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SAUTO 09-07-2019 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14429226)
He’s not the best back in football, but he’s going to be good. Maybe really good.

I wanted him so bad.

He's going to be really good

staylor26 09-07-2019 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14429233)
I wanted him so bad.

He's going to be really good

Glad I picked him up in a league. Brown being gone gives them no choice but to feed Jacobs early and often.

Halfcan 09-07-2019 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Nickhead (Post 14426611)
seriously, this man needs help :thumb:

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Shut up Fatlock! :cuss:

Hammock Parties 09-07-2019 01:53 PM

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FlaChief58 09-07-2019 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14429352)

ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL

SAUTO 09-07-2019 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14429239)
Glad I picked him up in a league. Brown being gone gives them no choice but to feed Jacobs early and often.

I did too ROFL

Him and Kamara are my first two rbs

staylor26 09-07-2019 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14430267)
I did too ROFL

Him and Kamara are my first two rbs

Nice.

eDave 09-07-2019 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14430391)
Nice.

Nice!

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-08-2019 06:51 PM

And yet, there were people...

TwistedChief 09-08-2019 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 14434884)
And yet, there were people...

Where you been, bro? Sad to say I've missed you as the world has collapsed around us.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-08-2019 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 14434885)
Where you been, bro? Sad to say I've missed you as the world has collapsed around us.

It's a twofold campaign. 1, I just don't have much time for this right now and 2, I AM the crack cocaine that makes this pipe glow red hot whether you want to believe it or not.

:)

Rasputin 09-09-2019 06:22 AM

119 games between Chiefs Raiders

Chiefs 65 victory

Raiders 53 victory

Two tie games


It would take Raiders sweeping us the next 6 years to catch us but they won't we have Mahomes and they don't.

New World Order 09-15-2019 05:12 PM

Yep. They still suck

Hog's Gone Fishin 09-22-2019 08:09 PM

Gruden full of excuses. My favorite part is where he says "We Have to get better field position. We cant just expect to go 80 yards to score a Touchdown"LMAO


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Hammock Parties 09-22-2019 08:27 PM

mahomes broke them

Hog's Gone Fishin 09-22-2019 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14471493)
mahomes broke them

You know Gruden looks at Mahomes and just SAYS to himself,"WHY O WHY COULDN'T HE BE MINE"

Munson 09-22-2019 10:10 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Raiders?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Raiders</a> last 17 drives:<br>Punt<br>Punt<br>Punt<br>Punt<br>End of half<br>INT<br>INT<br>Punt<br>Punt<br>Punt<br>Punt<br>INT<br>TD<br>Punt<br>Punt<br>Downs<br>Missed FG</p>&mdash; Josh Dubow (@JoshDubowAP) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoshDubowAP/status/1175854566182539265?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 22, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Sweet Daddy Hate 09-22-2019 10:27 PM

Wow.

Good lord we are so lucky to have Mahomes and Reid. I now include Reid because Pat is THE Quarterback that he has been waiting for his whole career, and he hasn't wasted any time making the most of the situation.

I don't even really hate the Raiders and I've always liked Gruden outside of his coaching role but damn, when you drop that kind of dime on a HC, you should expect better results than that.

Megatron96 09-23-2019 01:30 AM

Only saw a couple of highlight clips but Carr looked like he's regressing. The Vikes have a very good defense, so maybe I missed something, but one INT looked a lot like Carr just panicked and threw the ball right to the defender. Which was a typical Derek Carr thing before Gruden took over.

Carr seems like a decent person outside of football, but if he can't get his act together soon, like in the next game or two, the Raiders might be shopping for a new QB next season.

SuperBowl4 09-23-2019 01:58 AM

The RAIDERS are so much better without Antonio Brown.

eDave 09-23-2019 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 14471842)
Wow.

Good lord we are so lucky to have Mahomes and Reid. I now include Reid because Pat is THE Quarterback that he has been waiting for his whole career, and he hasn't wasted any time making the most of the situation.

I don't even really hate the Raiders and I've always liked Gruden outside of his coaching role but damn, when you drop that kind of dime on a HC, you should expect better results than that.

And Veach. And Clark.

Some crazy dudes here still want to complain about them. Sad sacks.

