Meh. The Ravens offense is as good as advertised. That's a tough, tough team to stop.

Yep.

And agree on Breeland. Knows how to use the boundary to his advantage. Great open field tackler.

We don't NEED Ramsey, so if the Jags want to play ball, let's start by realizing that fact.

heard that

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If someone was offering a first, a second and a player for a dude you weren't planning on paying, why would you hold on to him?

I've really been impressed by Breeland, dude is solid and then some.

Breeland is a solid starting NFL corner. He's a legit #2 guy. I'd have no issue keeping him around.

Because the Jags plan on paying him. They want him, he doesn't want them. That's the issue.

They said in the offseason they weren't going to pay him.

The owner has said he'd like to, but he's the owner. He doesn't have to say "he'd like to pay him". If he really wanted to, he would.

Darby is going to be out a little while for the Eagles with a hamstring. Let's see how desperate they get.

Yea, Breeland is above solid thru 3 games. Paint me impressed.

If Khan truly loved Ramsey, he would set him free.

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Hey, on the face of it, I completely agree with you. I was just relaying what I saw on ESPN the other day.

I'm guessing he'll get 16.5 per year.

The Cowboys may have to cut bait with Byron Jones due Dak's huge contract... I wouldn't be opposed to snatching him off their roster.

I am diagnosing Jalen with an acute case of Wannabeachiefitis!!!!

Meant to give you a thumbs up.. fat fingers.. Rep on the way.

Damn. Yeah I bet they offer 2 firsts. Maybe more.

Thank u!!

This is why you don't trade for guys like Ramsey.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...-cant-practice

You can click the link if you want to see 56 ads that will give the NFL 11 cents in ad revenue, but essentially Ramsey is claiming to be sick and not showing up at practice, and nobody believes him.

I hate guys like that.

A guy who doesn’t want to be part of the organization doesn’t want to practice?

I disagree. I know its a bad look but once a guy knows what the situation hes in is not good. What else can he do. I was so angry with Gonzalez when he asked for a trade but once you sit back and digest what has happened and how he was the BEST at his position but still couldnt win. I get it.

I for one am not going to hold that against him. If we get him, clean slate. If we dont, **** him!

To appease some of you "we don't have the money to pay him - we can't give up those high of picks" Nancy boys....any chance we make a run at Josh Norman if all other avenues (Howard, PP, Jalen) fail?

You are actually stupid. You read the propaganda and took the bait. You'd think after the media dragged Hill through the mud you would be less knee jerk. You need to calm down dude.

So are you saying that Ramsey was at practice? Or that he wasn't, but had a legit reason? (Not that Rain Man needs me to defend him, but he's obviously far from stupid. His contributions at CP make that quite clear.)

Josh “burnt toast” Norman. No thanks. Ward and Claiborne are better

No he was actually...GASP...sick. Throwing up and everything. Again. He's stupid. Two things can be true. He's stupid and he's contributed to CP. Get over it.

The way I read the situation is not about Ramsey and the Jaguars. It's about Ramsey and adversity. He handles adversity poorly, and minor adversity at that. When the chips are down and you need guys to saddle up and face down the bad guys, Ramsey is clearly not the type of guy who can do that. He's the guy who'll be running away covering his head and shrilly screaming excuses.

Setsuna is going all Myles Jack on me. Someone help him off the field before he falls down.

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Two other things can be true: You're wrong and you're as salty as Troy Aikman. So there's that. Sleep well good sir.

You hate Ramsey. We get it.

Ok. You sleep well too.

At this point I say **** Ramsey, we should bolster our O-line. Mahomes was getting killed in the Jags and Ravens games. He never took a beating like that last season. If shit like that keeps happening he's gonna get seriously hurt. It feels like teams are actively trying to take him out of games now because they know they can't do jack shit to stop him and the refs aren't doing anything about it. He needs protection.

The line has done a great job in pass blocking. The only time he got "killed" against the Jags was when 3 of their line jumped off sides. The good hit against the Ravens was on Mahomes not recognizing the presnap blitzer.

You're a ****ing idiot. There were 7 late hits in the game against the Ravens and the refs did nothing about it. Are you blind to what's happening??

With PMII as QB I'd invest in OL till the Chiefs have a top 5 OL to make sure he's upright and healthy.

Thats not on the o-line though. That should have been called. Still wouldn't say they've done amazing though.

Did you watch last years ravens game? That game was brutal on mahomes.. just as bad as this game was if not worse. I'd say jags this year was the worst though.

**** come on, lets get this dude.

KC kept 11 O-Linemen. That's a lot. Not sure we need anyomre.

They don't need anything on offense. Just stay healthy/get healthy there and keep rolling.

I would love to have Ramsey, but an upgrade over Xavier Williams wouldn't be a terrible idea.

Chadiha is on 810 talking about it.

Chiefs just don't want to give up what the Jags are asking and the Chiefs are more interested in Patrick Peterson

Patrick Peterson isn’t happening. The Cards are morons.

He said the Cards don't want to trade him, the Chiefs believe that's them trying to drive the price up.

But if the dumb ass cardinals want to keep him hostage, what the **** can we do? Probably still butt hurt over Reid choosing us over their sorry ass organization.

Need the Cardinals to keep getting their ass kicked and Peterson to ask for a trade.

If they haven't won by the deadline, they may change their mind.

I would rather have Ramsey, but you just can't move that much capitol and pay him.

