Yea, I figured that out and deleted. That's all that came up for me when I did a google search...

This supports the suspected behavior much better:

https://theconservativetreehouse.com...ideo-evidence/

Only other thing is someone cut the pulldown and put it somewhere else in the garage. That's plausible as well.

But they have no video footage of it............. Right.........

Like I said this screams of MAGA hat guys in Chicago at 2AM.

Is this a dude saying Nascar was better when it was just a bunch of racist hicks? That might be about the dumbest ****ing thing you could ever say right now.

I don't buy that picture as real at all. Nobody ties a garage pull down like a noose. And even if they did it (the knot) would have just been pulled down or apart from using it.

And I would think the other drivers and crews would pick up on this. It's just too much of a coincidence to right it off out of hand though as presented.

Yea, someone that worked in that shop would have recognized it. Think about it, you have to pull down on that rope every time you close the door, and sometimes when you open it. having a slip knot or noose on the end of it would just end up with the knot pulled through. No way that thing was there after a few days use let alone seven months later.

Nope, the hand pull is real. About :50 in.

https://youtu.be/VyL4UoX2Nqc

I will agree that NASCAR did it to themselves, a long time ago, and what's killing it had nothing to do with race (skin color). That being said, the Wallace deal is ****ing bullshit if somebody put a noose in his garage. There's no room for that bullshit in the world and I still hope the person who put it there is hung with it at high noon in a city square.

Who says they don't have video?

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Yea, looks like it was there. Looks like someone had too much time on their hands and stood there making a noose. Still doesn't make sense, you have to pull on it every time you close the door.

And Wallace surely knows camera's are there and would surely get caught. Before I ever do anything nefarious I always look for a camera first.

From what I’ve seen they people making the claim have zero evidence

the problem with that picture of Paul Menard's car taken in "November 2019" is the Cup series wasn't in Talladega in November of 2019. The fall Talladega race was held on October 13 and 14th(due to a rain delay).

The video was published in November, it doesnt say when the video was taken. But you are right that the picture labels are misleading.

where's this video at

Posted a few posts back.

:)

Sure dates, etc but the main underlying fact is it wasn't specifically placed there because Bubba was in the stall.

A garage door loop is tied differently to maintain the form. They do look very similar from a distance though.

If this is what this incident was actually based on, holy shit. If this ends up a staged woke show, that selfie pic he took with all the crew members and teams behind him and all the other actions this weekend just make me want to puke. It also makes the stories he's told feel like a cringe show considering some had doubts about them when he told them.

I can't believe I'm left hoping some racist actually put a noose in that stall in order to believe this wasn't a ratings pumping woke show put on by a toilet swirling entity.

GO woke, GO Broke

A Nascar thread on CP hasn't gotten this much run in a while.

Shouldn't there be a 2020 edition?

2020: Volume 10

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sometimes the racists just come out and show themselves.<br><br>This woman was part of a counter-protest to a <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BlackLivesMatter?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BlackLivesMatter</a> rally in Branson, Missouri today.<br><br> <a href="https://t.co/aq3slWXoh7">pic.twitter.com/aq3slWXoh7</a></p>&mdash; Joshua Potash (@JoshuaPotash) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoshuaPotash/status/1274903011115044871?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 22, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It'll be interesting to see what the investigation turns up.

It doesn't make sense that Wallace would mistake a hand-pull rope for a noose. If he'd ever raced there before, he had to have seen them before.

It also doesn't seem likely that he's a Jussie Smollet type. His car owner is Richard Petty, and I just don't believe Petty would put up with anything remotely like that kind of behavior, the optics be damned. In fact, Petty seems to be a big fan of the kid, and even said that he thinks that Wallace has a big future ahead of him.

anyway, we'll see what turns up.

Like i said... everywhere.

BIG FUTURE (Hasn't won a single race in 200+ attempts)

link??

I thought it had been said that bubba didnt even see it. That it was found and taken down before he ever got to the garage...

His Crew found it, bubba never saw it.

If it was just a hand-pull rope, then this is a MAJOR face plant by NASCAR.

Someone should have been able to correctly identify it and inform the team before this became public knowledge.

You can’t make that kind of an error at this time.

Who said anything about a error...... When they put this story out they knew EXACTLY what they were doing.

