If this bothers you, I certainly wouldn't get too close to the DC forum.

Most years would I would agree. But staring down a 3 peat I’m all in on using our pick in the first.

wtf

I think Ricky Pearsall is the receiver nobody is really talking about that Veach/Reid may fall in love with. The ability to separate is crucial in this offense. Pearsall with a great 3-cone drill. His combine numbers across the board were damn good. Tough kid.

LMAO

The durag take is one of my favorites ever

Fair enough.

Maybe trading back like 10 spots instead of 20 without moving up later would be more palatable.

Can’t argue either way though.

Can we get an edit of Mark Davis as durag Vince McMahon?

Statistically speaking the odds of a 3 peat are a long shot. Maybe we should play it smart.

Well we’ve got the best odds of anybody in the NFL to pull it off ya know?

No doubt. Just internally debating all day how “all in” the front office is.

Give me Pearsall or Ladd McConkey! I'll take either one in a heartbeat!

So, I stipulated beforehand that I felt racist for saying it.

However, I have watched a bunch of media crap with Pierce, including several player podcasts, and he talked about growing up in Compton, and proud he was of that fact, etc. And that, and several other things I heard make me believe he values a certain amount of "hood" in his players.

Whoever drafts Michael penix is wasting a pick. Kid is a bust. 23 years old, 6 years in college, he only started doing good at the end of his college career cause he was older than every kid on the field and had much more knowledge on the college level. Bust, bust, BUST!!

I would not spend a high pick on him.

Rather give the Jets a 5th for Zach Wilson.

That is a complete waste of a 5th round pick.

Better than spending a 1st on Penix.

Try reading the words I wrote.

I can reading you ****ing moron. What part of spending a fifth round pick on Zach Wilson is a waste is it that you can't comprehend?

I have a hunch that Veach and Andy have had their fair share of dink and dunk offense the past couple years and are going to all they can to evolve their game changing field stretcher back in the fold.

Have to believe Worthy is atop the wish list for that reason alone. A perfect complement to stretch the whole field with their YAC guys already on the roster.

My words were a response to another post.

You missed that and sound reeruned.

We had Mecole and MVS.

And we still threw 20 sideways passes a game.

How many times does it have to be explained that Worthy can actually track the ball?

None of the guys named above by MM can or have run a single route like this: https://x.com/noflagsfilm/status/176...341926043?s=46

And here’s another play that Hardman, who I do like and want back, has never been able to make: https://x.com/jetpackgalileo/status/...365762169?s=46

The ironic thing too is despite Mecole’s warts, it was the games he was healthy and integrated this year that we actually showed a somewhat steady threat of the down field pass LMAO

They love to have a guy who can run the deep over with speed efficiency and that’s going to be Worthy — the best they can get since Hill

I think his ball tracking is elite.

He is only 165 pounds, but he has two elite traits, speed and ball tracking.

Looks like a much better route runner than tyreek was coming out of college, is pretty young so his frame should fill out still not sure we can go up and get him though.

If we go with th WR in the first no matter which 1 , the rest of the league is going to be annoyed.

Amazing OL group if you need an RT or IOL. Not that amazing for LTs honestly.

After the Alt/Fashanu sweepstakes, you have a lot of hope for some day 2 guys. If you think Guyton can play LT, which I've wavered on, he might be there. Suamataia might actually be LT #3 and he's kind of top-50-ish. Kiran Amegadjie and Patrick Paul are late 2s. Maybe Christian Jones in 2 or 3. Not much out there.

If you want an RT, swing away. You have Latham, Fuaga, Mims, Guyton, Fisher, Gonclaves, and Suamataia played there too. If you squint hard you might move Mims over to LT and hope you mold that clay.

What a great name - look at that Ladd go!

Running a better route than Mecole isn’t the bar for me.

MM - you’ve finally hit 500 posts.

That means you can return to your real home now at CPDC

Please go home and stay there and don’t call anybody names

Nope.

Why dont you make a football point if this is where you belong?

Let’s see it.

Ahem.

He's old.

Veach don't draft old guys.

The Chiefs did have one of Florida WR’s success stories in DeMarcus Robinson.

Sneed was 23.

Yeah, I don't think that's a factor considering Veach's penchant to turn and burn players who contribute but aren't stars.

He was taken in the fourth round. If Pearsall is still there in that round then OK. But I don't see it. Plus many think he's just a slot guy which isn't ideal.

He's not just a slot...

Folks are saying him and Ladd are slot guys only!!...I'm open to Ladd if he can work outside aswell but Pearsall is giving me Alec Pierce vibes which is concerning. If Pearsall can go outside then taking him in the middle rounds could be OK I guess.

