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RedandGold 07-03-2020 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 15049844)
Washington Sentinels please.

This! :thumb:

The Franchise 07-03-2020 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Chieftain (Post 15049915)
I was talking to a friend of mine who is very knowledgeable about the history of the NFL and who is no liberal by any means. He said that the term Redskin was used back in the day as a slur to refer to Indians similar to how the use of the N word refers to Blacks.

You don’t say!?

OrtonsPiercedTaint 07-03-2020 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 15049769)
This is an interesting concept....would be funny if the side effect of all of this is the NFL getting out of a contract with Nike.

Could you imagine the free-for-all this would create with companies scrambling to sign with each individual team?

So if they change the name. Anybody can make Redskins apparel, which fans will want.. Talk about lost revenue.

ToxSocks 07-03-2020 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 15049897)
If they change the name then Synder will lose any respect he had among the Skins fans. They will be flying banners calling for him to sell the team. Defending the name is the only thing they praised him for and the only thing keeping from a full out fan revolt.

I am betting the fanbase doubles and triples down on the Indian iconography.

The fans will get over it. Whether or not fans respect Snyder won't change his bottom line. At the end of the day it's about the team. Fans care much more about the team than the team's owner. If Snyder can figure out how to build a winning team the fans won't give a shit about Snyder or the name of the team.

JD10367 07-03-2020 11:14 AM

I'm not sure why anyone has an issue with this (although it's humorous watching white people try to defend it). This isn't a flattering name, like "braves". It doesn't denote leadership, like "chiefs". It doesn't denote a group nationality, like "indians" (which, sure, is technically incorrect, but it's not our fault the dumbasses who first landed here thought they'd made it to India... so, "Indians" it is, for Native Americans, like it or not). The word "redskins" is literally nothing but a derogatory term for their skin color. Why don't we have a southern team called the Blackskins or Darkies, doesn't that sound good? Hey, San Fran has a huge Asian population, how about we change their name to the Yellows or Chinks? There is not one good brain cell of a reason to defend the name "Redskins". Change it back to Braves, change it to Nationals, whatever. ****ing team's only been around since 1937 and some of you act like they want to tear down Confederate war statues...

Zebedee DuBois 07-03-2020 11:18 AM

They should change it to the most powerful group in America: the Washington Lobbyists.

ToxSocks 07-03-2020 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 15049954)
I'm not sure why anyone has an issue with this (although it's humorous watching white people try to defend it). This isn't a flattering name, like "braves". It doesn't denote leadership, like "chiefs". It doesn't denote a group nationality, like "indians" (which, sure, is technically incorrect, but it's not our fault the dumbasses who first landed here thought they'd made it to India... so, "Indians" it is, for Native Americans, like it or not). The word "redskins" is literally nothing but a derogatory term for their skin color. Why don't we have a southern team called the Blackskins or Darkies, doesn't that sound good? Hey, San Fran has a huge Asian population, how about we change their name to the Yellows or Chinks? There is not one good brain cell of a reason to defend the name "Redskins". Change it back to Braves, change it to Nationals, whatever. ****ing team's only been around since 1937 and some of you act like they want to tear down Confederate war statues...

As RainMan said, for those people defending this it's not really about the name so much as it as about not giving in to what they believe is a slippery slope that could eventually affect teams like the Chiefs.

I understand that concern. I get it. Because their WILL be some bitch from some organization that claims to be offended. And yeah, maybe "they" will try to go after the Chiefs once the Redskins cave.

But my hope is that common sense will prevail for the majority, and the nuance we've pointed out regarding the names would be understood.

Redskins SHOULD be changed. But teams like the Braves, Chiefs etc shouldn't. Hopefully society can tell the difference.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 07-03-2020 11:20 AM

You can't take Alex Smith any where without controversy.

ToxSocks 07-03-2020 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Zebedee DuBois (Post 15049961)
They should change it to the most powerful group in America: the Washington Lobbyists.

LMAO

I like it.

Buddy Rich 07-03-2020 11:20 AM

Since being gay is cool now how about the dc dicklickers?

Deberg_1990 07-03-2020 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15049962)
As RainMan said, for those people defending this it's not really about the name so much as it as about not giving in to what they believe is a slippery slope that could eventually affect teams like the Chiefs.

I understand that concern. I get it. Because their WILL be some bitch from some organization that claims to be offended. And yeah, maybe "they" will try to go after the Chiefs once the Redskins cave.

But my hope is that common sense will prevail for the majority, and the nuance we've pointed out regarding the names would be understood.

Redskins SHOULD be changed. But teams like the Braves, Chiefs etc shouldn't. Hopefully society can tell the difference.

Chiefs isn’t a racial slur like Redskins. Chief is a pretty widely used title and term of respect used all over the business and military worlds.

I could however see them go after the Native American imagery associated with Chiefs like the Arrowhead and Drum stuff, etc. I thought the Chiefs organization had attempted to tone this down anyways in recent years?

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 07-03-2020 11:29 AM

They are now pushing for the Indians, Braces and Chiefs to change their names

ToxSocks 07-03-2020 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15049972)
They are now pushing for the Indians, Braces and Chiefs to change their names

"They" have been pushing for that for years. Hence the reason why the "slippery slope" people don't want the Redskins name changed. But the Redskins name needs to be changed. But the line needs to be drawn there. The concern is whether or not the line will be drawn there.

I have faith that it will. But i understand those that think it won't.

The Franchise 07-03-2020 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 15049954)
I'm not sure why anyone has an issue with this (although it's humorous watching white people try to defend it). This isn't a flattering name, like "braves". It doesn't denote leadership, like "chiefs". It doesn't denote a group nationality, like "indians" (which, sure, is technically incorrect, but it's not our fault the dumbasses who first landed here thought they'd made it to India... so, "Indians" it is, for Native Americans, like it or not). The word "redskins" is literally nothing but a derogatory term for their skin color. Why don't we have a southern team called the Blackskins or Darkies, doesn't that sound good? Hey, San Fran has a huge Asian population, how about we change their name to the Yellows or Chinks? There is not one good brain cell of a reason to defend the name "Redskins". Change it back to Braves, change it to Nationals, whatever. ****ing team's only been around since 1937 and some of you act like they want to tear down Confederate war statues...

The Nationals would be a good one if the baseball team didn’t exist.

loochy 07-03-2020 11:58 AM

What about the Natives.?


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