And Alex Smith if we really want to get existential.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-23-2019 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 14471967)
And Veach. And Clark.

Some crazy dudes here still want to complain about them. Sad sacks.

And Alex Smith if we really want to get existential.

Yeah **** getting existential. I'm just gonna' pretend I didn't even read that.

What? Huh?

I didn't see shit.

lawrenceRaider 09-24-2019 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 14471956)
Only saw a couple of highlight clips but Carr looked like he's regressing. The Vikes have a very good defense, so maybe I missed something, but one INT looked a lot like Carr just panicked and threw the ball right to the defender. Which was a typical Derek Carr thing before Gruden took over.

Carr seems like a decent person outside of football, but if he can't get his act together soon, like in the next game or two, the Raiders might be shopping for a new QB next season.

I'm ready for a new Raider QB. Jake Fromm is who I'm hoping for now.

Ubeja Vontell 09-24-2019 12:01 PM

Looking at the remaining schedule I can see, maybe....beat the Bengals at home, and that's it, and will give them another win where everything just went their way so...3-13/4-12 possible.

The Las Vegas Raiders.....sounds weird.

Would ya believe they came real close to being called the Oakland Senors?

Their first 1000 yard rusher Clem Daneils (converted CB) was a former Chief (Texans)

Sorry 09-24-2019 12:09 PM

Carr isn't regressing, Vikings have a too 5 pass defense. Look at what they did to Rogers.. similar stat lines

lawrenceRaider 09-24-2019 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorry (Post 14475220)
Carr isn't regressing, Vikings have a too 5 pass defense. Look at what they did to Rogers.. similar stat lines

:LOL:

Sounds like guy who read box score and knows WTF he's talking about.

Watch the games and then come back.

O.city 09-24-2019 12:12 PM

There a chance Gruden just walks away after a 3 win season?

In58men 09-24-2019 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14475230)
There a chance Gruden just walks away after a 3 win season?

Never forget

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/j...t-get-it-done/

Megatron96 09-24-2019 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorry (Post 14475220)
Carr isn't regressing, Vikings have a too 5 pass defense. Look at what they did to Rogers.. similar stat lines

It's possible. For the Raiders' sake I hope that's true. They need to turn things around fast. But if Carr keeps over-throwing receivers for whatever reason, they're going to have to find a replacement before next season. On that team, they need a QB that's not going to shoot them in the foot all the time.

Hog's Gone Fishin 09-24-2019 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 14471956)
Only saw a couple of highlight clips but Carr looked like he's regressing. The Vikes have a very good defense, so maybe I missed something, but one INT looked a lot like Carr just panicked and threw the ball right to the defender. Which was a typical Derek Carr thing before Gruden took over.

Carr seems like a decent person outside of football, but if he can't get his act together soon, like in the next game or two, the Raiders might be shopping for a new QB next season.

By the end of this year the AFCW will be very similar to the AFCE. The AFCE has been dominated by NE for 18 years now. The other teams in the division are always trying to catch them. They reach for draft picks and reach for FA signings trying to catch NE. Coaches don't want to go to that division because of NE's dominance. It's a hopeless cause for any team other than NE.

Now we are NE of the AFCW. Denver is a prime example. Horseface has been reaching for a QB since 5 head retired. Prime players are not going to want to join the Donkeys,Raiders,Chargers because they have no chance of winning. Gruden will NEVER be satisfied with his QB because he envies Mahomes so much. It's going to be a revolving door and a continual spiral of defeat for the rest of the west.

Sorry 09-24-2019 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 14475226)
:LOL:

Sounds like guy who read box score and knows WTF he's talking about.

Watch the games and then come back.

I saw the entire game dipshit, Carr had two to three horrendous throws compounded with terrible play calling and a non-existent def playmakers. Rogers didn't fair any better against the same team. That team is extremely dangerous defensively

Sorry 09-24-2019 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 14475408)
It's possible. For the Raiders' sake I hope that's true. They need to turn things around fast. But if Carr keeps over-throwing receivers for whatever reason, they're going to have to find a replacement before next season. On that team, they need a QB that's not going to shoot them in the foot all the time.


