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pugsnotdrugs19 09-27-2021 10:02 PM

In these highlights from just a few years ago (2018, 2019), Gordon looked even better than I remember. This is better stuff than we saw from Watkins in his time with KC: https://youtu.be/dWW3bbBBWnc

I’m cautiously excited. Not gonna suspend him for weed so stay off the PEDs and it’s all about catching TDs.

-King- 09-27-2021 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 15860098)
In these highlights from just a few years ago (2018, 2019), Gordon looked even better than I remember. This is better stuff than we saw from Watkins in his time with KC: https://youtu.be/dWW3bbBBWnc

I’m cautiously excited. Not gonna suspend him for weed so stay off the PEDs and it’s all about catching TDs.

If he's just 75% of what he was, that would be huge. It would be unstoppable. He can run any route, outsize a lot of DBs, has decent hands... It would be ridiculous. Deep balls to Tyreek would be back in town because they couldn't double him anymore, and Kelce would get even more space to operate in the middle. Even Hardman would be better, being able to play slot only and gadget plays only keeping him fresh and ready to break one throughout the game.

...just gotta hope he's in football shape. Not concerned with him being 30 but it will be interesting to see how he looks with all the time off and possibly any damage he's already done to his body with his substance abuse issues.

Chiefspants 09-27-2021 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15860017)
I honestly didn’t realize he was still that productive, but I do remember watching him that season, and he didn’t look nearly as dominant.

Maybe Mahomes and Reid are a better fit though :shrug:

That surprised me, too. I think I just had really high standards for Josh Gordon and because he wasn't his 2013 self I thought he was washed.

He managed to put up some great numbers, though.

smithandrew051 09-27-2021 10:20 PM

Hard to think of a better situation for Gordon than this.

Best QB in the game.
Best offensive mind at HC.
Best deep threat in the game who is constantly doubled.
Best TE in the game.
Exciting young OL, which is beginning to show that we can have a legit rushing game.
Shitty defense, so you know we’ll be passing A LOT.

If he can’t succeed here, then he’s done.

tredadda 09-27-2021 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15860038)
No doubt, if he’s even the guy that we saw in NE, that’s a huge win, but that was also a couple years ago, and he’s done nothing since but turn 30.

That's the thing, we don't know what we are getting with him. We do know what we are getting with the combination of Hardman/Robinson/Pringle/Kemp/Fountain. It just shows how little this team thinks of those guys that they would bring in a 30 year old who hasn't played in two years and is more likely (based on history) to get suspended before the year ends vs actually finishing a season.

carcosa 09-27-2021 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 15859631)
So you quoted the whole thing, because 1 person quoting the thing in its entirety just didn't take up quite enough room on the page for you?

You LIKE scrolling past shit you already read, too?

Great ****ing job. You been hanging with Josh Gordon? Pass out in any fast food parking lots lately?

Here, I bolded the interesting parts for you:

Middle and high school — Gordon told GQ‘s Clay Skipper he first started self-medicating with Xanax, marijuana, and codeine in middle school. He said his initial usage stemmed from social awkwardness, anxiety, feelings of inadequacy, and “adolescent trauma-based fear.” According to Gordon, the drugs helped “numb those nerves so [he could] just function every day.” When he was in seventh grade, Gordon said he took a “whole bar” of Xanax and ended up “nodding off” and “drooling” in class. He said his peers started laughing at him.

“The teacher’s back was turned, and I just kinda raised my hand and asked to go to the restroom real quick,” Gordon told Skipper. “That was my first experience of a high. In 7th grade. And it was to that extent. So I was definitely out of control.”

Gordon told Sports Illustrated‘s Ben Baskin he was expelled from two middle schools for stealing electronics from other students. During that time, his usage also continued. Gordon earned a basketball scholarship at Westbury Christian, a prep school in Houston, but was thrown out in the 10th grade for marijuana. He then attended and graduated from Lamar High, a public school in Houston.

At Lamar, Gordon said he joined a gang, Six Deuce Harvard Park Brim Blood, which involved carrying and shooting a gun — never “maliciously,” he said — stealing cars, fighting, scamming businesses with counterfeit money, and dealing drugs.

Gordon said he sold drugs, mainly marijuana, to “feed” himself. He said he smoked marijuana every day and drank vodka from Minute Maid bottles during class. He said he also started drinking codeine syrup mixed with soda his junior year and experimented with Xanax, hydrocodone, and oxycodone at nearly every opportunity. Before football games, Gordon said he would chug Mad Dog 20-20, flavored fortified wine, to gauge whether he could play drunk.

College (Baylor): Gordon was recruited by several Div. I programs, but chose Baylor because his supervised probation following a felony credit card theft when he was 17 years old prevented him from living outside the state of Texas. Gordon was required to return home to Houston once a month for drug tests and he said he only passed because his diluted samples were never flagged.

As a sophomore, Gordon was arrested mid-season when police found him and teammate Willie Jefferson asleep in a car parked in the drive-thru lane of a Taco Bell at 2 a.m. Officers found multiple bags of marijuana in the car, and both players were charged with misdemeanor marijuana possession, though the charges were dropped. Gordon’s coach at the time, Art Briles, also suspended him. Gordon played in 13 games, recording 42 catches for 714 yards and seven touchdowns that season.

While at Baylor, Gordon said a dealer from home would send him as much as six pounds of weed per week that he would sell in Dallas, Austin, and San Antonio. He estimates he banked over $10,000 per month from dealing.

Gordon told Uninterrupted in October 2017 that a coach at Baylor helped him cheat drug tests. Gordon said the coach instructed him to take “these bottles of detox.”

“I’ve been enabled most of my life honestly,” Gordon said. “I’ve been enabled by coaches, teachers, professors — everybody pretty much gave me a second chance just because of my ability.”

Briles suspended Gordon again before the start of his junior season — this time indefinitely. Briles said the suspension was for an undisclosed rules violation, but Gordon has since revealed in interviews “it was due to a failed marijuana test.”

Despite his suspensions at Baylor, Gordon received transfer offers from schools like UCLA, USC, Oregon, and Utah. He said he would smoke blunts and pop Adderall on the way to a few visits. Gordon left Baylor in 2011.

College (Utah): Gordon transferred to Utah, where he said he tried cocaine for the first time. He told SI he also began taking Adderall daily. After failing another drug test, he returned home to Houston, where he said he began selling marijuana again to support his family. Gordon never took a snap at Utah, instead opting for the NFL’s supplemental draft in 2012.

NFL (Cleveland Browns): Gordon told GQ he had a pregame ritual where he would take bong rips and/or shots of Grand Marnier or whiskey before kick-off.

“I would drink probably like half a glass, or a couple shots to try and warm my system up,” he said. “To get the motor running. That’s what I would do for games.”

Gordon estimated he had something in his system for “probably every game of [his] career,” including those in college. Gordon said he also frequently missed meetings and often showed up late — with bloodshot eyes.

2012: Gordon’s rookie year is the only season he’s played in all 16 games. He logged 50 receptions for 805 yards and five touchdowns.

2013: Prior to the start of the 2013 season, Gordon was suspended two games for violating the NFL’s substance abuse policy. He started Cleveland’s remaining 14 games, hauling in 87 receptions for 1,646 yards and nine touchdowns. In Weeks 12 and 13, Gordon became the first NFL player to record back-to-back 200-yard receiving games. He finished the year as the league leader in receiving yards and earned first-team All-Pro as well as Pro-Bowl honors.

2014: Prior to the start of the 2014 season, Gordon was arrested for a DWI in Raleigh, N.C. According to police, he was pulled over just before 3 a.m. for driving 50 mph in a 35 mph zone. His blood-alcohol level was .09 — .01 over the legal limit. Two months after Gordon’s arrest, the NFL announced he had been suspended the entire 2014 season for a failed drug test (marijuana). The suspension was later reduced to 10 games due to the league’s reformed drug policy.

Gordon played five games in 2014, recording 24 catches for 303 yards. He was suspended by the Browns for the final game of the season for a violation of team rules. Gordon said he had missed the team’s Saturday walkthrough.

“I stayed out late, but the thing is we had to be up in the morning for like a 7:30 a.m. team meeting,” Gordon told Uninterrupted. “I didn’t wake up until 10 o’clock, 10:15, coming out of a blackout. I’m getting a bunch of texts and calls, you know, from coaches, ‘Where you at? We’re headed to the tarmac already.’ I’m like, ‘Ah, s***.'”

