Chiefs and Chris Jones working towards a long term deal. .
 

not sure how valid this source is. .

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> are planning to keep DL Chris Jones.</p>&mdash; Chiefs Daily (@chiefsdaily15) <a href="https://twitter.com/chiefsdaily15/status/1246047349031526401?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 3, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>



<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> &amp; Jones will work towards a long-term deal even though it will be very tough. Both sides have interest. Let’s see what happens. <br><br>News came from <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AdamSchefter</a></p>&mdash; Chiefs Daily (@chiefsdaily15) <a href="https://twitter.com/chiefsdaily15/status/1246048289885167616?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 3, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


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lets go!

he says Adam is the source but nothing on Adams page..anyone know if this is a reliable source (Chiefs Daily)

40 million dollar contract

5 mill a year for 8 years.

Pretty sure schefter reported a couple months ago that the chiefs wanted to keep jones.

Hell yeah Veach is a genius!!!!!!!

We might be able to run it back if The Landlord and Reek can find a way to overcome their offseason differences

Brett Veach is going be legendary GM of all time.



He is working on getting us out of cap hell that John Dorsey put us in and he has revamped this defense to go along with this offense so it's balanced and our special teams contributes and this GM is young and makes bold decisive moves. Also he doesn't put himself out there like look at me he stays in the shadows and lets everyone else take the credit.

He deserves his place in the CROH when it is time for him to retire and that should be many years from now.

This is what theyve said the whole time. Actions sort of say otherwise. What else are they gonna say as long as hes still on the roster?

The Chiefs were never really in cap hell dude.

Schefter did a #AskAdamSchefter thing on twitter and one of the questions was about Jones. That is where the guy in the OP got his info.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Q: What are the chiefs planning on doing with Chris Jones? <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AskAdamSchefter?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AskAdamSchefter</a><br>- <a href="https://twitter.com/Elliott_Duncan?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Elliott_Duncan</a><br><br>A: <a href="https://t.co/JpzgzTiaUs">pic.twitter.com/JpzgzTiaUs</a></p>&mdash; The Boardroom (@boardroom) <a href="https://twitter.com/boardroom/status/1245815474249662474?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 2, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I’d love to keep him.

I can also be on board with trading him. My fear with trading him is that we’ll have to take lesser compensation at this point. If someone wanted to make a strong offer, wouldn’t they have already done so? If you liked Chris Jones enough to give up a first, why would you risk him signing a long term deal with the Chiefs?

yeah, I still don't see how it's possible.

To get a long term deal?

It would actually lower his cap number this year since you can fanagle the numbers around.

Whatever Veach decides I'm good with.

If you say so but working with $177 if that's accurate isn't very good either bro.

That is mainly because of the deals Veach signed.....

So, basically, absolutely zero new info.

Just the same thing we already knew.

That won us a Super Bowl so I'm giving Veach credit where credit is do.


We are also keeping much of the team intact for another glorious run to the Super Bowl so we got that going for us thanks in part by Brett Veach. Am I wrong? You can continue to pointlessly point out anything you want but still Veach is making us Super Bowl Champions and for that I am grateful and Dorsey was fired for a reason or two so I'm going assume and no ****s given if I'm wrong that partly was because of deals he made that were hurting our cap space and Clark Hunt felt the need to fire him in place for Brett Veach and it's paid off.

yeah, but the bill comes due regardless. If the cap hit is less this year, it'll be more next year, and the year after that.

And in the next year or so we're going to have Mahomes' deal on the table.

I don't see how you can pay 1/2 of your front 4 $45 million per.

This. It sounded like Schefter was speculating, not reporting a new lead. womp womp.

This is pretty much all that needs to be said.

For the first time in 25 years, I'm not the least bit worried about what the Chiefs do in the off-season.

We have the best QB on the planet, one of the best head coaches in NFL history, a 2 time Super Bowl winning defensive coordinator who completely changed the culture in one single year, & Clark and Mathieu to lead that unit on the field. Not to mention one of the best young GM's in football.

No matter what happens with Chris Jones, the Chiefs will win the AFC West next year and be right in the mix to win another Super Bowl title. It is such a great feeling to know that we don't have to stress over every single move they make anymore.

I don't see how this can happen and not screw our cap totally up. The only way is if Chris came down on his demands. He was offered 100 for 6 and declined last year. 810 reported that.

:clap: Well said.

Good post, noob.