You still view Fautanu as a IOL after the combine? that’s where I was leading up to it, but then he tested and measured well.

Give me Ladd if Mitchell is gone, dude has some great hands, runs crisp routes and can stretch the field.

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I like this idea a lot more than some other ones.


The issue is he does thrive in the same areas Rice plays in.

No question that Ladd is a good football player, its getting the 1st round value.

He'll take Skyy's spot if they draft him

Looks like great fit for Andy good routes , can get open quick can play inside and out , seems versatile.

Saw Brugler, Connor Rogers, and Jordan Reid mocks both have us taking Worthy @ 32.

Could be something, could just be speculation based on our history. But EVERYONE is mocking it this week.

In the late 2nd or 3rd and better options are gone? Sure.

I just don’t think he makes it that far

Wasn’t John Ross a late first round mock before his combine?

Lance Zierlein and Hayden Winks at Underdog Fantasy mocked Worthy to the Chiefs as well within the past few days.

I thought he was lower than that but probably.

Before or after his 4.22 performance?

Really? I'm no guru but he looks like a limited passer to me. Maybe a 3rd round flyer for a team that has an alex smith type?

Is he going to make it that far? I figured with that 40 he'd end up in the top 15.

After. Everyone is mocking Worthy to the Chiefs at 32 after the combine, it seems.

If you liked Worthy before the 40, it really shouldn't impact your valuation of him. He was always clearly super fast. Maybe we didn't think 4.21, but 4.30 was easy money.

So I don't know that some team in the top 15 is all the sudden gonna be like, yeah NOW we have to get this guy.

If Veach and Andy want him, they do need to go up to 25 range to ensure he's theirs.

Keep in mind it was no secret that Veach loved Henry Ruggs. He also brought in John Ross to camp and then they traded for Mecole Hardman to come back.

They value that speed component a great deal

Seeing a lot of Franklin and worthy after combine , I think buffalo grabs Adonai , some teams could surprise pick WR Bengals/colts if they don’t plan on signing their Higgins and Pittman maybe TB , I think I prefer Ladd over both this guys , Legette looks like a project, we need someone more polished , Coleman might drop but probably not far enough to get in second . Buffalo has tons of licks I could see them moving up into teens if Thomas is there.

And that's where my opinion swings in the conversation

Is Worthy a better pure WR than McConkey, Coleman, etc? I'm not sure, he may not be but the potential is there.

However I believe with zero doubts that his skill set is what can open up the rest of our offense the most. Having to respect his speed with deep safety help every rep is going to do wonders for guys like Rice and Kelce.

The offense is a living breathing machine, not a sum of its parts. Worthy sets them up to stretch the field for every last yard.

I liked him before. I’m just worried that the 4.22 has some hot seat Gm feeling compelled to take him.

I think if it were as simple as we need a really fast guy to open up the offense, Hardman and his 4.33 40-yard time would have done it. I think if Worthy was capable of being DeVonta Smith, he’d have done it in college. I tend to think as Chiefs fans we to repeat things that have made us successful. In this case, we’ve seen the offense be dynamic with Tyreek and think it could be again with a super speedster. I’m of the mind Tyreek is a Hall of Famer and more often than not, 170 lbs receivers are gadget guys not #1 wideouts.

I posted a few clips in this thread last night to show that Worthy has already shown a route running ability and willingness to compete for the football that neither Hardman nor MVS ever have. That's the differentiator.

He's a 20 year old kid doing things those two never could. I like Mecole, but it's no secret that he and Patrick have never been able to consistently stay on page and that's because Mecole doesn't run through all his routes or compete for the ball. Mahomes has to make perfect throws that fall into his breadbasket for it to work out.

The idea shouldn't be to replicate Tyreek, but rather DeSean Jackson +.

In regards to Worthy...I just don't see a GM rolling the dice on a 172 pounder in the top 20. So let's analyze pick 20 on. Who might pull the trigger before us?

Steelers - No. Not a Steelers move whatsoever.
Dolphins - No. Loaded at receiver tons of other needs.
Eagles - No. Already have two #1 receivers.
Texans - No. Already have Tank Dell for similar role.
Cowboys - Maybe? No clue where their draft needs sit.
Packers - No. Loaded with young receivers.
Bucs - No. Dont have a QB who can take advantage of that speed
Bills - Maybe. Allen has a huge arm Bills need a receiver. Wpuld hate to see him drafted there.
Lions - No. Jameson Williams in similar role
Ravens - Maybe? He and Zay Flowers would be a ridiculous duo. Feels like they will have more pressing needs.
49ers - No. Have Aiyuk and Deebo. Also really like Jennings. Purdy doesn't have the arm to take advantage of that speed.