2015: Gordon was suspended the entire 2015 season due to another violation (alcohol) of the league’s substance abuse policy. Days after the suspension was reported, Gordon published an open letter in The Cauldron in which he acknowledged his “repeated transgressions.”

“I failed myself when started using marijuana regularly as a young teenager,” he wrote. “I failed myself when I ruined a once-in-a-lifetime chance to be Robert Griffin III’s running mate during his Heisman Trophy-winning season at Baylor. I failed myself when I didn’t check with the league office to ensure that my doctor-prescribed, codeine-based medicine was allowed under NFL guidelines. I failed myself when I was arrested for driving a motor vehicle with a blood-alcohol level over the legal limit. I failed myself when I missed a team walkthrough late in the season and was suspended for the final game of the year.”

2016: Gordon’s initial application for reinstatement was denied by the league in April because he failed another drug test. Gordon was reinstated by the NFL in July, allowing him to participate in training camp, but he remained suspended for four games to start the season. Gordon was expected to play in Week 5, but he elected to enroll in a 30-day intensive rehab program in New Hampshire.

“After careful thought and deep consideration, I’ve decided that I need to step away from pursuing my return to the Browns and my football career to enter an in-patient rehabilitation facility,” Gordon said in a statement. “This is the right decision for me and one that I hope will enable me to gain full control of my life and continue on a path to reach my full potential as a person. I appreciate the support of the NFL, NFLPA, the Browns, my teammates, my agent, and the community through this extremely challenging process.”

Following his completion of the program, Gordon once again had to be reinstated by the league. He did not take a snap during the 2016 season.

Gordon told GQ he stayed sober for six months following his initial 30-day stint in rehab. He then wanted to celebrate “in the way [he knows] how,” which was drugs and alcohol. Gordon said at this point he reached his “rock bottom” and checked back into rehab for over three months.

“I found myself around the city of Gainesville just wandering, looking for a drug dealer,” he told Uninterrupted. “Looking for people on the street corner, whatever smelled like weed, somebody that looked like they had something, asking random people, knocking on like smoke shop storefronts seeing where I could find some stuff at. I was just looking for something, some type of relief.”

According to GQ, Gordon was also informed in 2016 that there was a warrant out for his arrest for failure to comply with a paternity test. He said he wondered, “Who’s this girl? If there is a kid, who is this kid?” Gordon admitted to being his daughter’s father in court.

2017: Gordon’s application for reinstatement was first denied by the NFL in May. He reapplied in the fall and was granted conditional eligibility, with the potential to be active in Week 13. Gordon played in five games in 2017, recording 18 receptions for 335 yards and a touchdown.

2018: Gordon announced he would miss the start of training camp to focus on his recovery. He said his absence was “part of [his] overall health and treatment plan.”

“I am reaching out to you all personally and letting you know that I am not only doing great physically but mentally as well,” Gordon wrote in a statement.

Gordon remains in Stage 3 of the NFL’s substance-abuse program, which means he is subject to random drug testing. If he fails a test, he faces another indefinite suspension. Gordon told Uninterrupted the consequences of his actions “never really set in,” but he also called the experience “humbling.”

“If you fail a drug test, you know, this is over, they’re not going to let you keep playing,” Gordon said. “I never really took it serious. I thought I could keep on doing it and getting away with it and getting away with it.”

tredadda 09-27-2021 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 15860109)
Here, I bolded the interesting parts for you:

Middle and high school — Gordon told GQ‘s Clay Skipper he first started self-medicating with Xanax, marijuana, and codeine in middle school. He said his initial usage stemmed from social awkwardness, anxiety, feelings of inadequacy, and “adolescent trauma-based fear.” According to Gordon, the drugs helped “numb those nerves so [he could] just function every day.” When he was in seventh grade, Gordon said he took a “whole bar” of Xanax and ended up “nodding off” and “drooling” in class. He said his peers started laughing at him.

“The teacher’s back was turned, and I just kinda raised my hand and asked to go to the restroom real quick,” Gordon told Skipper. “That was my first experience of a high. In 7th grade. And it was to that extent. So I was definitely out of control.”

Gordon told Sports Illustrated‘s Ben Baskin he was expelled from two middle schools for stealing electronics from other students. During that time, his usage also continued. Gordon earned a basketball scholarship at Westbury Christian, a prep school in Houston, but was thrown out in the 10th grade for marijuana. He then attended and graduated from Lamar High, a public school in Houston.

At Lamar, Gordon said he joined a gang, Six Deuce Harvard Park Brim Blood, which involved carrying and shooting a gun — never “maliciously,” he said — stealing cars, fighting, scamming businesses with counterfeit money, and dealing drugs.

Gordon said he sold drugs, mainly marijuana, to “feed” himself. He said he smoked marijuana every day and drank vodka from Minute Maid bottles during class. He said he also started drinking codeine syrup mixed with soda his junior year and experimented with Xanax, hydrocodone, and oxycodone at nearly every opportunity. Before football games, Gordon said he would chug Mad Dog 20-20, flavored fortified wine, to gauge whether he could play drunk.

College (Baylor): Gordon was recruited by several Div. I programs, but chose Baylor because his supervised probation following a felony credit card theft when he was 17 years old prevented him from living outside the state of Texas. Gordon was required to return home to Houston once a month for drug tests and he said he only passed because his diluted samples were never flagged.

As a sophomore, Gordon was arrested mid-season when police found him and teammate Willie Jefferson asleep in a car parked in the drive-thru lane of a Taco Bell at 2 a.m. Officers found multiple bags of marijuana in the car, and both players were charged with misdemeanor marijuana possession, though the charges were dropped. Gordon’s coach at the time, Art Briles, also suspended him. Gordon played in 13 games, recording 42 catches for 714 yards and seven touchdowns that season.

While at Baylor, Gordon said a dealer from home would send him as much as six pounds of weed per week that he would sell in Dallas, Austin, and San Antonio. He estimates he banked over $10,000 per month from dealing.

Gordon told Uninterrupted in October 2017 that a coach at Baylor helped him cheat drug tests. Gordon said the coach instructed him to take “these bottles of detox.”

“I’ve been enabled most of my life honestly,” Gordon said. “I’ve been enabled by coaches, teachers, professors — everybody pretty much gave me a second chance just because of my ability.”

Briles suspended Gordon again before the start of his junior season — this time indefinitely. Briles said the suspension was for an undisclosed rules violation, but Gordon has since revealed in interviews “it was due to a failed marijuana test.”

Despite his suspensions at Baylor, Gordon received transfer offers from schools like UCLA, USC, Oregon, and Utah. He said he would smoke blunts and pop Adderall on the way to a few visits. Gordon left Baylor in 2011.

College (Utah): Gordon transferred to Utah, where he said he tried cocaine for the first time. He told SI he also began taking Adderall daily. After failing another drug test, he returned home to Houston, where he said he began selling marijuana again to support his family. Gordon never took a snap at Utah, instead opting for the NFL’s supplemental draft in 2012.

NFL (Cleveland Browns): Gordon told GQ he had a pregame ritual where he would take bong rips and/or shots of Grand Marnier or whiskey before kick-off.

“I would drink probably like half a glass, or a couple shots to try and warm my system up,” he said. “To get the motor running. That’s what I would do for games.”

Gordon estimated he had something in his system for “probably every game of [his] career,” including those in college. Gordon said he also frequently missed meetings and often showed up late — with bloodshot eyes.

2012: Gordon’s rookie year is the only season he’s played in all 16 games. He logged 50 receptions for 805 yards and five touchdowns.

2013: Prior to the start of the 2013 season, Gordon was suspended two games for violating the NFL’s substance abuse policy. He started Cleveland’s remaining 14 games, hauling in 87 receptions for 1,646 yards and nine touchdowns. In Weeks 12 and 13, Gordon became the first NFL player to record back-to-back 200-yard receiving games. He finished the year as the league leader in receiving yards and earned first-team All-Pro as well as Pro-Bowl honors.

2014: Prior to the start of the 2014 season, Gordon was arrested for a DWI in Raleigh, N.C. According to police, he was pulled over just before 3 a.m. for driving 50 mph in a 35 mph zone. His blood-alcohol level was .09 — .01 over the legal limit. Two months after Gordon’s arrest, the NFL announced he had been suspended the entire 2014 season for a failed drug test (marijuana). The suspension was later reduced to 10 games due to the league’s reformed drug policy.