Yeah, water is still wet

Maybe. Eventually Mahomes $40 million contract needs to be paid and we are going to lose essential players. Thats our life as fans going forward. But.............we have Patrick ****ing Mahomes. Life is good! :thumb:

Agreed. Solid n00b post.

Clearly KC is the place to be. This is special.

Has he even signed his franchise tag yet?

Funny that 810 is the only one that’s reported that.

Does anyone know what the cutoff date is for coming to an agreement with a tagged player? Seems like that is a thing, that you have to make a deal by a certain date or it has to wait until after the season.

I could definitely be wrong about that but seems like I heard that at one point.

July 15th

I think he hasn’t signed it yet because he’s hoping a long term deal can be reached. Also rumors are Chiefs May be bringing Breeland back as well. Every move Veach has made this offseason is a 1 year deal

wheres the rumor coming from? just fans speculating or an actual source talking about it?

I wondered if they were working to free up money to get Breeland back

My understanding is that it is not enough. To bring Breeland back, most likely have to sign and trade Jones. Breeland is probably looking at 10+, so 5 in cap space ...

it looks like sammy got us just enough to sign the draft class if im not mistaken.

Signing it doesnt change anything as far as working on a long term deal. They'd still have until July to finalize a deal regardless of if hes signed his franchise tag or not. I think there is some implication with possible trades that he has to be signed for a trade to actually happen though.

If Breeland was going to get 10+ he would have signed somewhere by now. I think it's pretty clear the market for him isn't what he thought it was. There are still quite a few other veteran corners out there that are muddying the market and keeping the value down. I'll be shocked if he gets close to $10 million.

True, which would lead you to believe more moves have to be coming. We have to have room to add a veteran corner and some other veterans here or there to fill out the roster.

It's always a good post for a NOOB when antifreeze and ingestion is not mentioned.;)

Get it done, Veeeeeeeeeotch!

Maybe. But the money we just freed up is probably headed to the draft class. So he is going to have to do something else to free up any money for Breeland. Would think he would want something long term at a minimum averaging 7-8. That and whatever we do with Jones we have to keep his cap number for this year at the franchise tag number.

Be very impressed if able to bring back both Jones and Breeland.

According to spotrac and overthecap we are still up against the cap. With somewhere around 3-4 mil in space but not counting robinson or sherman.

Chiefs could have probably $40 million in cap space by:

Restructure (salary into signing bonus) Clark and Mathieu
Cut LDT after June 1
Extend Chris Jones and Travis Kelce (though both players may not want that)

It's enough if they give him more than a one year deal. Give him 3 years for $25 million. Give him a $9 million signing bonus and league minimum this season. Cap hit would be around $4 million.

As much as I'd be fine with cutting LDT, could we really replace him with anyone better this year?

Breeland isn't getting 10 a year, Chris Harris barely got that.

Kelce will not sign an extension until Kittle does just an FYI

This. I'm doubtful that there's an upgrade replacement for LDT out there this season. And Andy's blocking schemes can be pretty complex; is there a OG out there that can pick up his schemes that quickly, especially if there's no OTAs/abbreviated TC this season?

As for LDT himself, I don't think we can really judge his abilities on his performance for most of last season. It was his first season back from breaking his leg; it was always going to take most of of or all the season for him to get back to his pre-injury form. It'd be interesting to see how he performed in the playoffs vs. the first 8 weeks of the season to see how he trended. I'm betting he was significantly better in the playoffs.

Which could mean that he could be solid in the upcoming season as his confidence in his leg has grown.

I think they like LDT. Another year healthy, hope Rankin can come back healthy. iIf you can upgrade center, LDT is now your worst linemen. and thats a pretty damn nice place to be.

By that time we will be replacing guys like Kelce, Fisher, Schwartz and others with younger, cheaper options.

I think people are kinda missing that we're 2-3 years away from having to use high picks on OT's.

We’re also 2-3 years away from Mahomes having a really big cap hit.

And we arent really in "dire" need of IOL either. It would be a very nice upgrade, but we basically won the superbowl with what we have except we lost wis. We will get Rankin back at some point and i expect him to start at LG.

Just because that exact formula worked last year that doesn't mean it will work again. What happens when interior pressure gets Mahomes injured again, except this time it's for more than 2 games? Or what happens when Mahomes has an off game, and the interior OL is getting their shit pushed in as always so we're not able to lean on the run game?