Gruden and carr is a nightmare in hell and I personally think Carr would do well to find a way to get to new england. Realistically Brady has maybe two more years Max in him. Carr actually takes care of the ball, at least from stats from last year. He fits in a new england type offense.

Carr for whatever reason has accuracy issues on medium passes... largely due to his footwork which dates back to college. He doesn't have any real playmakers on his squad so no one will be that open which will only highlight his issue. He isn't going to be a Vegas raider...bank it

Ubeja Vontell 09-24-2019 11:59 PM

The1990 Raider 4x1 team

Wilie Gault 10.1
Bo Jackson 10.3
Sam Graddy 10.0
Ron Brown 10.0

that is a 40.4, no other team in NFL history beats that,

The offical world rankings



1983
1
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Carl Lewis (US)
2
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Calvin Smith (US)
3
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Mel Lattany (US)
4
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Emmit King (US)
5
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Ron Brown (US)********************
6
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Allan Wells (Great Britain)
7
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Leandro Peñalver (Cuba)
8
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Juan Nuñez (Dominican Republic)
9
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Willie Gault (US)**************************
10 ...............................
Sam Graddy (US)*******************************
1984
1
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Carl Lewis (US)
2
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Sam Graddy (US)*****************************
3
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Kirk Baptiste (US)
4
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Ben Johnson (Canada)
5
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Ron Brown (US)*****************************
6
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Calvin Smith (US)
7
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Harvey Glance (US)
8
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Osvaldo Lara (Cuba)
9
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Stefano Tilli (Italy)
10 ...................
Leandro Peñalver (Cuba

Ubeja Vontell 09-25-2019 12:13 AM

I love our Chiefs, but....

All Time Raider Offense

QB...The Snake
RB....Marcus Allen
RB....Bo Jackson
WR....Tim Brown
WR....Fred Biletnikoff
TE....Dave Casper

Otto/Shell/Upshaw

All but Bo in the HOF.

BryanBusby 09-25-2019 02:36 AM

Goddamn you really, really suck as a poster.

New World Order 09-25-2019 03:07 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Take out garbage time (the entire fourth quarter), Derek Carr had an average depth of target of 5.85 yards. Woof. <br><br>Take out the trick play, it was 3.4 air yards per throw. That’s egregious. <br><br>Everyone needs to indicted for that nonsense.</p>&mdash; Dieter Kurtenbach (@dieter) <a href="https://twitter.com/dieter/status/1176241746369372160?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 23, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Sweet Daddy Hate 09-25-2019 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14476578)
Goddamn you really, really suck as a poster.

Ya' think?

Mahomes_Is_God 10-06-2019 03:13 AM

Can't wait to watch Derek Carr get completely obliterated by Khalil Mack. It's going to be so much fun!

stumppy 10-10-2019 05:27 AM

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ension-upheld/

Vontaze Burfict’s suspension upheld

Appeals officer Derrick Brooks upheld Raiders linebacker Vontaze Burfict‘s suspension for the rest of the season, the NFL announced Wednesday.

Burfict cannot return to the field until the 2020 season.

Burfict signed a one-year deal, so he is scheduled to become a free agent in March.

Burfict missed the Raiders’ game against the Bears on Sunday after an illegal hit in a Week Four game against the Colts.

Officials ejected Burfict for lowering his head to initiate contact with Colts tight end Jack Doyle while Doyle was on a knee after catching a pass.

The Raiders pleaded their case in support of Burfict, with Jon Gruden saying the linebacker had served his punishment.

Brooks heard Burfict’s appeal Tuesday and disagreed.

It marks the second time Brooks has upheld a Burfict suspension. The Hall of Famer, appointed jointly by the NFL and NFLPA, also didn’t overturn a three-game ban on Burfict for a hit on then-Steelers receiver Antonio Brown in a playoff game in the 2015 postseason.

Appeals officer James Thrash reduced Burfict’s five-game suspension in 2016 to three games.

The NFL said Burfict’s current 12-game ban was “for repeated violations of unnecessary roughness rules.”