Gordon played five games in 2014, recording 24 catches for 303 yards. He was suspended by the Browns for the final game of the season for a violation of team rules. Gordon said he had missed the team’s Saturday walkthrough.

“I stayed out late, but the thing is we had to be up in the morning for like a 7:30 a.m. team meeting,” Gordon told Uninterrupted. “I didn’t wake up until 10 o’clock, 10:15, coming out of a blackout. I’m getting a bunch of texts and calls, you know, from coaches, ‘Where you at? We’re headed to the tarmac already.’ I’m like, ‘Ah, s***.'”

2015: Gordon was suspended the entire 2015 season due to another violation (alcohol) of the league’s substance abuse policy. Days after the suspension was reported, Gordon published an open letter in The Cauldron in which he acknowledged his “repeated transgressions.”

“I failed myself when started using marijuana regularly as a young teenager,” he wrote. “I failed myself when I ruined a once-in-a-lifetime chance to be Robert Griffin III’s running mate during his Heisman Trophy-winning season at Baylor. I failed myself when I didn’t check with the league office to ensure that my doctor-prescribed, codeine-based medicine was allowed under NFL guidelines. I failed myself when I was arrested for driving a motor vehicle with a blood-alcohol level over the legal limit. I failed myself when I missed a team walkthrough late in the season and was suspended for the final game of the year.”

2016: Gordon’s initial application for reinstatement was denied by the league in April because he failed another drug test. Gordon was reinstated by the NFL in July, allowing him to participate in training camp, but he remained suspended for four games to start the season. Gordon was expected to play in Week 5, but he elected to enroll in a 30-day intensive rehab program in New Hampshire.

“After careful thought and deep consideration, I’ve decided that I need to step away from pursuing my return to the Browns and my football career to enter an in-patient rehabilitation facility,” Gordon said in a statement. “This is the right decision for me and one that I hope will enable me to gain full control of my life and continue on a path to reach my full potential as a person. I appreciate the support of the NFL, NFLPA, the Browns, my teammates, my agent, and the community through this extremely challenging process.”

Following his completion of the program, Gordon once again had to be reinstated by the league. He did not take a snap during the 2016 season.

Gordon told GQ he stayed sober for six months following his initial 30-day stint in rehab. He then wanted to celebrate “in the way [he knows] how,” which was drugs and alcohol. Gordon said at this point he reached his “rock bottom” and checked back into rehab for over three months.

“I found myself around the city of Gainesville just wandering, looking for a drug dealer,” he told Uninterrupted. “Looking for people on the street corner, whatever smelled like weed, somebody that looked like they had something, asking random people, knocking on like smoke shop storefronts seeing where I could find some stuff at. I was just looking for something, some type of relief.”

According to GQ, Gordon was also informed in 2016 that there was a warrant out for his arrest for failure to comply with a paternity test. He said he wondered, “Who’s this girl? If there is a kid, who is this kid?” Gordon admitted to being his daughter’s father in court.

2017: Gordon’s application for reinstatement was first denied by the NFL in May. He reapplied in the fall and was granted conditional eligibility, with the potential to be active in Week 13. Gordon played in five games in 2017, recording 18 receptions for 335 yards and a touchdown.

2018: Gordon announced he would miss the start of training camp to focus on his recovery. He said his absence was “part of [his] overall health and treatment plan.”

“I am reaching out to you all personally and letting you know that I am not only doing great physically but mentally as well,” Gordon wrote in a statement.

Gordon remains in Stage 3 of the NFL’s substance-abuse program, which means he is subject to random drug testing. If he fails a test, he faces another indefinite suspension. Gordon told Uninterrupted the consequences of his actions “never really set in,” but he also called the experience “humbling.”

“If you fail a drug test, you know, this is over, they’re not going to let you keep playing,” Gordon said. “I never really took it serious. I thought I could keep on doing it and getting away with it and getting away with it.”

ROFL I see what you did there.

Clyde Frog 09-27-2021 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 15859022)
I remember big bill pulling out of your dad after he broke his butthole clean in half and whispering “you’ve got aids” in his ear in the same tone as the aol alert.

Shakespeare ain't got shit on you, Pablo. Absolute poetry.

carcosa 09-27-2021 10:36 PM

Watching his 2018-19 film has me legitimately excited. If he can stick around and take some attention away from Kelce and Hill, we may never punt again.

Also, for everyone concerned about rust: he actually scored touchdowns this year! From his Wikipedia page:

Quote:

On February 27, 2021, Gordon was signed to the Zappers of the Fan Controlled Football league.[71] In his Fan Controlled Football debut, Gordon both opened and closed the game with a touchdown in a 32-26 win for the Zappers.

carcosa 09-27-2021 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 15860098)
In these highlights from just a few years ago (2018, 2019), Gordon looked even better than I remember. This is better stuff than we saw from Watkins in his time with KC: https://youtu.be/dWW3bbBBWnc

I’m cautiously excited. Not gonna suspend him for weed so stay off the PEDs and it’s all about catching TDs.

This vid made me get a boner that I cummed out of

Chiefspants 09-27-2021 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 15860119)
Watching his 2018-19 film has me legitimately excited. If he can stick around and take some attention away from Kelce and Hill, we may never punt again.

Also, for everyone concerned about rust: he actually scored touchdowns this year! From his Wikipedia page:

Those catches in traffic were something else.

Hog's Gone Fishin 09-27-2021 10:52 PM

Well, its about midnight and Josh knows he won't be playing for a couple weeks. I imagine he's on his 3rd blunt about now and slammin those 40's

ClevelandBronco 09-27-2021 11:02 PM

No weed shops. At least he’s got that going for him.

carcosa 09-27-2021 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 15860124)
Those catches in traffic were something else.

I hope he's been jacking off a lot to keep his hands strong!!!

hometeam 09-27-2021 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 15860133)
No weed shops. At least he’s got that going for him.

In Kansas City??

Theres a bunch of weed shops nearby

A Salt Weapon 09-27-2021 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 15859525)
Well I didn't mean it the way it came out so sorry about that. It was wrong of me to make such a general statement. I just meant this guy has a long history of getting and abusing 2nd chances. I have zero confidence in him.

But does he have a history of abusing 5th and 6th chances?

JakeF 09-27-2021 11:45 PM

Sounds like a plan, need another weapon.



Will we finally cut Dieter?

dlphg9 09-27-2021 11:46 PM

Dude just needs his medicinal card. It's easy as **** to get.

Bump 09-27-2021 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 15860140)
Dude just needs his medicinal card. It's easy as **** to get.

does the NFL care if they have a med card?

TimeForWasp 09-28-2021 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 15860135)
I hope he's been jacking off a lot to keep his hands strong!!!

As long as he doesn't drop the balls

TimeForWasp 09-28-2021 01:40 AM

So we have a DE Jonesing for a big hit, and we have a reciever Jonesing for a big hit

KC_Connection 09-28-2021 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 15860119)
Watching his 2018-19 film has me legitimately excited.

I watched plenty of the Patriots in those years and Gordon was a very good WR for those teams. If he has retained anywhere near that kind of skill level two years later, he's more than good enough to make a difference for this team.

UChieffyBugger 09-28-2021 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15859526)
Oh shut up, nobody cares. Good god you're obsessed. You're so desperate for recognition around here. LMAO

Lol keep making dumb statememts so I can keep clowning you please..it's funny ROFL

TEX 09-28-2021 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by A Salt Weapon (Post 15860138)
But does he have a history of abusing 5th and 6th chances?

Absolutely. And more if you include his college days. Actually it starts way before then... My point was, and it's accurate, is thst he has been given a countless number of chances, because of his athletic ability, and has always failed. He's said it himself...Everyone else understood my point. I'll know next time to give you just as many chances, as has been given Gordon, to understand.

BlackOp 09-28-2021 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 15860164)
I watched plenty of the Patriots in those years and Gordon was a very good WR for those teams. If he has retained anywhere near that kind of skill level two years later, he's more than good enough to make a difference for this team.

That's where I'm at...just depends on his level of dedication/determination.

The guy is the only player in NFL history to post back-to-back 200+ yard games.

He had 1600+ yards receiving while only playing 14 games...with Brian Hoyer, Jason Campbell, and Brandon Weeden at QB.