You can't have elite players everywhere, the biggest hole on the team is coverage LB. it's why every damn team we play throws to their backs and TE's over and over.

In 31 games, Mahomes has proven his off game is usually good enough to win. Case in point would be the last game we saw.

This. Worst case Rankin and Wis are a wash imo. Rankin came in and did work for a guy who had only been in the system a few weeks. Wis was a street mid season free agent.

And they got their S pushed in in the super bowl, but so did green bay and everyone else who played san fran in the playoffs. I'm not taking a first second or probably even third round center/guard unless hes a truly elite prospect. Like running back the value just isnt there. In fact im personally 5x more likely to go running back before guard, or center. The demand just isnt there to take them high.

:doh!:

C'mon Veachy ...

Get this done.

Everybody!! Send Jones a tweet and tell him to make a deal. And, if necessary, to fire his agent.

FAX

Mitchell Schwartz and Eric Fisher will both be free agents in 2 years. I could see us re-signing one but not both. So if we wait 2 years, are we relying on a rookie to man one of the tackle positions?

Absolutely!

I hope Jones retires a Chief. He is on a HOF trajectory.

Wouldn’t it be nice for 3rd rounder Dorian O’Daniel to live up to his potential this season? I was high on him coming out of the draft. I watched Ben Niemann’s entire career at Iowa, and never would have dreamed he’d see an NFL field more than O’Daniel.

That would be nice. It would have been nice to have seen him last season as a coverage backer on 3rd down, but alas that never happened. If he couldn't even get on the field towards the end of last year I don't have much faith that he can finally put it together this year, but I hope I'm wrong. It would be interesting to know what specifically his problems have been.

Ain't no advertising dollars for Mack with Trubisky.
Now Christopher Jones and Mahomes = $$$

Rankin was a small improvement over the complete dumpster-fire that Wylie is.

That's not nearly good enough.

We have ONE real unicorn, and that's Patrick ****in' Mahomes.

We must do a better job of protecting him.

Nothing else is as important. Not ****ing linebackers covering RB's, nobody can score fast enough to keep up with us that way as long as that's all they've got.

We need to improve that interior line. Rankin is not a wash with Wisniewski, that's completely stupid. Wylie is complete ass, and Reiter is a back-up at best. LDT wasn't looking great, but perhaps it's issues from the injury.

We need at least two upgrades from guard to guard.

And we need a blue-chip corner. And we need a cover backer. It'd be nice if O'Daniel would develop.

But don't you dare put your SB aspirations on Martinis ****in' Rankin being good enough.

Anyway...back to Jones.

I want this guy in Red for his career.

FYP

Andy likes to keep the same players for as long as possible. Not surprised.

Did we sign this Pro Bowler yet?

Can't wait to see what Super Bowl Champion Gehrig Dieter can do for us this year!

We’re beyond the point of needing to. The doc’s play slipped this year and our c and otherG are ass. Pat’s mobility makes them look respectable.

When his ankle was hurt he got killed back there...

Yea cuz Erving sucks ass

Every time I see this gif, I get this mental image.

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Im wondering if having a shit brick playing center is the reason why LDT didn't look very good. Having a bad center can make the whole interior line look bad. The C is responsible for shifts and other things. Draft a good C and the whole line will improve.

Did he get killed back there?

Chiefs allowed one of the lowest sack rates in the league and the 7th fewest QB hits.

Our running game struggles mightily because of our interior OL. I’ll never argue that.

Our pass protection isn’t as bad as some believe though. Even with Cam Erving starting games at LT and Mahomes being hobbled for most of the season, we still ranked among the best in sacks allowed and QB hits allowed.

If you think our pass protection is THAT bad, I’d love to see a stat that backs that up. Granted, Mahomes was hurried and hit a lot in the Super Bowl, but the 49ers DL is not the norm.

Just to clarify my point.

I don’t think we have a great OL. I just don’t think the pass protection specifically is as bad as some believe.

I think we may be biased as Chiefs fans:

1. Every hit on Mahomes seems worse to us, because we realize exactly how important he is.
2. We were spoiled in the early 2000’s with an unrealistic idea of what an OL should look like.

If there is a stat out there that confirms that our pass protection sucks, I’d absolutely accept that. I just haven’t seen a stat that says that.

Also, the Mahomes mobility argument doesn’t really convince me (at least not after this year). He practically played on one leg for most of the year and we still ended up with some of the best pass protection numbers in the league.