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pr_capone 08-10-2016 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12361601)
Well, this is interesting:

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/08/10...trek-tv-series

Star Trek: Major details revealed about new TV show

'Discovery' to focus on a female lieutenant commander, set in pre-Kirk era


The showrunner behind the new Star Trek TV series just revealed a lot of fresh information about the new series – including that the upcoming series will focus on a female lead character, likely played by a diverse actress, who will be a lieutenant commander on a starship.

At the Television Critics Association’s press tour in Beverly Hills on Wednesday, writer-producer Bryan Fuller took questions from critics. Star Trek is being rebooted for the small screen next January as Star Trek: Discovery, which will launch on CBS and then exclusively switch to the network’s streaming service CBS Access. A Trek series previously had a female lead, Voyager, which ran from 1995 to 2001 and starred Kate Mulgrew.

Live updates:

– In a teaser video, Fuller is quoted saying, “We’re telling a Star Trek novel over 13 episodes,” which hints at a very serialized storyline instead of an episodic one.

– Fuller on the premise: “There’s an incident and and event in Star Trek history, that’s been talked about but never been explored. To do this series, we’re telling a much more serialized story, to dig deep into a very tantalizing [storyline. And we have a character who’s on a journey, and in order to understand something that is alien she first has to understand herself.” The event is somehing that was referneced in the original series, but not the Romulan War (“close,” he says), or Section 31 (but that could play a role), or Kirk wrestling with the Kobayashi Maru test. It’s only been referenced, never seen, he said.

– On casting a diverse cast: “Star Trek started with a wonderful expression of diversity in its cast … our lead of the show is going to be subject of that same level, of who’s the best actor and also what can we say about diversity on the show. We haven’t cast her yet, so we don’t know what level of diversity she will be, but that’s forefront in our minds. We’ll probably have a few more aliens than you typically have on the show. We wanted to paint a picture of Starfleet where we’re going to have new exciting aliens and also new imagining of existing aliens.” Fuller noted some of the changes might upset hardcore fans used to seeing things a certain way. “We’re producing the show in 2016. We have to update the style of the effects, the style of the sets, the style of the makeup.”

– Fuller says he spoke Mae Jemison, the first black woman in space, while thinking about how to cast this role. “It was interesting to send her outlines and start talking about the character and get her perspective on what it’s like for a woman in the sciences now when we still have a lot of issues with women and race and how that’s going to be 250 years in the future when the world gets its s–t together and equality is a thing that’s more accepted.”

– The star won’t be the captain but rather be a lieutenant commander, “with caveats,” he said. “We’ve seen six series from the captain’s point of view, to see a character from a different perspective on the starship, one who has a diff dynamic relationships with a captain with subordinates, it gave us richer context.”

– Gay characters? “Absolutely we’re having a gay character,” Fuller said. He noted that as a gay man working on Voyager he had a file full of hate mail when there was a rumor that a character on his show was going to be gay. So he was determined if he ever did his own Star Trek show that he would have a gay character. “We’ve come a long way since then. I feel like actually gay rights have come a lot further in that time that race issues and women’s issues.”

– Somebody asks if there will be robots. Fuller says, “Yes.”

– Star Trek: Discovery to be set in the “Prime universe” (so set in the original shows’ timeline, not the J.J. Abrams reboot timeline) about 10 years before Captain Kirk’s five-year mission. “We can redefine the visual style,” he said. “We get to play with all of the iconography of those ships and that universe. Since we are doing this series in 2016 and all of the other series have been produced [at a time that] isn’t as sophisticated as we are now with what we can do production-wise, we’re going to be reestablishing an entire look for the series — not only for the series, but for what we wanted to accomplish with Star Trek beyond this series.”

– On including familiar characters from the original series: “There’s so much about the history that once we get through this first season and establish our own Star Trek universe with the crew that going to be reimagining a lot of Star Trek elements, we’ll be looking in the second season to open up to more familiar characters and how they can feed into the [show]. First and foremost, I think we really want to convince you and establish the greatness of the [new] characters that are going to be introduced.”

– But he’s tempted to include the character of Amanda Grayson (Spock’s human mom). “That character could factor in, but there’s much to be told about that.”

– On Star Trek vs. Star Wars: “Star Trek is us and where we’re going,” he said. “That sense of hope is something that can’t be undervalued, particularly where we are today.”.

– On how much Star Trek will push the content envelope since it won’t be constrained by broadcast standards. “Well there’s a reason we call it S.T.D.,” he said, mocking the show’s initials. “We’re going to have a broader spectrum to explore those issues but it’s still Star Trek. It will probably be slightly more graphic content. We discuss language every day. Is it appropriate for somebody to see a bridge blow up and say ‘Oh sh–t.’ I imagine we’re going to shoot scenes a couple of ways and see what feels more authentic in the editing room.”

– How close will the Discovery look like the Enterprise: “Saucer section, the cells and the design that we leaked early on has changed considerably. But it’s still very much inspired by those [Ralph McQuarrie] illustrations.”

– Marc DeBevoise, president and COO of CBS Interactive points out that he expects Star Trek: Discovery to get about 15 million viewers for its series premiere on CBS. He noted that Star Trek TV shows tend to average 2-to-5 million viewers for their first two years as reruns on Netflix. “We think this is a pretty good bet for us to make to grow our subscriber base next year,” he said.

– One reporter noted All Access shows will have commercials for new programming, so “Why do I have to pay you $6?” he asked. In other words: Why pay a premium for content that has advertisements? “The value is the depth and breath of the service that you can’t get anywhere else,” DeBevoise says. Another critic accused them of asking people to effectively “pay for CBS twice.” DeBevoise countered: “This original content is not on CBS, this is extra value.”