That is generational, Calvin Johnson type shit. It didn't matter which QB was throwing him the ball.

I know that was a long time ago...but he is 27 in football years.

That level of talent isn't something to just brush off...he isnt 34 years old. Kelce is older than he is...just for reference.

I'm not expecting miracles...just saying 60% Gordon is better than any 3rd option the Chiefs have. This guy was posting first ballot HOF numbers before his downward spiral. Hell, 30% would equal the numbers Watkins produced...

I'm pulling for him to resurrect himself in KC...

Sassy Squatch 09-28-2021 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 15860098)
In these highlights from just a few years ago (2018, 2019), Gordon looked even better than I remember. This is better stuff than we saw from Watkins in his time with KC: https://youtu.be/dWW3bbBBWnc

I’m cautiously excited. Not gonna suspend him for weed so stay off the PEDs and it’s all about catching TDs.

Not so sure about the weed thing. Since he's still presumably in the substance abuse program his testing may be a lot stricter than the average NFL player. Sounds like he's not even allowed alcohol either because of his DUI.

YayMike 09-28-2021 04:44 AM

Wow! I stayed away Monday after the Sandy ego choke job, but this could not be better news. Means they realize the offense is in big trouble only with only 87/10. Great news: now trade for a goddamn linebacker to get Neimann off the field and I’ll be happier than my ex wife in shit

loochy 09-28-2021 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15860093)
I will say this, given his age and the concerns, this is the kind of move that could end up impacting 2022 as well. A lot of “if”s have to happen first, but it’s possible.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per Schefter, Josh Gordon had multiple teams contact him about potentially signing. The Chiefs were reportedly attractive because he sees it as a long-term stop. Gordon turned 30 in April.</p>&mdash; Jordan Dajani (@JordanDajani) <a href="https://twitter.com/JordanDajani/status/1442595835271737346?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 27, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Sounds like Gordon is hoping to be here in 2022.

A WR group of Hill, Gordon, Hardman, day 1 or 2 pick, and Powell would be nice.

Hey everyone, it's an STAYLOR sighting!

Cheater5 09-28-2021 06:06 AM

I trust Andy and Veach-- they have earned the benefit of the doubt.

However, if future reflects past-- how have these past-their-prime signings worked out for us recently? Did McCoy, Suggs, or Bell significantly impact the outcome of the last two seasons? Wisniewski was much needed help for sure-- but I am skeptical that a 30 year old Josh Gordon is what we need right now. I am the most casual of fan and watch purely for enjoyment, but this doesn't give me wood.

bigjosh 09-28-2021 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Cheater5 (Post 15860210)
I trust Andy and Veach-- they have earned the benefit of the doubt.

However, if future reflects past-- how have these past-their-prime signings worked out for us recently? Did McCoy, Suggs, or Bell significantly impact the outcome of the last two seasons? Wisniewski was much needed help for sure-- but I am skeptical that a 30 year old Josh Gordon is what we need right now. I am the most casual of fan and watch purely for enjoyment, but this doesn't give me wood.


Suggs absolutely helped.

duncan_idaho 09-28-2021 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cheater5 (Post 15860210)
I trust Andy and Veach-- they have earned the benefit of the doubt.

However, if future reflects past-- how have these past-their-prime signings worked out for us recently? Did McCoy, Suggs, or Bell significantly impact the outcome of the last two seasons? Wisniewski was much needed help for sure-- but I am skeptical that a 30 year old Josh Gordon is what we need right now. I am the most casual of fan and watch purely for enjoyment, but this doesn't give me wood.


Suggs 100 percent did. He was really impactful to that defensive performance down the stretch and in the playoffs.

It’s crazy reading how often he was high/drunk while playing before.

Makes me wonder if - if he’s truly clean - his performance is better athletically than we might expect because he isn’t under the influence.

Sure, he’s 30 and hasn’t played for 2 years. But if he’s actually clean and his body isn’t constantly filled with toxins that it’s fighting, was does that mean for how it performs?

Maybe his peak physical potential isn’t what it was way back when, but maybe he comes closer to realizing his full current potential.

I’m rooting for him. Addiction is a bitch. I hope for his sake, he at least is able to move forward and stay on a good path and keep good support around himself for when challenges do pop up.

And obviously, it helps the Chiefs. So yeah.

Simply Red 09-28-2021 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 15860109)
Here, I bolded the interesting parts for you:

Middle and high school — Gordon told GQ‘s Clay Skipper he first started self-medicating with Xanax, marijuana, and codeine in middle school. He said his initial usage stemmed from social awkwardness, anxiety, feelings of inadequacy, and “adolescent trauma-based fear.” According to Gordon, the drugs helped “numb those nerves so [he could] just function every day.” When he was in seventh grade, Gordon said he took a “whole bar” of Xanax and ended up “nodding off” and “drooling” in class. He said his peers started laughing at him.

“The teacher’s back was turned, and I just kinda raised my hand and asked to go to the restroom real quick,” Gordon told Skipper. “That was my first experience of a high. In 7th grade. And it was to that extent. So I was definitely out of control.”

Gordon told Sports Illustrated‘s Ben Baskin he was expelled from two middle schools for stealing electronics from other students. During that time, his usage also continued. Gordon earned a basketball scholarship at Westbury Christian, a prep school in Houston, but was thrown out in the 10th grade for marijuana. He then attended and graduated from Lamar High, a public school in Houston.

At Lamar, Gordon said he joined a gang, Six Deuce Harvard Park Brim Blood, which involved carrying and shooting a gun — never “maliciously,” he said — stealing cars, fighting, scamming businesses with counterfeit money, and dealing drugs.

Gordon said he sold drugs, mainly marijuana, to “feed” himself. He said he smoked marijuana every day and drank vodka from Minute Maid bottles during class. He said he also started drinking codeine syrup mixed with soda his junior year and experimented with Xanax, hydrocodone, and oxycodone at nearly every opportunity. Before football games, Gordon said he would chug Mad Dog 20-20, flavored fortified wine, to gauge whether he could play drunk.

College (Baylor): Gordon was recruited by several Div. I programs, but chose Baylor because his supervised probation following a felony credit card theft when he was 17 years old prevented him from living outside the state of Texas. Gordon was required to return home to Houston once a month for drug tests and he said he only passed because his diluted samples were never flagged.

As a sophomore, Gordon was arrested mid-season when police found him and teammate Willie Jefferson asleep in a car parked in the drive-thru lane of a Taco Bell at 2 a.m. Officers found multiple bags of marijuana in the car, and both players were charged with misdemeanor marijuana possession, though the charges were dropped. Gordon’s coach at the time, Art Briles, also suspended him. Gordon played in 13 games, recording 42 catches for 714 yards and seven touchdowns that season.

While at Baylor, Gordon said a dealer from home would send him as much as six pounds of weed per week that he would sell in Dallas, Austin, and San Antonio. He estimates he banked over $10,000 per month from dealing.

Gordon told Uninterrupted in October 2017 that a coach at Baylor helped him cheat drug tests. Gordon said the coach instructed him to take “these bottles of detox.”

“I’ve been enabled most of my life honestly,” Gordon said. “I’ve been enabled by coaches, teachers, professors — everybody pretty much gave me a second chance just because of my ability.”

Briles suspended Gordon again before the start of his junior season — this time indefinitely. Briles said the suspension was for an undisclosed rules violation, but Gordon has since revealed in interviews “it was due to a failed marijuana test.”

Despite his suspensions at Baylor, Gordon received transfer offers from schools like UCLA, USC, Oregon, and Utah. He said he would smoke blunts and pop Adderall on the way to a few visits. Gordon left Baylor in 2011.

College (Utah): Gordon transferred to Utah, where he said he tried cocaine for the first time. He told SI he also began taking Adderall daily. After failing another drug test, he returned home to Houston, where he said he began selling marijuana again to support his family. Gordon never took a snap at Utah, instead opting for the NFL’s supplemental draft in 2012.

NFL (Cleveland Browns): Gordon told GQ he had a pregame ritual where he would take bong rips and/or shots of Grand Marnier or whiskey before kick-off.

“I would drink probably like half a glass, or a couple shots to try and warm my system up,” he said. “To get the motor running. That’s what I would do for games.”