They had just banned a confederate flag from NASCAR. What better way to solidify that than "Oh look racism"

Hmm. Do I give more weight to some anonymous keyboard jockey or Richard Petty in their assessment of a NASCAR driver? Such a tough question . . .

Cool,

Uh well you roll with the guy who never wins races. You know because Richard Petty thinks he has big things in his future.

I mean its not like he is pushing a agenda for attention or anything....

https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/648/...uare.w1200.jpg

After doing some research they are reporting that a noose was found in a tree on Sonoma raceway property.
On my phone so can't embed.

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I agree. If that's the rope in question everyone who worked in that garage would know it. And I would hope they'd speak up right away just to prevent this whole thing going any further. That's why I really doubt it is the rope in question.

Who is reporting that because that was no what was released by Richard Petty's team.

Lmao

Again WHY OH WHY would Richard Petty be pushing this for attention if it could be a hoax.

Geee I just don't know why!?!!?

https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/648/...uare.w1200.jpg

:facepalm:

Not surprised at all. Missouri has never been short of racists, right wing fruit loops, and idiots.

It's a lot worse than just your normal collection of racist dipshits


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My problem with this being staged is it wouldn't actually benefit Bubba. He's already been a fairly popular driver for the last few years despite his relative lack of success(which is more to do with the equipment that he is in than it does with his talent; put him in the #9 NAPA Camaro at Hendrick and he would probably be doing just as well as it's current occupant Chase Elliott, or the #12 Mustang at Penske with Ryan Blaney). He is a young up and comer, that unfortunately isn't in a top team like Hendrick/Penske/Gibbs. That's his biggest handicap.

And just the last few weeks he has garnered major attention from not only in the sport, but outside of the sport as well. Alvin Kamara and LeBron James had already become fans of him before this past weekend, he was already a leader among NASCAR drivers on social media trends prior to this weekend, non NASCAR (and even non sports) media was already talking about him constantly prior to this weekend. So what does Bubba, or his team, or Richard Petty Motorsports, stand to gain from faking this incident? Doesn't seem smart on their part, let alone NASCAR's.

Not just asking people here, but as a general question.

Google noose found at Sonoma raceway and pick your media outlet.

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Well I mean you do live in Missouri and you cover at least 3 of those criteria.

GOT EM

Yeah, not sure you know how these racial hoax work. Please see Jesse Smoilett (Spelling?)

Evidently he did it to keep his job. And look at all the hapless reeruns that gathered around him.

So why hasn't there been a picture of this "noose" released yet?

but he doesn't need this to keep his job. That's the point. He was not in danger of losing his ride prior to any of the events over the past few weeks, let alone the noose allegedly being found in his stall at Dega.

IIt's not like petty has great equipment or has been a major player as an owner. His team(s) consistently finish 15-25th. So it's not like hes picking the best at the top level. Beyond that, owners pick their drivers with at the very least considering their marketability because they have to get sponsors to back their drivers or they dont have a team to field.

So while I dont have anything negative to say about bubba, pretending that he must be an awesome driver because his owner has the most wins in nascar history is flawed.

Except this would draw more attention to him and make him a victim for people to rally around during this movement.

You seriously believe that this happened?

FFS Richard Petty has a BLM Car, they just banned the Confederate Flag. I'm more willing to believe they did this as a PR Stunt to draw attention to the "NEW NASCAR" than anything else.

Adopt a highway.LMAO

Like I said R's, RWFL's, I's.

how would the risk versus reward with this latest incident be more beneficial to him than the notoriety he already gained from the two instances here? It wouldn't be.

There you have it. Mention racists, right wing fruit loops, or idiots and marclueless comes running to the meeting.

If I was going the conspiracy theory way, I'd go with nascar staging this, not petty or bubba.

hell NASCAR as a whole has gained notoriety just by coming back and being on TV since mid May when very few other sports are able to. They too don't need this.

Look at like the second race back when there was an on track incident involving Chase Elliott and Kyle Busch, that instantly made NASCAR a trending topic. Then a couple races later another on track incident with Chase and Joey Logano, again lead to NASCAR trending.

Yea, they've almost got the market cornered.

Gaining notoriety is a lot different than gaining an audience. They've been bleeding fans for years and then alienated probably half of their fan base by vowing to enforce a rule they've had in place for several years but ignored. They need more than this is going to get them.

