and 2 just short. A little break here or there -- a big play that amazingly succeeds...or doesn't...is often what determines the outcome. It's a game of inches.

New World Order 09-25-2019 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 14477801)
They can. You're a Big Dog now. The question is will the players stay focused enough, and the team healthy enough, and will you get a few lucky breaks here and there. When the games are tight between two really good teams, luck often becomes more of a factor. The Welker drop. The Edelman catch. The Tyree catch. Dee Ford offsides. Faulk on 4th and 2 just short. A little break here or there -- a big play that amazingly succeeds...or doesn't...is often what determines the outcome. It's a game of inches.

You won one game by 3 points and went to OT in the second game. That was against the 9th worst d of all-time.

The d is improved this year. It should be good enough to get kc over the hump.

KChiefs1 09-25-2019 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 14477791)
I think NE and KC will most likely have 2 losses eachbefore their week 14 matchup.

It’s going to decide HFA



I’m hoping both are undefeated.

O.city 09-25-2019 03:27 PM

If both are undefeated, that could be unreal.

I don't know that they will be, but damn talk about a prime time one.

Yehoodi 09-25-2019 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14477706)
For Kc and NE this is just kind of a get thru the year without major injuries kinda thing.

What do you guys think gets the 1 seed record wise? Gonna take 14 this year?

First off, yes health is important. Looks like KC and NE will be on each others heels and major injuries could curtail things for one team or the other. Hopefully, both teams will be healthy and let the best team get HFA fair and square. (assuming we end up the top two :) )

As for # of wins, 14 plus the head to head should be enough as that only leaves the other team with having to win every other game to be 15-1. 13 wins and head to head should take it too. But 14 wins could take it if one looses the head to head.

My guess is that both teams will be within one game of each other when we play and the head to head should decide HFA as it happens so late in the season for the loser to make up ground.

Amnorix 09-25-2019 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 14477809)
You won one game by 3 points and went to OT in the second game. That was against the 9th worst d of all-time.

The d is improved this year. It should be good enough to get kc over the hump.


Except that isn't really how it works to be honest. It's more about the health of the teams when they meet, the matchups, and who coaches and performs better that day. The best team doesn't always win. The 2001 Rams and 2007 Patriots (among many others) can tell you all about it.

Yehoodi 09-25-2019 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14477828)
If both are undefeated, that could be unreal.

I don't know that they will be, but damn talk about a prime time one.

That would be great. Would be a great build up. :)

If my memory serves me correct both the Giants and 49ers were 10-0 two weeks away from their MNF showdown in 1990, and the both lost the following weekend and thus were 10-1 when they played. Still a big showdown but not between undefeated teams.

Yehoodi 09-25-2019 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14477783)
They play pretty late in the year, which is kinda good and bad I suppose.

I don't know that the Chiefs can really win 15, they have a pretty tough schedule.

Yah the Chiefs have some tough teams coming up. In not particular order but might give you guys a run is GB, Min, Det, Hou, Indy, NE, and maybe Tenn.

Pats have Hou, Dall, Balt, KC and Phila if they can turn it around.

I hope the Pats will have a two game lead going into the game but not sure if that will happen.

Yehoodi 09-25-2019 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 14477801)
They can. You're a Big Dog now. The question is will the players stay focused enough, and the team healthy enough, and will you get a few lucky breaks here and there. When the games are tight between two really good teams, luck often becomes more of a factor. The Welker drop. The Edelman catch. The Tyree catch. Dee Ford offsides. Faulk on 4th and 2 just short. A little break here or there -- a big play that amazingly succeeds...or doesn't...is often what determines the outcome. It's a game of inches.

As BB says many times that one play . . . just one play can change the result of the game.

And all a team, players and coaches can do do is their best not to make mistakes and let luck go where it goes. It evens out in the end most of the time over a series of games.

Yehoodi 09-25-2019 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 14477809)
You won one game by 3 points and went to OT in the second game. That was against the 9th worst d of all-time.

The d is improved this year. It should be good enough to get kc over the hump.

You may very well be correct, time will tell.

As you D has improve so has our D with the younger guys getting more experience in the system and some additions, namely Collins and Winovich.

As for last season i think both fan bases can take away positives. Chiefs fans can look at the halves KC played well and hope that it can do it for four qtrs.

As a Pats fan kind of the opposite, we held KC in check for 2 qtrs each game and just need to do it for more this time.

Either way should be a fun game.

Yehoodi 09-25-2019 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rtmike (Post 14477676)
Yehoodi, we’ll always be here.
We’ll save you a spot, ;)

Thanks Mate, it is fun posting here . . . :)

Neuromancer 09-25-2019 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 14472878)
It's not gonna happen, but I would love to see the Bills go 4-0 with a surprise upset over the Patriots next weekend.

Yeah I agree. Would love to see Brady and Belichick humbled.....by the Bills lol.

BTW please change your signature. It sounds so ignorant.

New World Order 09-25-2019 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 14477890)
Except that isn't really how it works to be honest. It's more about the health of the teams when they meet, the matchups, and who coaches and performs better that day. The best team doesn't always win. The 2001 Rams and 2007 Patriots (among many others) can tell you all about it.

I’m just saying Mahomes is a completely different animal.

Qbs like Brees can’t eben get his teams into the postseason with a god awful defense. Mahomes leads KC to a 1 seed.

Get him a bit of help defensively and we’ll be unstoppable.

lcarus 09-25-2019 04:39 PM

Buffalo is looking like they might take a playoff spot. Probably gonna have to be a wild card spot but still.


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