Gordon estimated he had something in his system for “probably every game of [his] career,” including those in college. Gordon said he also frequently missed meetings and often showed up late — with bloodshot eyes.

2012: Gordon’s rookie year is the only season he’s played in all 16 games. He logged 50 receptions for 805 yards and five touchdowns.

2013: Prior to the start of the 2013 season, Gordon was suspended two games for violating the NFL’s substance abuse policy. He started Cleveland’s remaining 14 games, hauling in 87 receptions for 1,646 yards and nine touchdowns. In Weeks 12 and 13, Gordon became the first NFL player to record back-to-back 200-yard receiving games. He finished the year as the league leader in receiving yards and earned first-team All-Pro as well as Pro-Bowl honors.

2014: Prior to the start of the 2014 season, Gordon was arrested for a DWI in Raleigh, N.C. According to police, he was pulled over just before 3 a.m. for driving 50 mph in a 35 mph zone. His blood-alcohol level was .09 — .01 over the legal limit. Two months after Gordon’s arrest, the NFL announced he had been suspended the entire 2014 season for a failed drug test (marijuana). The suspension was later reduced to 10 games due to the league’s reformed drug policy.

Gordon played five games in 2014, recording 24 catches for 303 yards. He was suspended by the Browns for the final game of the season for a violation of team rules. Gordon said he had missed the team’s Saturday walkthrough.

“I stayed out late, but the thing is we had to be up in the morning for like a 7:30 a.m. team meeting,” Gordon told Uninterrupted. “I didn’t wake up until 10 o’clock, 10:15, coming out of a blackout. I’m getting a bunch of texts and calls, you know, from coaches, ‘Where you at? We’re headed to the tarmac already.’ I’m like, ‘Ah, s***.'”

2015: Gordon was suspended the entire 2015 season due to another violation (alcohol) of the league’s substance abuse policy. Days after the suspension was reported, Gordon published an open letter in The Cauldron in which he acknowledged his “repeated transgressions.”

“I failed myself when started using marijuana regularly as a young teenager,” he wrote. “I failed myself when I ruined a once-in-a-lifetime chance to be Robert Griffin III’s running mate during his Heisman Trophy-winning season at Baylor. I failed myself when I didn’t check with the league office to ensure that my doctor-prescribed, codeine-based medicine was allowed under NFL guidelines. I failed myself when I was arrested for driving a motor vehicle with a blood-alcohol level over the legal limit. I failed myself when I missed a team walkthrough late in the season and was suspended for the final game of the year.”

2016: Gordon’s initial application for reinstatement was denied by the league in April because he failed another drug test. Gordon was reinstated by the NFL in July, allowing him to participate in training camp, but he remained suspended for four games to start the season. Gordon was expected to play in Week 5, but he elected to enroll in a 30-day intensive rehab program in New Hampshire.

“After careful thought and deep consideration, I’ve decided that I need to step away from pursuing my return to the Browns and my football career to enter an in-patient rehabilitation facility,” Gordon said in a statement. “This is the right decision for me and one that I hope will enable me to gain full control of my life and continue on a path to reach my full potential as a person. I appreciate the support of the NFL, NFLPA, the Browns, my teammates, my agent, and the community through this extremely challenging process.”

Following his completion of the program, Gordon once again had to be reinstated by the league. He did not take a snap during the 2016 season.

Gordon told GQ he stayed sober for six months following his initial 30-day stint in rehab. He then wanted to celebrate “in the way [he knows] how,” which was drugs and alcohol. Gordon said at this point he reached his “rock bottom” and checked back into rehab for over three months.

“I found myself around the city of Gainesville just wandering, looking for a drug dealer,” he told Uninterrupted. “Looking for people on the street corner, whatever smelled like weed, somebody that looked like they had something, asking random people, knocking on like smoke shop storefronts seeing where I could find some stuff at. I was just looking for something, some type of relief.”

According to GQ, Gordon was also informed in 2016 that there was a warrant out for his arrest for failure to comply with a paternity test. He said he wondered, “Who’s this girl? If there is a kid, who is this kid?” Gordon admitted to being his daughter’s father in court.

2017: Gordon’s application for reinstatement was first denied by the NFL in May. He reapplied in the fall and was granted conditional eligibility, with the potential to be active in Week 13. Gordon played in five games in 2017, recording 18 receptions for 335 yards and a touchdown.

2018: Gordon announced he would miss the start of training camp to focus on his recovery. He said his absence was “part of [his] overall health and treatment plan.”

“I am reaching out to you all personally and letting you know that I am not only doing great physically but mentally as well,” Gordon wrote in a statement.

Gordon remains in Stage 3 of the NFL’s substance-abuse program, which means he is subject to random drug testing. If he fails a test, he faces another indefinite suspension. Gordon told Uninterrupted the consequences of his actions “never really set in,” but he also called the experience “humbling.”

“If you fail a drug test, you know, this is over, they’re not going to let you keep playing,” Gordon said. “I never really took it serious. I thought I could keep on doing it and getting away with it and getting away with it.”


Middle and high school — Gordon told GQ‘s Clay Skipper he first started self-medicating with Xanax, marijuana, and codeine in middle school. He said his initial usage stemmed from social awkwardness, anxiety, feelings of inadequacy, and “adolescent trauma-based fear.” According to Gordon, the drugs helped “numb those nerves so [he could] just function every day.” When he was in seventh grade, Gordon said he took a “whole bar” of Xanax and ended up “nodding off” and “drooling” in class. He said his peers started laughing at him.

“The teacher’s back was turned, and I just kinda raised my hand and asked to go to the restroom real quick,” Gordon told Skipper. “That was my first experience of a high. In 7th grade. And it was to that extent. So I was definitely out of control.”

Gordon told Sports Illustrated‘s Ben Baskin he was expelled from two middle schools for stealing electronics from other students. During that time, his usage also continued. Gordon earned a basketball scholarship at Westbury Christian, a prep school in Houston, but was thrown out in the 10th grade for marijuana. He then attended and graduated from Lamar High, a public school in Houston.

At Lamar, Gordon said he joined a gang, Six Deuce Harvard Park Brim Blood, which involved carrying and shooting a gun — never “maliciously,” he said — stealing cars, fighting, scamming businesses with counterfeit money, and dealing drugs.

Gordon said he sold drugs, mainly marijuana, to “feed” himself. He said he smoked marijuana every day and drank vodka from Minute Maid bottles during class. He said he also started drinking codeine syrup mixed with soda his junior year and experimented with Xanax, hydrocodone, and oxycodone at nearly every opportunity. Before football games, Gordon said he would chug Mad Dog 20-20, flavored fortified wine, to gauge whether he could play drunk.

College (Baylor): Gordon was recruited by several Div. I programs, but chose Baylor because his supervised probation following a felony credit card theft when he was 17 years old prevented him from living outside the state of Texas. Gordon was required to return home to Houston once a month for drug tests and he said he only passed because his diluted samples were never flagged.

As a sophomore, Gordon was arrested mid-season when police found him and teammate Willie Jefferson asleep in a car parked in the drive-thru lane of a Taco Bell at 2 a.m. Officers found multiple bags of marijuana in the car, and both players were charged with misdemeanor marijuana possession, though the charges were dropped. Gordon’s coach at the time, Art Briles, also suspended him. Gordon played in 13 games, recording 42 catches for 714 yards and seven touchdowns that season.

While at Baylor, Gordon said a dealer from home would send him as much as six pounds of weed per week that he would sell in Dallas, Austin, and San Antonio. He estimates he banked over $10,000 per month from dealing.

Gordon told Uninterrupted in October 2017 that a coach at Baylor helped him cheat drug tests. Gordon said the coach instructed him to take “these bottles of detox.”

“I’ve been enabled most of my life honestly,” Gordon said. “I’ve been enabled by coaches, teachers, professors — everybody pretty much gave me a second chance just because of my ability.”

Briles suspended Gordon again before the start of his junior season — this time indefinitely. Briles said the suspension was for an undisclosed rules violation, but Gordon has since revealed in interviews “it was due to a failed marijuana test.”

Despite his suspensions at Baylor, Gordon received transfer offers from schools like UCLA, USC, Oregon, and Utah. He said he would smoke blunts and pop Adderall on the way to a few visits. Gordon left Baylor in 2011.