Bills and Cowboys are the only 2 teams I can see taking him, and the Bills seem to have a preference for bigger WRs.

The Ravens won't pair Flowers with another small WR.

I'm on the horn with the Bucs for pick 26 if Veach/Reid think Worthy is a grand slam. Dont especially want 4.21 speed paired with Josh Allens arm.

Just doesn't feel like a Cowboys move. Dak not really an elite deep ball thrower.

Sometimes it's not about the deep ball as well as getting separation/cover ground on the intermediate level of the field.

Worthy's 10-yard split is very good as well.

Agreed about the Bills. I think they are much more likely to try and get Brian Thomas Jr

This would break my heart.

I'm not going to focus solely on the lower half the round to determine where WRs are going to go. We all know that teams overdraft WRs with as much regularity as they do QBs.

Here's the NFL.com list with their projected needs... I'm just gonna highlight my guess as to the "most likely" landing spots are for WRs in R1...

1 Chicago Bears
Bears' biggest needs: IOL, WR, TE, Edge, CB
2 Washington Commanders
Biggest needs: QB, Edge, WR, IOL, LB
3 New England Patriots
Biggest needs: QB, TE, OT, WR, RB
4 Arizona Cardinals
Biggest needs: WR, DT, IOL, Edge, CB
5 Los Angeles Chargers
Biggest needs: CB, RB, DT, TE, C
6 New York Giants (I think they go for a QB but if not add them)
Biggest needs: DT, RB, IOL, Edge, CB
7 Tennessee Titans
Biggest needs: OT, CB, WR, Edge, RB
8 Atlanta Falcons
Biggest needs: QB, WR, Edge, CB, DT
9 Chicago Bears
10 New York Jets
Biggest needs: OT, WR, S, DT, QB
11 Minnesota Vikings
Biggest needs: QB, Edge, OG, LB, DT
12 Denver Broncos
Biggest needs: QB, DT, TE, CB, Edge
13 Las Vegas Raiders
Biggest needs: QB, IOL, OT, CB, RB
14 New Orleans Saints
Biggest needs: Edge, WR, OT, CB, DT
15 Indianapolis Colts
Biggest needs: DT, WR, CB, Edge, S
16 Seattle Seahawks
Biggest needs: QB, LB, IOL, DT, Edge
17 Jacksonville Jaguars
Biggest needs: Edge, OG, WR, CB, OT
18 Cincinnati Bengals - Maybe but OL and DL need work
Biggest needs: WR, OT, DT, TE, CB
19 Los Angeles Rams
Biggest needs: CB, Edge, S, K, QB
20 Pittsburgh Steelers
Biggest needs: CB, OT, IOL, LB, DT
21 Miami Dolphins
Biggest needs: IOL, S, WR, DT, TE
22 Philadelphia Eagles
Biggest needs: RB, WR, CB, LB, Edge
23 Houston Texans
Texans' biggest needs: OT, DT, CB, Edge, WR
24 Dallas Cowboys
Biggest needs: OT, RB, IOL, CB, WR
25 Green Bay Packers
Biggest needs: S, OT, CB, IOL, Edge
26 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Biggest needs: QB, WR, IOL, S, Edge
27 Arizona Cardinals - if not at 4.
28 Buffalo Bills
Biggest needs: S, DT, Edge, WR, CB
29 Detroit Lions
Biggest needs: CB, OG, Edge, WR, DT
30 Baltimore Ravens
Biggest needs: DT, OG, WR, CB, RB
31 San Francisco 49ers
Biggest needs: CB, Edge, OT, IOL, DT
32 Kansas City Chiefs
Biggest needs: DT, WR, OT, CB, RB

Franklin is only a few months older than Worthy, is taller, weighs more, is fast too and had the second best production in the whole class. Oh, and the icing on the cake is he is a chiefs fan. What does Worthy have that Troy doesn't??

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Oh 100%. That kind of explosiveness on shallow crossers when Kelce and Rice demand so much attention would absolutely wreck shit. Worthy is a punt returner with the ball in his hands. Remarkable for his size at putting his foot in the ground and getting north and south.

With Allen’s arm I could see Buffalo looking for a straight speed option to replace Davis.

This has probably been mentioned, but Worthy met with Andy Reid at the combine

Not sure where to put these but this is rumor season.

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Um, maybe trade back a bit?!?

If somebody else takes Worthy it just means another talented guy falls. I don't think he's worth trading up for, but I'm not a GM.

**** Daniel Jones save that god damn franchise and take some ****ing qb talent to the nfc for Pete’s sake.