“There were no mitigating circumstances on this play,” Jon Runyan, the NFL’s vice president of football operations, said in his suspension letter to Burfict. “Your contact was unnecessary, flagrant and should have been avoided. For your actions, you were penalized and disqualified from the game, following each of your previous rule violations. You were warned by me and each of the jointly appointed appeal officers that future violations would result in escalated accountability measures. However, you have continued to flagrantly abuse rules designated to protect yourself and your opponents from unnecessary risk.”


I wonder if the next time it'll be 2 years. We all know there will be a next time.

lawrenceRaider 10-10-2019 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Mahomes_Is_God (Post 14501131)
Can't wait to watch Derek Carr get completely obliterated by Khalil Mack. It's going to be so much fun!

It really was fun! :LOL:

Hammock Parties 10-18-2019 02:36 PM

well, bye

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trent Brown doubtful; Tyrell Williams out <a href="https://t.co/BLMFoOFXmW">https://t.co/BLMFoOFXmW</a></p>&mdash; ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1185293339962368000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 18, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hammock Parties 10-20-2019 03:20 PM

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Pablo 10-20-2019 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14541393)

LOLOLOLOL

He's such garbage.

ChiefsCountry 10-20-2019 05:09 PM

NFL is rigging it for the Raiders to win.

bobhill 10-21-2019 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 14541467)
LOLOLOLOL

He's such garbage.

The Refs probably gave him a touchdown on both plays to right?

lawrenceRaider 10-21-2019 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 14541650)
NFL is rigging it for the Raiders to win.

What? Drunk?

thabear04 10-21-2019 02:03 PM

Raiders ship off Conley for a 3rd round 2020 pick to the Texans.

ChiefsCountry 10-21-2019 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 14542426)
What? Drunk?

BlackOps said the NFL is rigging it for the Raiders to win this year.

lawrenceRaider 11-11-2019 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 14543202)
BlackOps said the NFL is rigging it for the Raiders to win this year.

BlackOps is back at it again. If only he actually watched games he would know that simply isn't the case.

jdubya 11-13-2019 06:26 PM

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...id=mailsignout

LOL

Rasputin 11-18-2019 10:51 PM

Keep sniffing our asshole Assholes

Rasputin 11-18-2019 11:13 PM

We may have a bye but is it official 'Raiders week'?

gold_and_red 11-18-2019 11:15 PM

Raiders have three road division games, Chiefs have three home division games. No way Reid can choke this one away right?

Hammock Parties 11-18-2019 11:17 PM

Andy bout to get his bye BITCHES

jdubya 11-18-2019 11:26 PM

Isn't Reid 16-3 after a bye week? Raiders will be toast

NJChiefsFan 11-18-2019 11:34 PM

Raiders are pumped up via the media cause of Chucky etc. Unfortunately whether they are overrated or not, their schedule is likely to keep them in it. I don't see them beating us though. Them getting all excited about the 10-0 lead in the first matchup was cute.

kcpasco 11-18-2019 11:36 PM

On paper we should stomp the Raiders.

lawrenceRaider 11-19-2019 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 14607642)
On paper we should stomp the Raiders.

Why would that be? Your OL is charmin soft, your WR's and RB's are a mash unit, and your D stinks.

Plus you have Andy Reed as your HC.

I still expect the Chiefs to win in KC, but not a stomping. Of course Carr always drops a big turd when playing in KC, so maybe it will be a stomping.

Hammock Parties 11-19-2019 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 14608040)
Plus you have Andy Reed as your HC.

That's all we need.

Andy owns you.

And so does Mahomes.

Clyde Frog 11-19-2019 01:57 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DphFn6QV4AIUvM2.jpg

lawrenceRaider 11-19-2019 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Clyde Frog (Post 14608867)

Guy was playing with broken bones in his back.

Clyde Frog 11-19-2019 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 14608917)
Guy was playing with broken bones in his back.

Still cried

BryanBusby 11-19-2019 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 14608040)
Why would that be? Your OL is charmin soft, your WR's and RB's are a mash unit, and your D stinks.

Plus you have Andy Reed as your HC.

I still expect the Chiefs to win in KC, but not a stomping. Of course Carr always drops a big turd when playing in KC, so maybe it will be a stomping.

Well they've already done it once in the toilet. Did it so bad that they only had to give a shit for one single quarter.