College (Utah): Gordon transferred to Utah, where he said he tried cocaine for the first time. He told SI he also began taking Adderall daily. After failing another drug test, he returned home to Houston, where he said he began selling marijuana again to support his family. Gordon never took a snap at Utah, instead opting for the NFL’s supplemental draft in 2012.

NFL (Cleveland Browns): Gordon told GQ he had a pregame ritual where he would take bong rips and/or shots of Grand Marnier or whiskey before kick-off.

“I would drink probably like half a glass, or a couple shots to try and warm my system up,” he said. “To get the motor running. That’s what I would do for games.”

Gordon estimated he had something in his system for “probably every game of [his] career,” including those in college. Gordon said he also frequently missed meetings and often showed up late — with bloodshot eyes.

2012: Gordon’s rookie year is the only season he’s played in all 16 games. He logged 50 receptions for 805 yards and five touchdowns.

2013: Prior to the start of the 2013 season, Gordon was suspended two games for violating the NFL’s substance abuse policy. He started Cleveland’s remaining 14 games, hauling in 87 receptions for 1,646 yards and nine touchdowns. In Weeks 12 and 13, Gordon became the first NFL player to record back-to-back 200-yard receiving games. He finished the year as the league leader in receiving yards and earned first-team All-Pro as well as Pro-Bowl honors.

2014: Prior to the start of the 2014 season, Gordon was arrested for a DWI in Raleigh, N.C. According to police, he was pulled over just before 3 a.m. for driving 50 mph in a 35 mph zone. His blood-alcohol level was .09 — .01 over the legal limit. Two months after Gordon’s arrest, the NFL announced he had been suspended the entire 2014 season for a failed drug test (marijuana). The suspension was later reduced to 10 games due to the league’s reformed drug policy.

Gordon played five games in 2014, recording 24 catches for 303 yards. He was suspended by the Browns for the final game of the season for a violation of team rules. Gordon said he had missed the team’s Saturday walkthrough.

“I stayed out late, but the thing is we had to be up in the morning for like a 7:30 a.m. team meeting,” Gordon told Uninterrupted. “I didn’t wake up until 10 o’clock, 10:15, coming out of a blackout. I’m getting a bunch of texts and calls, you know, from coaches, ‘Where you at? We’re headed to the tarmac already.’ I’m like, ‘Ah, s***.'”

2015: Gordon was suspended the entire 2015 season due to another violation (alcohol) of the league’s substance abuse policy. Days after the suspension was reported, Gordon published an open letter in The Cauldron in which he acknowledged his “repeated transgressions.”

“I failed myself when started using marijuana regularly as a young teenager,” he wrote. “I failed myself when I ruined a once-in-a-lifetime chance to be Robert Griffin III’s running mate during his Heisman Trophy-winning season at Baylor. I failed myself when I didn’t check with the league office to ensure that my doctor-prescribed, codeine-based medicine was allowed under NFL guidelines. I failed myself when I was arrested for driving a motor vehicle with a blood-alcohol level over the legal limit. I failed myself when I missed a team walkthrough late in the season and was suspended for the final game of the year.”

2016: Gordon’s initial application for reinstatement was denied by the league in April because he failed another drug test. Gordon was reinstated by the NFL in July, allowing him to participate in training camp, but he remained suspended for four games to start the season. Gordon was expected to play in Week 5, but he elected to enroll in a 30-day intensive rehab program in New Hampshire.

“After careful thought and deep consideration, I’ve decided that I need to step away from pursuing my return to the Browns and my football career to enter an in-patient rehabilitation facility,” Gordon said in a statement. “This is the right decision for me and one that I hope will enable me to gain full control of my life and continue on a path to reach my full potential as a person. I appreciate the support of the NFL, NFLPA, the Browns, my teammates, my agent, and the community through this extremely challenging process.”

Following his completion of the program, Gordon once again had to be reinstated by the league. He did not take a snap during the 2016 season.

Gordon told GQ he stayed sober for six months following his initial 30-day stint in rehab. He then wanted to celebrate “in the way [he knows] how,” which was drugs and alcohol. Gordon said at this point he reached his “rock bottom” and checked back into rehab for over three months.

“I found myself around the city of Gainesville just wandering, looking for a drug dealer,” he told Uninterrupted. “Looking for people on the street corner, whatever smelled like weed, somebody that looked like they had something, asking random people, knocking on like smoke shop storefronts seeing where I could find some stuff at. I was just looking for something, some type of relief.”

According to GQ, Gordon was also informed in 2016 that there was a warrant out for his arrest for failure to comply with a paternity test. He said he wondered, “Who’s this girl? If there is a kid, who is this kid?” Gordon admitted to being his daughter’s father in court.

2017: Gordon’s application for reinstatement was first denied by the NFL in May. He reapplied in the fall and was granted conditional eligibility, with the potential to be active in Week 13. Gordon played in five games in 2017, recording 18 receptions for 335 yards and a touchdown.

2018: Gordon announced he would miss the start of training camp to focus on his recovery. He said his absence was “part of [his] overall health and treatment plan.”

“I am reaching out to you all personally and letting you know that I am not only doing great physically but mentally as well,” Gordon wrote in a statement.

Gordon remains in Stage 3 of the NFL’s substance-abuse program, which means he is subject to random drug testing. If he fails a test, he faces another indefinite suspension. Gordon told Uninterrupted the consequences of his actions “never really set in,” but he also called the experience “humbling.”

“If you fail a drug test, you know, this is over, they’re not going to let you keep playing,” Gordon said. “I never really took it serious. I thought I could keep on doing it and getting away with it and getting away with it.”
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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 15860111)
ROFL I see what you did there.

Thanks guys!

oldman 09-28-2021 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 15860031)
This does potentially mean Less Pringle.

But what does it mean to Dieter??

I guess this move is OK if he keeps on the straight and narrow until after the SB. I just don't see this as a long term union. So which of the slugs do you demote/part ways with?

We also have to look at Gay coming back, so who do you bump there?

Mulliganman 09-28-2021 07:12 AM

I don't understand all the negativity on this one. It's a low risk high reward type move. Not much else is out there that the team could bring in and this one won't cost picks that the team needs from the draft.

lawrenceRaider 09-28-2021 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Mulliganman (Post 15860250)
I don't understand all the negativity on this one. It's a low risk high reward type move. Not much else is out there that the team could bring in and this one won't cost picks that the team needs from the draft.

IF Gordon has anything left, this is a good add for KC. Providing he doesn't start blazing away again in a few weeks.

Sofa King 09-28-2021 07:25 AM

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Skyy God 09-28-2021 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Cheater5 (Post 15860210)
I trust Andy and Veach-- they have earned the benefit of the doubt.

However, if future reflects past-- how have these past-their-prime signings worked out for us recently? Did McCoy, Suggs, or Bell significantly impact the outcome of the last two seasons? Wisniewski was much needed help for sure-- but I am skeptical that a 30 year old Josh Gordon is what we need right now. I am the most casual of fan and watch purely for enjoyment, but this doesn't give me wood.

Big Mike, Suggs, and Wiz definitely helped.

Shady and Bell, not so much.

rabblerouser 09-28-2021 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15859458)
Supposedly he has mental health issues which is why the jags soured on him.

When in reality, the Jags just don't care to pay for talent.

rabblerouser 09-28-2021 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 15860253)
IF Gordon has anything left, this is a good add for KC. Providing he doesn't start blazing away again in a few weeks.

I know Raider fans are ****ing stupid, but it wouldn't matter to me if he blazed on the way to the ****ing airport.

ONE MORE TIME FOR THE WHOLE CLASS :

THE NFL DOESN'T TEST FOR WEED ANYMORE.

Titty Meat 09-28-2021 07:55 AM

It was more than just weed with Gordon. I don't care what he does here just hoping he can turn his life around here that would be awesome

lawrenceRaider 09-28-2021 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 15860286)
I know Raider fans are ****ing stupid, but it wouldn't matter to me if he blazed on the way to the ****ing airport.

ONE MORE TIME FOR THE WHOLE CLASS :

THE NFL DOESN'T TEST FOR WEED ANYMORE.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/n...ijuana-policy/

While this is an old article, it appears Josh is/was required to abide by the old rules to be reinstated.

ClevelandBronco 09-28-2021 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 15860136)
In Kansas City??

Theres a bunch of weed shops nearby

Didn’t realize it had become legal there.

