Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 15249679)

"You don't have to pay me, the Jets will pay me" ROFLLMAO

Originally Posted by Boon (Post 15249770)

Can he block?

Originally Posted by Jerok (Post 15249772)

He was great in Pittsburgh, and bad with the Jets.

Like everything else, we have to see if it was just the Jets being terrible or if he actually declined.

Originally Posted by Jerok (Post 15249772)

He was great in Pittsburgh, and bad with the Jets.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 15249672)

Well, certainly not 2018 because he didn't play that year.

I quoted his last season with the Steelers and even the fact that he averaged 90 yards per game with the Jets, the worst team in the league by a wide margin, and all I've heard back is "We'll see".

Look, if Reid can get 90 total yards of offense from Bell and 90 totals yard from CEH, this offense will be on pace to match the 2018 offense.

This move isn't about plugging in a former superstar and expecting him to take over the offense. This move is about a complimentary back to CEH and adding a very versatile player to an offense that already features a lot of versatile players.

Now, maybe Bell absolutely blows up, which would be amazing and awesome for sure. But whatever the case may be, he's at least going to be a great 2nd option for Reid at running back, which is really all anyone can ask for at this point in the season, especially a season as weird as 2020.

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 15249678)

I hope he blows up...KC is looking to get some nice comp picks from Watkins, Bell, Breeland and potentially Taco/Okafor.

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 15249695)

Why is that funny? Unless you thought I meant Speaks and not Bashaud...

I'll admit the comp formula is convoluted but I dont see KC being big spenders in FA next season.

Does losing these players not account for comp picks? Everyone of these players cost KC nothing but salary...Belichick built a career on accumulating comp picks by letting high-priced players walk.

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 15249826)

I realize it's the Jets

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 15249830)

If you think we get anything for Breeland, Taco and or Okafor you are not thinking clearly.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 15249846)

No, I don't think you do.

The NFL is set up for parity. Every team has the same Salary Cap and nearly the same exact revenue stream (merch can skew that number a bit but it's nothing massive). It takes catastrophic management and ownership to go 0-16.

The Jets are an epic disaster across the board. They need new ownership and a complete reboot. To claim that Bell somehow "slipped" in New York is to completely ignore the chaos around the franchise that's existed for decades. The Jets are heading for 0-16 in an era where every team has a shot at a title with the right personnel, front office and coaching staff.

They suck ass and might go down as the worst team in NFL history, surpassing the 2008 Lions.

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 15249729)

There's a segment who can't get over him sitting out the last franchise year for the Steelers. And won't, ever.

That's OK. Small minds.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15249875)

They franchised him TWICE. He's a RB. The franchise tag offers zero long-term security.

Somebody already mentioned it - the Titans faced the same situation with Travis Henry, who also happens to be 26, and they paid him.

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 15249826)

Okay, 2019 is what I look at as well. The 3.2 average yards per carry concerns me. I realize it's the Jets, but last time he played for the Steelers he hit exactly 4.0 yards per carry in a nearly ideal scenario that seemed made for him. I do like his receiving ability. My go forward is I'm gonna trust Reid/Veach on this. Unlike McCoy, it isn't some long lost past connection. Hopefully they saw what they wanted on tape that is recent enough to convince them he can fit well and help the team improve.

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15249883)

LMAO

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 15249874)

The Jets went 7-9 in 2019, though. I'm not looking at anything from 2020.

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 15249855)

It depends on how much another team pays them...Taco is only in game 5 of his reclamation project.

We'll see if he does anything that warrants getting decently paid somewhere else.

Corners typically get paid...otherwise KC would just keep him.

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 15249874)

The Jets went 7-9 in 2019, though. I'm not looking at anything from 2020.

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 15249902)

Yes it is early that is why we have no idea and history is against Taco bringing us a comp pick.
Nobody wanted that corner last year coming off of very good play in the playoffs and Super Bowl. Doubt that changes this offseason.

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 15249917)

Clark cancelled out losing Houston....

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 15249918)

The Jets are so bad that through 5 games, they've only scored 75 points.

The Chiefs have scored 149 points through 5 games.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 15249921)

LMAO

No.

The Chiefs were never going to receive a Comp Pick for Frank Clark because he was traded to the Chiefs from Seattle.

The Chiefs were never going to receive a Comp Pick for Justin Houston because he was cut by the Chiefs.

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15249934)

That team is already bad as it gets, but when they have Flacco as opposed to Darnold, it’s definitely the worst team ever.

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15249934)

That team is already bad as it gets, but when they have Flacco as opposed to Darnold, it’s definitely the worst team ever.

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 15249965)

I hope I'm wrong, but I'll go on record as "meh" on this signing.

I know the improvement at RB isn't a bad thing, but I've just never been a big fan of his running style and I don't think it works with this Oline and blocking scheme.

Originally Posted by CarlosCarson88 (Post 15249989)

Don't you dare. Flacco is much better than Darnold.
Much better.

