And he has more endurance than anyone on the field. A lot of those plays where Hill runs by people happen in the 4th Q.

I know it won't happen, because Tyreek has nothing to gain, but I feel like he could beat 4.21 if he tried.

Or, he could have a couple of years ago. I don't really watcu Miami, so maybe he has lost a step.

I have watched the Worthy 40 a bunch, and I almost feel I have seen Tyreek run faster in pads.

Odds are 99.9999% against Worthy to be a Tyreek level player. I would just like to see him display better awareness on the field than guys like MVS, Hardman, Toney, and Skyy Moore.

Odds are 99.9999% against any WR coming out to be a Tyreek level player.

There is no way you can look at a player on TV and come to the conclusion that they are running faster than a player that isn't even on the field. That's dumb as hell.

So, when you remember how fast Bo Jackson was, or Primetime, or Green, etc. you can't see them running in your mind?

Are you one of those people with no inner monolog?

Yeah, I can compare a memory to a video. Also, I can tell how fast I am driving without looking at the speedometer. I can match the passing of time, with distance traveled, and do a calculation of who was faster.

Also, if you read my comment carefully, I said that I feel like I have seen Tyreek run faster in pads. I didn't say I know for a fact, or imply that Tyreek actually was faster in pads.

If you watched the combine, and watched the 40 yard dash, do all of the players look like they are going the same speed to you? I don't really understand how you can't compare players speed during the 40 because they aren't running at the same time (or being simulcast)

After this pick, I'm reminded about how much we used to run the motion + race to the pylon play at the goal line, and how much fun it was to watch Tyreek LOL NAH dudes. That was such an easy play, sure it didn't work, but it was fairly low risk. And since, it seems like it's been a grind to get in the end zone.

Now, Mahomes has that back, but also has all the crazy shovel play shit that everyone tried to copy, the corndog plays which nobody can seem to defend against, and Rices screen shit which happens to work miraculously. And if you spread out too much, Pop is coming for your lunch money.

Man. I've missed that play.

The thing is that same stupid easy play might be good for huge yardage if you send Brown deep and the safety goes too, Worthy can come out of the backfield on a wheel route and eviscerate linebackers covering too much space like Jamaal Charles used to do, and by the time Reid got ahold of Jamaal he wasn't a shadow of his former self, speed-wise, and I don't think Charles had the top end that Worthy does. Though, that might be offset because secondaries were bigger and slower then when Charles came in.

tl;dr: LET'S GO!

well that was a waste of my time





Desean Jackson as the comp like...annoys me a little bit. Not only is Worthy significantly faster in every phase, he's also THREE inches taller. That means something.

You nailed it, in that Tyreek doesn't lose much in pads. Lots of guys run fast in shorts, then lose a little something once they put the pads on.

The stupidity of this is a bit overwhelming but let’s consider a few things.

Worthy temporarily built his body, with the help of world class trainers, to specifically run the 40. He ran in a straight line, in a dome, with no obstacles or pads.

In games, Tyreek has pads, a helmet, and probably never ran in a straight line with no obstacles for 40 yards. Maybe he looked quicker in short bursts than Worthy did during his 40, but that’s impossible to measure.

Your gut feeling on this one is not worth the server space - please delete and take the rest of the day off.

3 inches taller is great, but coming in lighter than Jackson is not ideal. Worthy says he’ll play at 175ish and hopefully won’t lose much speed.

I always try to be respectful, so I will say that's like, your opinion, man.

Remember the play where Mahomes threw a jump pass to Hardman in Tennessee, and he literally split defenders, one of which was college track athlete Adore Jackson, and ran away from them like they were standing still?

At no time during his 40 did it appear that Worthy was running faster than Hardman's top speed on that play. Was he moving faster? Probably, but I have watched nearly every college snap Worthy has taken, and I never saw him do anything like that. I saw him run away from guys, but not like Hardman did on that play.

I am on record as wanting Worthy in the first (and several other big time receivers) and I think he is going to be great, and I think he is really fast, but he dropped weight and trained specifically to run a fast 40. It is the fastest 40 ever recorded at the combine, yet Worthy is probably not even in the top 5 for fastest players I have seen on a football field, and again, I have seen almost every snap Worthy took in college.

Bo Jackson, Prime, Darrell Green, Tyreek, Vick, and Randy Moss all looked faster, to me, on the football field. The "fast" guy whose speed kinda matches Worthy is Chris Johnson. He was very fast, but never looked like his 40 time should look.

Then there are guys that I don't really remember, but I know were fast, like Bob Hayes, Willie Gault, etc.

I don't care about his weight nearly as much as others do but three inches taller just gives me more hope to build on that frame.

I also don't like the comp of DeVonta Smith. They are similar heights and weights but Worthy ran SIGNIFICANTLY faster.

4.5 to 4.2 is night and ****ing day

lol at you going through and down voting all my posts because I had the audacity to call out your stupid post. Lol you're gonna do GREAT here





this you? lmao

JFC people...Tyreek Hill has run the 40. Look at his pro day numbers. 4.29. To say he can "easily" beat a 4.21 (the fastest time ever clocked) is utterly ridiculous.

Point A to B in a 40 yard dash, Worthy is faster. Period. There is proof of it. We will see how it translates to game speed with pads on.

Tyreek may very well look faster. He is a jerky sprinter. Worthy is more of a smooth strider.