He’s ****ed.

tyecopeland 09-28-2021 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 15860109)
Here, I bolded the interesting parts for you:

Middle and high school — Gordon told GQ‘s Clay Skipper he first started self-medicating with Xanax, marijuana, and codeine in middle school. He said his initial usage stemmed from social awkwardness, anxiety, feelings of inadequacy, and “adolescent trauma-based fear.” According to Gordon, the drugs helped “numb those nerves so [he could] just function every day.” When he was in seventh grade, Gordon said he took a “whole bar” of Xanax and ended up “nodding off” and “drooling” in class. He said his peers started laughing at him.

“The teacher’s back was turned, and I just kinda raised my hand and asked to go to the restroom real quick,” Gordon told Skipper. “That was my first experience of a high. In 7th grade. And it was to that extent. So I was definitely out of control.”

Gordon told Sports Illustrated‘s Ben Baskin he was expelled from two middle schools for stealing electronics from other students. During that time, his usage also continued. Gordon earned a basketball scholarship at Westbury Christian, a prep school in Houston, but was thrown out in the 10th grade for marijuana. He then attended and graduated from Lamar High, a public school in Houston.

At Lamar, Gordon said he joined a gang, Six Deuce Harvard Park Brim Blood, which involved carrying and shooting a gun — never “maliciously,” he said — stealing cars, fighting, scamming businesses with counterfeit money, and dealing drugs.

Gordon said he sold drugs, mainly marijuana, to “feed” himself. He said he smoked marijuana every day and drank vodka from Minute Maid bottles during class. He said he also started drinking codeine syrup mixed with soda his junior year and experimented with Xanax, hydrocodone, and oxycodone at nearly every opportunity. Before football games, Gordon said he would chug Mad Dog 20-20, flavored fortified wine, to gauge whether he could play drunk.

College (Baylor): Gordon was recruited by several Div. I programs, but chose Baylor because his supervised probation following a felony credit card theft when he was 17 years old prevented him from living outside the state of Texas. Gordon was required to return home to Houston once a month for drug tests and he said he only passed because his diluted samples were never flagged.

As a sophomore, Gordon was arrested mid-season when police found him and teammate Willie Jefferson asleep in a car parked in the drive-thru lane of a Taco Bell at 2 a.m. Officers found multiple bags of marijuana in the car, and both players were charged with misdemeanor marijuana possession, though the charges were dropped. Gordon’s coach at the time, Art Briles, also suspended him. Gordon played in 13 games, recording 42 catches for 714 yards and seven touchdowns that season.

While at Baylor, Gordon said a dealer from home would send him as much as six pounds of weed per week that he would sell in Dallas, Austin, and San Antonio. He estimates he banked over $10,000 per month from dealing.

Gordon told Uninterrupted in October 2017 that a coach at Baylor helped him cheat drug tests. Gordon said the coach instructed him to take “these bottles of detox.”

“I’ve been enabled most of my life honestly,” Gordon said. “I’ve been enabled by coaches, teachers, professors — everybody pretty much gave me a second chance just because of my ability.”

Briles suspended Gordon again before the start of his junior season — this time indefinitely. Briles said the suspension was for an undisclosed rules violation, but Gordon has since revealed in interviews “it was due to a failed marijuana test.”

Despite his suspensions at Baylor, Gordon received transfer offers from schools like UCLA, USC, Oregon, and Utah. He said he would smoke blunts and pop Adderall on the way to a few visits. Gordon left Baylor in 2011.

College (Utah): Gordon transferred to Utah, where he said he tried cocaine for the first time. He told SI he also began taking Adderall daily. After failing another drug test, he returned home to Houston, where he said he began selling marijuana again to support his family. Gordon never took a snap at Utah, instead opting for the NFL’s supplemental draft in 2012.

NFL (Cleveland Browns): Gordon told GQ he had a pregame ritual where he would take bong rips and/or shots of Grand Marnier or whiskey before kick-off.

“I would drink probably like half a glass, or a couple shots to try and warm my system up,” he said. “To get the motor running. That’s what I would do for games.”

Gordon estimated he had something in his system for “probably every game of [his] career,” including those in college. Gordon said he also frequently missed meetings and often showed up late — with bloodshot eyes.

2012: Gordon’s rookie year is the only season he’s played in all 16 games. He logged 50 receptions for 805 yards and five touchdowns.

2013: Prior to the start of the 2013 season, Gordon was suspended two games for violating the NFL’s substance abuse policy. He started Cleveland’s remaining 14 games, hauling in 87 receptions for 1,646 yards and nine touchdowns. In Weeks 12 and 13, Gordon became the first NFL player to record back-to-back 200-yard receiving games. He finished the year as the league leader in receiving yards and earned first-team All-Pro as well as Pro-Bowl honors.

2014: Prior to the start of the 2014 season, Gordon was arrested for a DWI in Raleigh, N.C. According to police, he was pulled over just before 3 a.m. for driving 50 mph in a 35 mph zone. His blood-alcohol level was .09 — .01 over the legal limit. Two months after Gordon’s arrest, the NFL announced he had been suspended the entire 2014 season for a failed drug test (marijuana). The suspension was later reduced to 10 games due to the league’s reformed drug policy.

Gordon played five games in 2014, recording 24 catches for 303 yards. He was suspended by the Browns for the final game of the season for a violation of team rules. Gordon said he had missed the team’s Saturday walkthrough.

“I stayed out late, but the thing is we had to be up in the morning for like a 7:30 a.m. team meeting,” Gordon told Uninterrupted. “I didn’t wake up until 10 o’clock, 10:15, coming out of a blackout. I’m getting a bunch of texts and calls, you know, from coaches, ‘Where you at? We’re headed to the tarmac already.’ I’m like, ‘Ah, s***.'”

2015: Gordon was suspended the entire 2015 season due to another violation (alcohol) of the league’s substance abuse policy. Days after the suspension was reported, Gordon published an open letter in The Cauldron in which he acknowledged his “repeated transgressions.”

“I failed myself when started using marijuana regularly as a young teenager,” he wrote. “I failed myself when I ruined a once-in-a-lifetime chance to be Robert Griffin III’s running mate during his Heisman Trophy-winning season at Baylor. I failed myself when I didn’t check with the league office to ensure that my doctor-prescribed, codeine-based medicine was allowed under NFL guidelines. I failed myself when I was arrested for driving a motor vehicle with a blood-alcohol level over the legal limit. I failed myself when I missed a team walkthrough late in the season and was suspended for the final game of the year.”

2016: Gordon’s initial application for reinstatement was denied by the league in April because he failed another drug test. Gordon was reinstated by the NFL in July, allowing him to participate in training camp, but he remained suspended for four games to start the season. Gordon was expected to play in Week 5, but he elected to enroll in a 30-day intensive rehab program in New Hampshire.

“After careful thought and deep consideration, I’ve decided that I need to step away from pursuing my return to the Browns and my football career to enter an in-patient rehabilitation facility,” Gordon said in a statement. “This is the right decision for me and one that I hope will enable me to gain full control of my life and continue on a path to reach my full potential as a person. I appreciate the support of the NFL, NFLPA, the Browns, my teammates, my agent, and the community through this extremely challenging process.”

Following his completion of the program, Gordon once again had to be reinstated by the league. He did not take a snap during the 2016 season.

Gordon told GQ he stayed sober for six months following his initial 30-day stint in rehab. He then wanted to celebrate “in the way [he knows] how,” which was drugs and alcohol. Gordon said at this point he reached his “rock bottom” and checked back into rehab for over three months.

“I found myself around the city of Gainesville just wandering, looking for a drug dealer,” he told Uninterrupted. “Looking for people on the street corner, whatever smelled like weed, somebody that looked like they had something, asking random people, knocking on like smoke shop storefronts seeing where I could find some stuff at. I was just looking for something, some type of relief.”

According to GQ, Gordon was also informed in 2016 that there was a warrant out for his arrest for failure to comply with a paternity test. He said he wondered, “Who’s this girl? If there is a kid, who is this kid?” Gordon admitted to being his daughter’s father in court.

2017: Gordon’s application for reinstatement was first denied by the NFL in May. He reapplied in the fall and was granted conditional eligibility, with the potential to be active in Week 13. Gordon played in five games in 2017, recording 18 receptions for 335 yards and a touchdown.

2018: Gordon announced he would miss the start of training camp to focus on his recovery. He said his absence was “part of [his] overall health and treatment plan.”

