Do you all think we sign Yadi and Wong back?

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How did Darvish “work out”? 6/$129 deal. Halfway thru he had been paid $65M and returned only $45M in value. Then dumped for a bucket of shag balls and a large anchovy pizza.

They are expected to announce Yadi coming back this week. I read last week before the Arenado trade that Cards and Wong still communicate but no substance has been shared.

Darvish has been the 3rd best pitcher in the game since about midway through 2019 behind DeGrom and Bieber. What the Cubs traded him for is irrelevant to how he has actually performed. Darvish was 44% of the Cubs pitching WAR last season.

And its way too early to grade what the Cubs got in return because they traded for 4 prospects and 3 havent even played professional baseball yet, but were some of the most expensive signings on the IFA.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Nolan Arenado-to-St. Louis trade is official. Other players in the deal have been informed. The return for the Rockies: Left-hander Austin Gomber and prospects Elehuris Montero (3B), Mateo Gil (3B), Tony Locey (RHP) and Jake Sommers (RHP).</p>&mdash; Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1356432993238343682?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 2, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

only ones I’ve heard of was Gomber and Montero. We give up a future Carlson? Seems like too good of a deal for us. Especially something Mo was involved in.

Montero was more or less expendable as well with the arrival of Arenado and Gorman looming, although Gorman may not stick at 3B defensively.

Same here. Seems like a surprisingly nice trade and will be interesting to hear a little more of how the financial details worked out on the $50M the Rockies are on the hook for.

Just saw this summary on mlbtraderumors

St. Louis is now getting one of the game’s premier infielders, and the team will reportedly add another year and $15MM to Arenado’s contract. As such, he’ll be signed through 2027 at $214MM. The Rockies will absorb $51MM, including some in deferrals, according to Feinsand. The Rockies will pay all of Arenado’s $35MM salary in 2021, Jon Morosi of MLB.com relays.

Along with the added value to his deal, Arenado will be able to opt out of his pact after either of the next two seasons (the Cardinals added the second opt-out as part of the trade; most of the money the Rox owe will be after the opt-outs, Feinsand adds).

the Cardinals gave him more money and another opt-out year? Why? To waive his no trade clause?

Yeah I think it was all part of getting him to waive the no trade clause which I guess is a little odd given that it seems he really wanted out of there.

I guess they are thinking like Holliday and Goldy, they will like it so much, they will chose to stay. STL fans have always appreciated good defense. I could see him staying and becoming a red coater some day.

My understanding the more money and the additional opt-out year was given to appease the MLBPA, which had to sign off on the trade.

The MLBPA is not going to sign off on a trade when a star player loses benefits, potentially hurting future players.

Yep, this exactly. During today's press conference, Arenado says he wants to be in STL for a long time and he recognized that this is player-speak and acknowledged he really meant it.

Wong just signed a two year deal with Milwaukee.

Of course he did, and we will be stuck with broke dick sucks at everything Marp at 2nd base.

I think this will be Edman's role to lose with Marp serving as super-utility/DH.

Or the 2nd game of a double header outfield of O'Neill, Fowler and Carpenter.:banghead:

DH? LMAO

BTW that abomination of a rule wont be in the NL this season.

Looks like Wong received 2/18M with a team option year for another 8M.

Pretty decent price for him and would have been nice to have had him back around that. Roughly what they've handed out to broken relievers in recent years. Guess the Cards may have just penciled in Edman at 2nd and moved on.

Good

Might have been more about the expanded playoffs. I’d though the MLBPA generally likes the DH since it can potentially get another roster spot paid more than a typical bench guy. Also hope it stays gone as well.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">OFFICIAL: The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Angels?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Angels</a> have acquired OF Dexter Fowler and cash considerations from the St. Louis Cardinals. <br><br>Welcome to the Halos, <a href="https://twitter.com/DexterFowler?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DexterFowler</a>! 🙌 <a href="https://t.co/BdcYTW8a0N">pic.twitter.com/BdcYTW8a0N</a></p>&mdash; Los Angeles Angels (@Angels) <a href="https://twitter.com/Angels/status/1357532286556667908?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 5, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

See you in shitville, queer.

In a matter of a week, we’ve resigned Wainwright, traded for Arenado (for peanuts and zero cost in 2021), and somehow got rid of Fowler’s $14+ million for 2021. Well done, Mo. Now get us a pitcher and another bat (besides Yadi).

***Official 2020 STL Cardinals Thread***
 

STL is paying the bulk of his contract so the player to be named later better be someone higher than the single A level.

Cards Social Media Team didn't get the memo that Fowler was getting traded. This was earlier today.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Reunited �� <a href="https://t.co/2jRcKjM0iY">pic.twitter.com/2jRcKjM0iY</a></p>&mdash; St. Louis Cardinals (@Cardinals) <a href="https://twitter.com/Cardinals/status/1357451410636476420?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 4, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I didn’t even see that there was a player coming back to us. Still a good trade, regardless.

OMG this is so much excellent news. PBJPBJPBJ

The Angels are receiving $12.75MM in the deal, Maria Torres of the Los Angeles Times tweets.

Looks like it saves 1.75M and opens up a roster spot.

So Colorado paid to help us get rid of Fowler when they sent us Arenado.

The Cardinals have the best record in the NL, 2nd best record in MLB.

Positive stuff started happening when Carlson went into the #2 hole and Carp went to the bench. Go figure. ;)

wtf happened to the 2021 thread?
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(Royals fan) *Sigh* 'Aww, I remember those days . . . . . '

Yeah, it was exactly 10 days ago. Shut up. :sulk:

I can't seem to find the 2021 thread, either. I just posted on it a few days ago. I'll rely on you geniuses to find it.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Atlanta Braves star Marcell Ozuna was arrested today and charged with aggravated assault strangulation and misdemeanor battery - family violence in Sandy Springs, Ga., according to jail records on the Fulton County (Ga.) website.</p>&mdash; Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1398811211672793090?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 30, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mods, can you please lock this thread since BRC can’t seem to figure out years?