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 15249917)

I'm also curious if, hypothetically, cheaply acquiring Earl Thomas for a late season SB push...would prove a good investment from a comp pick standpoint. He'll get paid decently next year once he redeems himself.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 15249967)

I just don't know how they even win a single game this year. They've traded away or cut their best talent, CJ Mosley opted out and their roster mainly consists of garbage players.

It would be shocking if they go 1-15.

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 15249965)

I hope I'm wrong, but I'll go on record as "meh" on this signing.

I know the improvement at RB isn't a bad thing, but I've just never been a big fan of his running style and I don't think it works with this Oline and blocking scheme.

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15250004)

Holy Shit!!

Osemele may not be done for the year. He don’t play this week but there are rumors he may try and play through the injury

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15249995)

Drop the Earl Thomas thing, man.

The dude can't run anymore. He was a liability for the Ravens last season, a cancer for them this season and not deemed worth signing by ANYONE this season.

He's a name. That's it. He can't run anymore and he thinks he's still the same guy from 5-6 years ago.

I'm not interested in another Ron Parker type-liability.

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 15250048)

I was not at all excited about LeSean McCoy last year, because I just felt like he hit that wall that RBs hit and he was done. I am stoked for Bell and think that he can look like his old self.

Mccoy was 31 when he signed here and had already had 2300+ carries and just under 500 receptions. That's just below 3000 touches. That's a shit ton.

Leveon Bell on the other hand is only 28 and has significantly less wear and tear than McCoy had. He has under 1400 carries and under 400 receptions. He has about 1000 less touches than McCoy and is still in his prime technically.

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 15250062)

Osmele returns later this season? Reid didnt say he was done, no IR move and he posted a pic of himself at the gym yesterday.

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 15250065)

Yeah the pic in the gym was interesting for a guy who it sounds like tore every ligament in his body on one play.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15250006)

He had 66 receptions for 461 yards last year.

He would have been the 4th-best receiver (after Sammy Watkins) on a Chiefs team that is loaded with pass catchers.

As a RB, he's a backup. Nothing more. As a pass catcher, he's a potential difference maker, especially considering Sammy Watkins is out for a bit.

You gotta look at the big picture.

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 15250065)

Yeah the pic in the gym was interesting for a guy who it sounds like tore every ligament in his body on one play.

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 15250062)

Osmele returns later this season? Reid didnt say he was done, no IR move and he posted a pic of himself at the gym yesterday.

Originally Posted by seaofred (Post 15250375)

This year, isn't IR only 3 weeks? So are they thinking he could be back sooner than 3 weeks?

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15250424)

It makes you wonder what he tore if they think he can come back.

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 15250435)

To my knowledge, the only tendons in the knee are the quadriceps and patellar... no way you could play if they were ruptured. But maybe they’re small tears?

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15250405)

They haven't even put him on IR yet.

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 15250506)

Meniscus?

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15250024)

LE'VEON BELL DESTROYS THE NEW YORK JETS

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 15250565)

Sure wish we still had Wisniewski

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 15250544)

Sure hope this works out. I am not sure it will. Might be on par with the McCoy signing last season. It sure could be a lot better though.

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 15250577)

There's really nothing to support your lack of confidence here.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 15250575)

Being better than bad doesn't make him good.

The guy has had 27 starts in past 5 years or 27 out of 80.

He's a JAG.

He's better than Cam Erving or Wylie but he's still a JAG.

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 15250595)

My comment was more about how that line in his video game is no comparison to the line we have now as a whole.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 15250611)

Wisnewski wasn't as good as Osemele and Wylie and LDT are just about dead even.

Schwartz is playing through injury, which makes the right side of the line look worse than it should this year.

Wisnewski started two regular season games last year by the time he got the nod, so it's not like the Chiefs lost some awesome 16 or 19 game starter.

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 15250616)

That may be but this line today is not near as good as that line was at the end of last year. Maybe/Hopefully they can get there.

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 15250656)

I think a lot of people think Bell is like Antonio Brown.


Antonio Brown is not only a legit crazy person he's also still under investigation for more than one sexual assault.

Bell just sat out a year rather than sign a shitty contract and get run into the ground. He's not AB.

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 15250656)

I think a lot of people think Bell is like Antonio Brown.


Antonio Brown is not only a legit crazy person he's also still under investigation for more than one sexual assault.

Bell just sat out a year rather than sign a shitty contract and get run into the ground. He's not AB.

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 15250544)

Sure hope this works out. I am not sure it will. Might be on par with the McCoy signing last season. It sure could be a lot better though.

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 15250682)

Bell has 9 career fumbles (none since 2017)... McCoy has 25 career fumbles.

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 15250616)

That may be but this line today is not near as good as that line was at the end of last year. Maybe/Hopefully they can get there.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15250756)

Better comparison.

McCoy - 1 fumble every 120 touches for his career.

Bell - 1 fumble every 200 touches for his career.

Bell is dramatically better at ball security.

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15250762)

I just don't want Andy falling into the trap of running more on 1st down. Im most interested in what Bell can do for the passing game since hes effective lining up as a WR option as well.