NASCAR just wanted to prove to everyone they are the most Woke sport!

I think what will come out, is someone cut the garage cord down and put it in the seat of the car.

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That's kinda what I'm assuming too. Hell just putting it anywhere would be enough.

I don't believe for a second that a crew member saw the pull cord and mistakenly hought it was a noose directed at Wallace, and no one caught that it was in every other stall before it blew up.

Phelps doesn't use the strong language he used yesterday

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The notion that NASCAR (or Wallace's team) did this to bring attention to themselves is absurd. They've been fighting a negative racial stereotype since they're begining. They're not gonna hang a damn noose to show how woke they are

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Is that with the intention of being racist? Or a misunderstanding?

Also, I don’t think they said they found it in the seat of his car. Didn’t they say it was hanging in his garage? I may be mistaken here.

They haven't released any details other than they found it in his stall.

If it's found that someone cut the garage cord and put it somewhere in the garage, it's with only one intent.

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This is where I'm at. They already had attention, why risk losing it all, or even being ostracized from the sport entirely, by planting this? Would be incredibly stupid.

That's not to say I'm entirely sure someone maliciously left this in his stall, this still could be a huge misunderstanding. We are just going to have to wait and see what NASCAR/the FBI/Justice Department(my understanding is the investigation is currently completely out of NASCAR's hands and is being handled by the latter two, hence why we haven't heard much beyond the initial report) find out and disclose.

I'm not saying they planted it because if it was the cord, WHICH it looks like it the most likely outcome as of right now they just ran with the story.

Turns out to be false, no harm no foul right?

Meanwhile their Team gets alot of attention, during a time when the sport shouldn't be struggling. They are trying to reach out to a different demographic that will NEVER watch their sport.

If you don't think this mystery hasn't already been solved I don't know what to tell you. They know who did it, they know how it happened already. There are Camera in the garage and all over the place.

There is ZERO reason to string this along.

string this along

it hasn't even been 48 hours since the supposed noose was found

it takes 10 minutes to pull footage up.

Maybe they’re having their attorneys look into it before they respond to avoid a lawsuit?

I would be shocked if nascar didn’t know who did it. I would assume they knew within minutes.

and it probably did, but why are you or anyone else not involved in the investigation entitled to see the video immediately?

have patience

https://www.al.com/sports/2020/06/na...d-in-tree.html


Sonoma Raceway officials are investigating what appears to be a noose, which was found hanging from a tree at the raceway in California.
Raceway President Steve Page said a “piece of twine tied in what appeared to be a noose” was found hanging from a tree Saturday behind a former administrative office, news outlets reported.
Page said the incident was under investigation by the Sonoma County Sheriff’s Department. He also said he has asked staff and on-site business tenants to share any information or “any possible alternative explanation.”

Sonoma was closed over the weekend due the coronavirus pandemic.

The discovery at Sonoma, according to The Associated Press, came before a noose was found in the garage of NASCAR driver Bubba Wallace on Sunday at Talladega Superspeedway in Alabama. Wallace is the only full-time Black driver in NASCAR.

It just occurred to me...now would be a great time to be a "professional investigator". Plenty of work.

If NASCAR is willing a say that a noose was found, then I don’t see the harm in at least releasing a pic of it.

If it’s legit, then a pic would probably silence most of the hoax theories.

right but if it wasnt legit I could see slow rolling release

If it isn’t legit, then I would expect NASCAR to simply drag this out as long as possible and hope people forget or stop caring

Kinda wondering the same. It just doesn't make sense in those garage bays that look wide open that no one saw anything and cameras captured nothing.

I suppose with the secretive nature of what those mechanics do to eek out every advantage they can in a car maybe they are leery of cameras. There has got to be a lot of spying between owners of those teams.

I will say that the FBI has involved means the nature of what was found maybe a little more serious than a garage door pulldown. Most garages and hangers I have been around used a chain that can hooked by a link to hold the door at a position they like.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NASCAR has done more to support Bubba Wallace in the last 48 hours than the NFL has done to support Colin Kaepernick in 4 years</p>&mdash; Master (@MasterTes) <a href="https://twitter.com/MasterTes/status/1275430731884494848?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 23, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Its almost like one of these people didn't try to be divisive asshole.

Is this your first time thinking about a conspiracy theory? :Poke: ;)