Hammock Parties 12-01-2019 06:11 PM

never forget

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EKvYxhrW...g&name=900x900

Tribal Warfare 12-01-2019 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Clyde Frog (Post 14608992)
Still cried


Like a little bitch

RickObie 12-01-2019 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14628298)

Both Carr’s are soft overrated little bitches.

Hammock Parties 12-03-2019 12:22 PM

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Sweet Daddy Hate 12-04-2019 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 14471842)

Good lord we are so lucky to have Mahomes and Reid. I now include Reid because Pat is THE Quarterback that he has been waiting for his whole career, and he hasn't wasted any time making the most of the situation.

With the exception of the comments regarding Patrick, I completely renounce this butt****ing moron of a post.

Rasputin 12-16-2019 07:49 AM

LOLOLOLOLOL Chopper gif @ Raiders losing their final home game at the ShitHole. Lol at Gruden complaining cuz Carr Wrecked the game by going out of bounds stopping the clock with 2:05 left on the field and Gruden says clock should have went to the two minute warning because he gave himself up in field of play. It's funny because Jags got an extra down to get the ball back and drive for a winning touchdown. Suck It Raiders.

Mile High Mania 12-16-2019 08:24 AM

I think it’s sad that the move to Vegas kills the Raiders mystique and makes them a more boring franchise. Sure, they haven’t been ‘The Raiders’ in a while, but the move to Vegas will suck.

Coochie liquor 12-16-2019 08:26 AM

Classic way for the the Faders to close out their time in Chokeland. Lmao

TwistedChief 12-16-2019 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 14659035)
I think it’s sad that the move to Vegas kills the Raiders mystique and makes them a more boring franchise. Sure, they haven’t been ‘The Raiders’ in a while, but the move to Vegas will suck.

Perhaps, but balance that with the sadness of their fanbase. And it’s then a pretty wonderful outcome.

DTHOF 12-16-2019 08:29 AM

So glad Oakland is over. Fans that take pride in being assholes and being "gangsta". Black Hole deserved exactly what they got yesterday and the tears were sweet.

Now the team is going to Las Vegas and there will never be a home field advantage as people from other teams will go there on vacation and always fill the stadium with opposing fans.

TwistedChief 12-16-2019 08:31 AM

With the usual disclaimer that you should all sign up for The Athletic because it’s cheap and puts out terrific content, https://theathletic.com/1462171/2019.../?redirected=1

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Thompson: A fitting end to the Oakland era as Raiders dish one last heartbreak

By Marcus Thompson II Dec 15, 2019 35
This is how the second Oakland era should end, a choke job worthy of the franchise’s commitment to excellence. One last gut punch to the loyal fans of the East Bay.

The season isn’t over. The Raiders, 6-8, still have two more road games. But Sunday’s performance, likely the last in Oakland, was a tip of the cap to the last 25 years, a flameout worthy of the legacy of ineptitude. The Raiders coughed up a 13-point lead by allowing 17 unanswered points in the second half, losing 20-16. To the lowly Jacksonville Jaguars.

“And the Oakland-Alameda Coliseum goes silent,” one of the Jaguars assistant coaches mocked from the booth next to the press box.

Most finale games are about remembering the good times. But for the Raiders, it’s really about the hard times, the heart-piercing defeats and shame-inducing failures. There have been many.

This field, on which they will likely never play again, is a map of agony Raiders fans have endured together, collective suffering that makes them so passionate, and makes the good times mean that much more.

The 4-yard line, on the left hashmark, in front of the Black Hole. That’s where — on Jan. 14, 2001 — Tony Siragusa landed his 6-foot-3, 342-pound frame on top of Rich Gannon, injuring his shoulder and knocking him out of the 2001 AFC Championship Game in Oakland. Bobby Hoying had to finish the game. The Raiders lost 16-3, missing out on a spot in the Super Bowl.

At the 40-yard line, near the left hash mark, just shy of the logo at midfield, that’s where Derek Carr was twisted down and broke his fibula in 2016. It was Week 16. The Raiders were on the verge of going 12-3, and down went their MVP. Just like that, their first winning season since 2002 was done.

Sunday brought out those memories more than anything.