Earlier today, CBS was hammered by critics during its executive session for having six new fall shows starring white male actors. But Fuller’s idea to seek out a diverse cast isn’t a reaction to the recent surge of CBS diversity criticism. The former Hannibal showrunner first enthused about the idea of a black female captain in a hypothetical Star Trek series back in 2013. ”I want Angela Bassett to be the captain, that’s who I would love to have,” he said. “Captain Angela Bassett and First Officer Rosario Dawson. I would love to do that version of the show and that’s in the future to be told.”

Rosario Dawson as FO would be fine casting and working her way into the Captain's chair ala Sikso would be fantastic to watch.... Angela Bassett would make a terrible Captain.

DaneMcCloud 08-10-2016 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 12361627)
Rosario Dawson as FO would be fine casting and working her way into the Captain's chair ala Sikso would be fantastic to watch.... Angela Bassett would make a terrible Captain.

I was surprised to see it set just 10 years before TOS and from the perspective of someone other than the captain.

BigRedChief 08-10-2016 07:40 PM

Never explored the Kobayashi Maru test? WTF? Wrath of Khan.....Hello....ST first one with Pine....Hello.....

pr_capone 08-10-2016 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12361635)
I was surprised to see it set just 10 years before TOS and from the perspective of someone other than the captain.

Did you think they would go into the Kelvin timeline future or did they not go as far back as you expected they might?

pr_capone 08-10-2016 07:48 PM

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– Gay characters? “Absolutely we’re having a gay character,” Fuller said. He noted that as a gay man working on Voyager he had a file full of hate mail when there was a rumor that a character on his show was going to be gay. So he was determined if he ever did his own Star Trek show that he would have a gay character. “We’ve come a long way since then. I feel like actually gay rights have come a lot further in that time that race issues and women’s issues.”
Sounds like he is going to unnecessarily gay it up just to rub people's noses in it because some intolerant assholes sent him hate mail.

DaneMcCloud 08-10-2016 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 12361663)
Did you think they would go into the Kelvin timeline future or did they not go as far back as you expected they might?

I knew they were staying in the Prime timeline but I figured it would be more in the middle of Enterprise and TOS as opposed to 10 years prior to the TOS.

pr_capone 08-10-2016 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12361673)
I knew they were staying in the Prime timeline but I figured it would be more in the middle of Enterprise and TOS as opposed to 10 years prior to the TOS.

Gotcha.

I wonder if we will see Bakula cameo in the show at some point as Archer... If the events are taking place around 2223 he would still be around enjoying retirement with, perhaps, the 24th iteration of Porthos.

RealSNR 08-10-2016 08:04 PM

I was kind of liking the idea of a Fargo-style TV show with new characters and settings each season. Hopefully they make this a good one.

I'd still prefer to see a post-DS9 series... a year, 10 years, 100 years after... anything like that.

DaneMcCloud 08-10-2016 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12361703)
I was kind of liking the idea of a Fargo-style TV show with new characters and settings each season. Hopefully they make this a good one.

I'd still prefer to see a post-DS9 series... a year, 10 years, 100 years after... anything like that.

Well the cool thing is that if this series actually works, they can jump around and do serialized seasons at any point in the timeline.

DaneMcCloud 08-10-2016 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 12361696)
Gotcha.

I wonder if we will see Bakula cameo in the show at some point as Archer... If the events are taking place around 2223 he would still be around enjoying retirement with, perhaps, the 24th iteration of Porthos.

Yeah, that would be cool. I really like him as an actor (he was a cool neighbor for a while, too) and thought he got the shaft on Enterprise because it wasn't very well done, IMO.

DaneMcCloud 08-10-2016 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 12361668)
Sounds like he is going to unnecessarily gay it up just to rub people's noses in it because some intolerant assholes sent him hate mail.

I couldn't care less that there will be at least one gay character in the series, I just hope it's not "shoe horned in", for lack of a better term, and feels natural to the story.

I'm all about diversity, as long as it works and they're not setting out to tell the story of a non-Caucasian or homosexual, as opposed to a great story, in the Star Trek universe.

BigRedChief 08-10-2016 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12361731)
I couldn't care less that there will be at least one gay character in the series, I just hope it's not "shoe horned in", for lack of a better term, and feels natural to the story.

I'm all about diversity, as long as it works and they're not setting out to tell the story of a non-Caucasian or homosexual, as opposed to a great story, in the Star Trek universe.

Star Trek has always been about diversity. I don't think they can screw it up. It should not have to be forced in the story.

Deberg_1990 08-10-2016 08:46 PM

Dane, thoughts on this?


In other words: Why pay a premium for content that has advertisements? “The value is the depth and breath of the service that you can’t get anywhere else,” DeBevoise says. Another critic accused them of asking people to effectively “pay for CBS twice.” DeBevoise countered: “This original content is not on CBS, this is extra value.”

BigRedChief 08-10-2016 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 12361790)
Dane, thoughts on this?


In other words: Why pay a premium for content that has advertisements? “The value is the depth and breath of the service that you can’t get anywhere else,” DeBevoise says. Another critic accused them of asking people to effectively “pay for CBS twice.” DeBevoise countered: “This original content is not on CBS, this is extra value.”

They want $10 a month and it has advertisements?

unlurking 08-10-2016 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 12361696)
Gotcha.

I wonder if we will see Bakula cameo in the show at some point as Archer... If the events are taking place around 2223 he would still be around enjoying retirement with, perhaps, the 24th iteration of Porthos.

Should be in the 2250's, not 2220's (based on 10 years prior to Kirk/Enterprise in TOS).

http://www.trekcore.com/timeline/timeline10.html


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