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Chiefshrink 07-04-2020 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 15051531)
Actually, if you look at the data, testing hasn't increased to match the rise in cases at all. Not to mention the increased positivity and hospitalizations.
Disagree. If you know the cases of infections are rising then you have more testing available to the general public. How are you defining "testing" ?

Asymptomatic thinking you might have Covid or after you display symptoms? Because I assure you the first two months of this virus, you could not just casually walk into an urgent care clinic and get tested for it. No testing readily available for the general public because this virus had not been seen before. Now you can and why there are many more infections reported.

And let's not forget the Chinese who IMHO purposely created and allowed this virus to be released all over the world with us in their crosshairs, starting this virus back in the fall of 19 not saying a word allowing hundreds of flights coming to America until known and confronted by our govt in late Jan/Feb of 20. That didn't help matters either.

Bearcat 07-04-2020 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 15051525)
But not surprised in the least that the deep staters and radical leftists always throw the baby out with the bath water on every issue. Just like DEFUND THE POLICE !!!:rolleyes:
Bye, yet again.

Baby Lee 07-04-2020 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 15051541)
Bye, yet again.
Shrink heading somewhere? Have a safe passage, bud. . . Let us know when you get back. . . .

Titty Meat 07-04-2020 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 15051409)
That is literally impossible.
How so?

MahomesMagic 07-04-2020 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 15051532)
Flu is just as lethal to the elderly and pre-existing health condition folks as C19 and let's compare "real death stats" when it is all said and done. But wait, we won't be able to do that so easily because all deaths now in hospitals and nursing homes are classified as C-19. It will take time for sure to sort this all out BUT dollars to donuts the real C-19 death stats(C-19 only, no pre-existing health conditions) will not be anymore than the flu.;)

The European data for excess mortality points to Covid 19 as a bit worse than the most recent bad flu season of 2017-2018.

Bearcat 07-04-2020 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 15051552)
Shrink heading somewhere? Have a safe passage, bud. . . Let us know when you get back. . . .
I'd say DC, but that might be a little too high brow for him.

BigCatDaddy 07-04-2020 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 15051396)
(sigh)

How are we 4 months into this and people still don't understand that IFR for young, healthy people isn't, and never was, the concern.
Wrong. People had no idea what to expect for some time.

Donger 07-04-2020 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 15051594)
Wrong. People had no idea what to expect for some time.
It's not wrong at all. We had data in early March that young people were dying at much lower rates than the elderly.

BigCatDaddy 07-04-2020 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 15051599)
It's not wrong at all. We had data in early March that young people were dying at much lower rates than the elderly.
We only had 6 deaths as of March 15th.

Donger 07-04-2020 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 15051616)
We only had 6 deaths as of March 15th.
And?

Bearcat 07-04-2020 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 15051594)
Wrong. People had no idea what to expect for some time.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6912e2.htm

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Weekly / March 27, 2020 / 69(12);343-346

On March 18, 2020, this report was posted online as an MMWR Early Release.

CDC COVID-19 Response Team (View author affiliations)

Summary
What is already known about this topic?

Early data from China suggest that a majority of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) deaths have occurred among adults aged ≥60 years and among persons with serious underlying health conditions.

What is added by this report?

This first preliminary description of outcomes among patients with COVID-19 in the United States indicates that fatality was highest in persons aged ≥85, ranging from 10% to 27%, followed by 3% to 11% among persons aged 65–84 years, 1% to 3% among persons aged 55-64 years, <1% among persons aged 20–54 years, and no fatalities among persons aged ≤19 years.

What are the implications for public health practice?

COVID-19 can result in severe disease, including hospitalization, admission to an intensive care unit, and death, especially among older adults. Everyone can take actions, such as social distancing, to help slow the spread of COVID-19 and protect older adults from severe illness.

BigCatDaddy 07-04-2020 12:28 PM
"Early data from China*"

LMAO Nobody bought anything they were selling. The country was in a full blown panic and many STILL don't understand the difference in risk among age groups.

Donger 07-04-2020 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 15051629)
"Early data from China*"

LMAO Nobody bought anything they were selling. The country was in a full blown panic and many STILL don't understand the difference in risk among age groups.
You mean that early data that has been proven accurate world-wide? And I guess you missed this?

What is added by this report?

This first preliminary description of outcomes among patients with COVID-19 in the United States indicates that fatality was highest in persons aged ≥85, ranging from 10% to 27%, followed by 3% to 11% among persons aged 65–84 years, 1% to 3% among persons aged 55-64 years, <1% among persons aged 20–54 years, and no fatalities among persons aged ≤19 years.

I understand you have an agenda, but you look really foolish.

Bearcat 07-04-2020 12:37 PM
With America shutting down in March, let's now pretend people and the media didn't latch onto that... JFC. LMAO

BigRedChief 07-04-2020 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 15051404)
Well, it seems like our policy is based on a one-size-fits all approach. Instead of locking down the young and healthy we should protect the vulnerable the best we can and move on with our lives.
So your saying some should stay home, get paid and others go to work and help pay for them to stay home. Good luck selling that plan.
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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 15051416)
I like that idea a whole lot better than the ridiculous concept of making 5 year old kids wear masks in schools in an attempt to destroy another year of their education.
Anyone that has or had kids or knows someone with kids that age can tell you there is no chance to practice social distancing, wear a mask or wash their hands properly with kids that age. Now your immediately exposing the teacher, janitorial staff other workers at the school. And their grandma when they bring that crap home.

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 15051577)
The European data for excess mortality points to Covid 19 as a bit worse than the most recent bad flu season of 2017-2018.
I'm still obese, have high blood pressure, 60 years old. I've not had a cold/flu type illness in 2.5 years. Not a single day. No temp. Nada. Correlates when I started exercising and lost 100lbs. You think I'll have the same results if I get Covid? I'd rather not take that chance.


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