“I’d like to say we could’ve sent the Raiders fans off with a lot better finish than that,” Jon Gruden said. “I think most importantly, before we talk about the game, is I’d like to thank the fans. I’d like to thank the city of Oakland for supporting the Raiders and being faithful in all kinds of seasons. I’ll miss them. I love them and I’m sorry about the outcome today.”

The common sentiment is that the fans deserved more. And that’s true. But that’s beside the point. The truth is, Raiders fans didn’t need better performances to be Raiders fans.

Sunday’s performance was the rightful end to an era — a raucous crowd partied before the game and turned up during the game. They were ready to celebrate. Another missed postseason, another losing campaign didn’t matter. The prospect of a last home win was enough.

That’s what stood out Sunday, the amazing loyalty and fervor of Raiders fans. There are Raiders fans across the nation. But the epicenter is here, in Oakland, where the culture of a jilted fan base has willed itself into a nation. And they didn’t need championships or postseason victories. They have been defined by rabid energy, a relentless hope. Their unconditional love for the Raiders was so strong, it has convinced the franchise it is better off in Las Vegas, presuming the passion will follow them.

Sunday crystalized just how much the Raiders have been through. How much they’ve been let down, embarrassed, disappointed.

Since the Raiders returned to Oakland in 1995, they’ve managed just four winning seasons. Sunday’s loss guaranteed they won’t get a fifth this year. Life as East Bay Raiders fans, now twice spurned despite their love, has been about enduring heartbreak and sports-related traumas. But those hard times were foundational to the spirit and resilience that has come to define Raiders fans. The rough edges and perennial hope, the communal inclinations of the fan base, it was all forged by enduring Raiders hardships.

The brighter days never came. The championship to make it all worth it never arrived. So the Raiders leave with one last scar to commemorate this relationship steeped in heartache.

The Raiders had a chance to win it, but Carr couldn’t produce one last touchdown. When the drive stalled, Daniel Carlson missed a 50-yard field goal. He got another attempt after a Jacksonville penalty for running into the kicker moved him 5 yards closer. Carlson missed again.

Then a backup quarterback named Gardner Minshew II drove the Jaguars 65 yards in seven plays, winning the game with a 4-yard touchdown to Chris Conley.

It wasn’t the first time a game-winning touchdown crushed the Raiders. The back of the end zone, by the goal post, above the “D” in Raiders, that’s where Calvin Johnson caught a game-winning touchdown in 2011. The Lions marched 98 yards for the go-ahead score, handing the Raiders their third straight loss and knocking them out of the playoff hunt after they started 7-4.

A few feet to the left of that spot, above where the “A” is now in Raiders, is where Andre Rison did the same thing in 1997. He caught the game-winning touchdown on a Monday night — from Elvis Grbac — to beat the Raiders in the final seconds.

Oh, man. Raiders fans have endured some nightmares together on Monday nights. They’ve had some great moments in prime time, for sure, including Jerry Rice catching his 200th touchdown in Denver in 2002. But there have been some embarrassments handed out in Oakland.

Remember the 2008 opener, when D’Angelo Hall was the big acquisition, how badly he and the rest of the Raiders secondary got torched by Denver’s Jay Cutler and rookie receiver Eddie Royal? That was a Monday night. It was the second time in three years the Raiders opened the season by getting drubbed on Monday night. In 2006, LaDanian Tomlinson rushed for 131 yards as the San Diego Chargers beat the Raiders, 27-0, in Oakland.

The most memorable though was probably on Dec. 22, 2003. Brett Favre’s father died the day before and the Packers quarterback could do no wrong that night against the Raiders. He was in a zone typified by a bomb he threw to Javon Walker. Favre was hit as he threw and lobbed a pass that traveled 55 yards in the air, with Walker coming down with it over Phillip Buchanon and Anthony Dorsett. Favre was in mourning, but that night Raiders fans were the ones grieving in front of the nation.

Those losses became badges of honor, evidence of the strength of the relationship. They didn’t chase Raiders fans away. They should be a fledgling few. Yet, they’ve been riders the whole way.