The Cards are morons, I get that you don't want to lose one of your top players but by the time they are competitive PP will be past his prime. I get wanting to get the most value out of the player but they're not exactly handling this in the smartest way

Ok, this is BS. Rainman is far from stupid. He's actually one of the more intelligent people on this forum, IMO. Just because he is putting 2 and 2 together does not make him stupid. What an ignorant argument. How do you know for certain that Ramsey was throwing up? Did you see him? Did you examine him? Did an independent medical professional examine him and declare that he was truly sick? I mean, I've been around the block enough to know that the timing of this does look very fishy.

The backfield hasn't been bad. It's the god damn run D that's terrible. We are allowing 6.2 ypc and the next closes is 5.4. The good thing is we've only allowed 4 rushing TDs and 4 passing TDs. We are 18th in PA and 9th in Yards Allowed. Honestly with how good our O has been our D has been damn good. Sure we're allowing teams to gash us in the run, but so far we've held them to FGs or we make them punt. This D looks better than it did last year. I'm against getting Ramsey now. Wouldn't be worth it.

I don't really understand why the run D is still THAT bad.

Watch you language, cock!

It's not. It was fine the first two weeks.

We just ran into an elite ground game and we're still getting our bearings on D.

It was worse thru the first two weeks yardage wise than it was last year.

Oh God. Why is Veach getting tunnel vision on ****ing Patrick Peterson, of all players?

Because of a couple of long BS runs when we were up 3 scores.

Who cares.

We are the 27th ranked run D and 19th ranked pass D.

24th ranked D in yards given up
14th ranked D in points given up

Honestly it has everything to do with out DT's/Line Backers. Chris Jones is amazing but he is not a space eater.

And our Linebackers are not attacking the right gaps. I have hope, but we will see. Honestly Hitchen's has to go, I was originally high on him. But he is a complete liability.

We need a true MLB for this defense.

The Chargers and Steelers were throwing the ball all over the place though whilst Jags and Raiders were more run focused...so I'm not sure we can compare the two.

I think Jones and our ILBs are not very good vs the run. Pretty much it.

Jone is not good vs. the run. Which is why I'm ok with letting him go. (I know its crazy)

But he is a much better 3-4 DE than a 4-3 DT.

I get PP from the standpoint that he’s a pure leader who helps the locker room without question. Ramsey may or may not depending on the day.

If the price is far different, I like PP over Ramsey.

PP has a long history with Honey Badger too.... LSU and Arizona. But honestly our biggest concern right now is MLB.

Why would he be better as a 34 space eater at DE?

He's fine in an attacking 43, he just is undisciplined and tries to go off script to make plays instead of doing it thru the scheme.

If this talk about the Chiefs truly being solely focused on PP is true, then you have to completely question their decision making.

The Cardinals have been adamant, as recent as last week, that they have no interest in trading Peterson. If the Chiefs don't improve the position because they're holding out hope that AZ's stance will change, then that's ignorant af.

It's never dating because you're hoping a pretty girl you saw on the Subway once's marriage falls apart someday.

Because in a 3-4 he has two MLB's in base packages (early down) to cover for his lack of lane eating. He is always penetrating, which would be ok inside of a 3-4.

Also, worth noting on Chadiha –

Does he have friends in the org? Yes.

But this is also the guy who reported with conviction that the Chiefs were "not intersted in Ramsey." and that if that changed, he'd "be the first to know."

Well, that changed, and he never reported shit. Which tells me no one told him.

He can get ****ed, he doesn't know what they're doing over there.

Ummm because he doesn’t want to get raped like you expected him to that means he has tunnel vision?



Reports: Ramsey wants out of Jacksonville. Chiefs are interested.

Superturtle: haha Veach is going to get raped again if he trades for Ramsey

Reports: Asking price for Ramsey is too high for the Chiefs, but they’re interested. Patrick Peterson is a more reasonable option.

Superturtle: Oh God. Why is Veach getting tunnel vision on ****ing Patrick Peterson, of all players?

What reports have said anything about Patrick Peterson, other than he isn't available for trade?

Jones wants the splash plays and doesn’t play technically sound.Someone from PFF posted that he leads the league in missed tackles. I’m a big fan, but if you want to get paid the kind of $ he wants, you have to wrap up and finish plays.

There’s a reason teams run right up the middle on us.

I'm not giving up a 1st for a post PED Patrick Peterson...sorry...

The Chadiha one that was JUST posted a couple pages back along with what Terez has said.

So the defense has improved...and they are only 3 games into a scheme change.

They only needed to be one stop a game better....

I'd hedge on Claiborne first ...the trade deadline isn't until late October.

He made an outstanding pass break up in the endzone....

Now if Veach has inside knowledge of how much the cap is expected to jump with the new CBA...sign away if they can afford it. Ramsey is going to be better than any CB available in the late 1st.

You can also subtract the salary of said pick(s).....

Because he’s not only an elite corner, he takes young players under his wing and teaches them how to be a pro.

Same with Clark and why he overpaid him and wouldn’t take no for an answer when trading for him over other options.

That's the complete opposite of conventional thinking so kudos?

I'd imagine they've got their feelers out on everything in the secondary.

Peterson makes sense because he's under contract, is older so won't need a new one ideally and won't cost as much.

They can say that all they want, but the fact remains that he IS NOT AVAILABLE.

This is, literally, from last week:

They can say he makes more sense, sure. But does coveting an unattainable player REALLY make sense?

I told you what Chadiha said.

The Chiefs think the Cards are saying that trying to drive up the price and that they'll eventually make him available.

And maybe they will.

But if they don't, and the deadline passes with the Chiefs having passed up other opportunities to improve at the position because they were holding onto a false hope, then...yeah.

Their GM is a dipshit so trying to think what he's going to do is risky as ****.