How many empty store fronts on the Plaza currently?

Why does Shake Shack have to close their dining room early on weekends?

Why did the movie theater close?

What happened to Nordstrom’s moving to the Plaza?

Third World Shithole might be an understatement to describe the current state of affairs on the Plaza.

Obviously they don’t go to the Plaza… because it’s a shitshow there currently.

Empty storefronts, high crime, decrease in visitors, etc.

There are empty store fronts all across the suburbs too...

People in Bangladesh shudder at the thought of a restaurant having to close its dining room early. :eek:

To the same extent as the Plaza?

The Plaza was at 83% occupancy as of the end of 2023. And the Plaza’s owners defaulted last year as well.

And Town Center Plaza and similar places in Johnson County don’t have the high crime issues impacting the Plaza.

Which apt complex was it?

It's a shopping district/center. Turnover of store fronts is normal. The Nordstrom failed not because of crime in the area, but because of COVID fallout to brick and mortar stores.

I'm down there all the time. Walk up during the day from work (my office is adjacent). Go there for dinner. Walk around at night. All four seasons.

Like any shopping area, it has the occasional influx of teenagers up to no good as they try to kill time. But it is not an unsafe place by any means.

The truth is that there really is not an unsafe area in Kansas City outside of the Crime Square of 20th North to 40th South, The Paseo to the West to Prospect to the East. That area is where the overwhelming majority of serious or violent crime in Kansas City occurs.

Am I in DC again?


I thought this was a thread about our new WR?

KC isn't quite 90s Iran just yet. But vehicular theft is currently way out of control, and it's been that way since the pandemic. I had my vehicle stolen at the end of 22. If you reference StolenKC, every damn day you'll see another Hellcat or similar type car stolen. Cops don't have the resources to deal with it, and the thieves know that.

I think Hollywood's chances of a second contract with the Chiefs have increased significantly this offseason.

Had my car stolen in Los Angeles and called the cops to tell them I had video of the crime. They never showed up, went into the police station on the 3rd day and the cop just laughed at me. The place was a ****ing zoo, constant fire alarms during the approx 1 hr I was there, an old lady's house was actively being broken into after the cops just chased off the same guy, they didn't want to go back just told her to close her doors lol, a 7-11 was held up at gun point by two teens, and there was a massive DUI car accident right in front of the station. I teased him that they're so understaffed he should think about changing sides, he teased back "think about it all the time."

Cop is a shit job, they need waaaaaay more resources than they currently have, which atleast out here turns them bad sometimes. I've heard so many terrible cop stories out here, they're the most feared gang in LA.

But I expect him to do so well that he may price himself out of a second kc contract. Which is why I wish we had done it now

He wasn't going more than 1 year at that price, he's banking on a big year to get paid.

His car was broken into in KC.

I expect Brown to do well too. But he's still going to be small with a checkered production history and injury concerns. So maybe his next contract will also be reasonable.