The phenomenon reminds of a line from CeeLo Green. Long before he was the frontman for the pop duo Gnarls Barkley, he was a rapper with the Atlanta rap group Goodie Mob. On their “Soul Food” album, on a song called “Thought Process,” he best summarized an ideology that’s akin to being a Raiders fan:

It would be kinda nice to have mo’

But I kinda like being po’

At least I know what my friends here fo’

Being a Raiders fan has been NFL poverty. It wasn’t always this way. In their first 22 seasons in Oakland, the Raiders had a winning record 17 times, won two Super Bowls, lost another and reached seven other AFC Championship Games. And then they left for Los Angeles. But since they returned to Oakland, it’s been a quarter-century of heartburn.

There is no such thing as a bandwagon Raiders fan. They’ve been fully initiated into the nation of heartache. They’ve earned their every moment, every pregame bite, every mid-game swig, every postgame rant. And if you were outside that stadium before the game, it was clear why. The struggle of being a Raider fan has been a unifying force. They’ve built a community of the scorned, who have a good time with each other to massage the frustration their team causes them.

And that frustration is aplenty.

Remember when Randy Moss came back to the Coliseum with the Patriots in 2008, after a disappointing stint with Oakland, and caught two touchdown passes from backup quarterback Matt Cassel? After each, Moss turned to the Black Hole and pointed at his name on the back of his jersey. The Raiders defense let Moss come back in here and disrespect them.

Oh, man. The Raiders defense has been disrespected quite a bit over the years, huh? Remember when Nick Foles threw for 406 yards and seven touchdowns for the Eagles in 2013? Six weeks later, Chiefs running back Jamaal Charles scored five touchdowns and had 195 yards receiving because the Raiders couldn’t stop a screen pass.

How much could a fanbase take? Raiders Nation was game. Throwback in their hardcoreness, old school in their appreciation of pain.

The Raiders honored that history, that legacy, with one last moment of humiliation. Ain’t no Hollywood endings in these parts anyway. The chip on the shoulder, the edge that makes them special, is born of slights and struggle.

In the fourth quarter of Sunday’s Oakland finale, the Raiders revealed the results for the greatest moment in Raiders history. It was Marcus Allen’s reverse-the-field touchdown run in Super Bowl XVIII. They even cut to Allen, who was in a booth and received a nice ovation.

At the Coliseum finale, culminating the Raiders’ history in Oakland, the greatest moment selected was from the Raiders’ time in Los Angeles.

Then to cap off the disrespect, the Jaguars once-backup quarterback orchestrated the game-winning drive in the face of the Black Hole.

“I probably saw more middle fingers today than I have in my whole life,” Minshew said. “These fans have a good time, though, and it was fun to ruin that for them.”

Hollywood couldn’t craft a more perfect ending for the Raiders’ time in Oakland.

— Reported from Oakland

(Photo: Daniel Shirey / Getty Images

SuperBowl4 12-16-2019 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 14633511)
With the exception of the comments regarding Patrick, I completely renounce this butt****ing moron of a post.

Thank you.

SuperBowl4 12-16-2019 08:38 AM

Maylock/Gruden/Davis. The trifecta! Just lose baby!

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-19-2019 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperBowl4 (Post 14659055)
Thank you.

Do you remember the program "RIF"? No, you don't.

Mahomes_Is_God 12-19-2019 02:00 AM

Can somebody please post the gif of their game-losing hail mary that bounces off the Raider helmet? It's one of the most beautiful things ever and I want to have it with me always.

Buehler445 12-19-2019 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 14659035)
I think it’s sad that the move to Vegas kills the Raiders mystique and makes them a more boring franchise. Sure, they haven’t been ‘The Raiders’ in a while, but the move to Vegas will suck.

Like I give a ****. It knocks a few miles off the trip from KC for our guys. I just hope they suck ass for eternity so we can have 2 mini byes a year. In fact can you ****s and the chargers go ahead and follow suit? I’d love to have Prime Cheatriot AFC conditions for.....well ever.

Chiefs=Champions 12-19-2019 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 14665136)
Like I give a ****. It knocks a few miles off the trip from KC for our guys. I just hope they suck ass for eternity so we can have 2 mini byes a year. In fact can you ****s and the chargers go ahead and follow suit? I’d love to have Prime Cheatriot AFC conditions for.....well ever.

9 in a row against the Broncos is a pretty good start!


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