“I am reaching out to you all personally and letting you know that I am not only doing great physically but mentally as well,” Gordon wrote in a statement.

Gordon remains in Stage 3 of the NFL’s substance-abuse program, which means he is subject to random drug testing. If he fails a test, he faces another indefinite suspension. Gordon told Uninterrupted the consequences of his actions “never really set in,” but he also called the experience “humbling.”

“If you fail a drug test, you know, this is over, they’re not going to let you keep playing,” Gordon said. “I never really took it serious. I thought I could keep on doing it and getting away with it and getting away with it.”

I un-bolded, de-bolded?, all the really important parts because I think it's easier to read them that way.

Monticore 09-28-2021 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 15860286)
I know Raider fans are ****ing stupid, but it wouldn't matter to me if he blazed on the way to the ****ing airport.

ONE MORE TIME FOR THE WHOLE CLASS :

THE NFL DOESN'T TEST FOR WEED ANYMORE.

I am no expert but not sure it's known for its performance enhancing properties.

tredadda 09-28-2021 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by oldman (Post 15860240)
But what does it mean to Dieter??

I guess this move is OK if he keeps on the straight and narrow until after the SB. I just don't see this as a long term union. So which of the slugs do you demote/part ways with?

We also have to look at Gay coming back, so who do you bump there?

Probably nothing. He has friends in high places. No other reason why that guy continues to collect paychecks from this team.

BigRedChief 09-28-2021 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Monticore (Post 15860342)
I am no expert but not sure it's known for its performance enhancing properties.

Still cost the Olympic snowboarded his gold medal. Total BS. Probably burned one the night before. There is no way on the first of the earth that being high on weed is going to make your athletic performance better.

I'd say it helps you deal with the aches and pains of the season but if your using it before the game, you're an idiot.

tredadda 09-28-2021 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Mulliganman (Post 15860250)
I don't understand all the negativity on this one. It's a low risk high reward type move. Not much else is out there that the team could bring in and this one won't cost picks that the team needs from the draft.

You must be new to CP after a loss. While some are level headed there are exceptions and you see that when they highlight how this is a desperation move. You are correct, this is a low to no risk move. They lose absolutely nothing in this at all and it's a move that they needed to make.

ClevelandBronco 09-28-2021 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Monticore (Post 15860342)
I am no expert but not sure it's known for its performance enhancing properties.

It’s widely known to enhance Phish performances.

jettio 09-28-2021 08:21 AM

I wonder how much Josh Gordon ever did his strength and conditioning work.

That would be interesting to know. 30 years old is not too old if he has been doing quality strength and conditioning work.

I wonder what the plan is as far as living arrangements and if he will have personal assistants with him all the time.

He might be better off if they make an apartment for him at Arrowhead or something.

ClevelandBronco 09-28-2021 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by jettio (Post 15860357)
…I wonder what the plan is as far as living arrangements and if he will have personal assistants with him all the time.

He might be better off if they make an apartment for him at Arrowhead or something.

Britt Reid could use a gig.

rabblerouser 09-28-2021 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 15860355)
It’s widely known to enhance Phish performances.

You'll need more than weed for that.

Frazod 09-28-2021 08:32 AM

I am reminded of the immortal words of the general from War Games - "I'd piss on a spark plug if I thought it would do any good."

Clearly we need to add some talent. Hope he works out.

rabblerouser 09-28-2021 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 15860326)
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/n...ijuana-policy/

While this is an old article, it appears Josh is/was required to abide by the old rules to be reinstated.

They can't expect him to abide by that if weed is legal here.

That's plain ridiculous.

Monticore 09-28-2021 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 15860350)
Still cost the Olympic snowboarded his gold medal. Total BS. Probably burned one the night before. There is no way on the first of the earth that being high on weed is going to make your athletic performance better.

I'd say it helps you deal with the aches and pains of the season but if your using it before the game, you're an idiot.

Might help with anxiety maybe help you find the "zone" but enhanced speed, reflexes , motor it does not.

tredadda 09-28-2021 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 15860365)
I am reminded of the immortal words of the general from War Games - "I'd piss on a spark plug if I thought it would do any good."

Clearly we need to add some talent. Hope he works out.

Never hurts to add more talent, but he won't fix what ails this team. KC should and would be 3-0 if they stopped turning the ball over at a prolific rate and at the wrong times. They fix that and they can overcome some of the other issues, but having a healthy Gordon does make this team more lethal on offense.

ClevelandBronco 09-28-2021 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 15860366)
They can't expect him to abide by that if weed is legal here.

That's plain ridiculous.

Dude. No one expects him to abide by it. Still, he will be held to it.

Simply Red 09-28-2021 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 15860370)
Never hurts to add more talent, but he won't fix what ails this team. KC should and would be 3-0 if they stopped turning the ball over at a prolific rate and at the wrong times. They fix that and they can overcome some of the other issues, but having a healthy Gordon does make this team more lethal on offense.

well sorry to break it to you - but not only do you not know - nobody knows exactly how this addition will impact KC's offense. Let it play out...

duncan_idaho 09-28-2021 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 15860370)
Never hurts to add more talent, but he won't fix what ails this team. KC should and would be 3-0 if they stopped turning the ball over at a prolific rate and at the wrong times. They fix that and they can overcome some of the other issues, but having a healthy Gordon does make this team more lethal on offense.

He's not a panacea that fixes all issues on the team, but if he's a solution to one of them (difficulty beating tight man press coverage), that's one fewer to worry about.

Having a large, physical receiver with some speed who can catch the ball in tight windows and wall guys off on slants and digs can only help.

Hopefully he has some things left in the tank and gives them another option when teams are pressing up.

Coochie liquor 09-28-2021 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 15860098)
In these highlights from just a few years ago (2018, 2019), Gordon looked even better than I remember. This is better stuff than we saw from Watkins in his time with KC: https://youtu.be/dWW3bbBBWnc

I’m cautiously excited. Not gonna suspend him for weed so stay off the PEDs and it’s all about catching TDs.

Jesus the protection and pocket at 1:00 is ridiculous. Would love to see Patrick get that kind of pass pro.

Monticore 09-28-2021 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 15860380)
He's not a panacea that fixes all issues on the team, but if he's a solution to one of them (difficulty beating tight man press coverage), that's one fewer to worry about.

Having a large, physical receiver with some speed who can catch the ball in tight windows and wall guys off on slants and digs can only help.

Hopefully he has some things left in the tank and gives them another option when teams are pressing up.

Would be nice to not have to rely on gimmicks in the red zone, I love a shovel pass to a o- linemen as much as the next guy but sometimes I rather go traditional.

lcarus 09-28-2021 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Monticore (Post 15860399)
Would be nice to not have to rely on gimmicks in the red zone, I love a shovel pass to a o- linemen as much as the next guy but sometimes I rather go traditional.

I love a shovel pass to Remmers. Awesome play and I'd like to see more plays like it. When we're up 35-10 with 5 minutes left in the 4th quarter...

Coochie liquor 09-28-2021 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Monticore (Post 15860399)
Would be nice to not have to rely on gimmicks in the red zone, I love a shovel pass to a o- linemen as much as the next guy but sometimes I rather go traditional.

I’d love to see some of those 4 TE sets in the red zone.

MIAdragon 09-28-2021 09:23 AM

Who long until he sees the field? Can he be ready this week?

tredadda 09-28-2021 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 15860380)
He's not a panacea that fixes all issues on the team, but if he's a solution to one of them (difficulty beating tight man press coverage), that's one fewer to worry about.

Having a large, physical receiver with some speed who can catch the ball in tight windows and wall guys off on slants and digs can only help.

Hopefully he has some things left in the tank and gives them another option when teams are pressing up.

Agreed. Having him can't hurt. It won't fix our biggest issues, but any additional talent is a plus. Again, we are far closer to 3-0 than many people think. We haven't been blown out at all this year. Since the 4th QTR of the Ravens game we have 5-6 turnovers (can't remember which quarter in the Ravens game Mahomes threw the INT). Hard to won like that, and even in spite of it we still could have won both those games.

Bringing in Gordon is a Veach move and I fully believe he would have done it even if we were 3-0. We did it with Bell last year even when we finished with the best record in the NFL.

FlaChief58 09-28-2021 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 15860414)
Who long until he sees the field? Can he be ready this week?

I read somewhere that it'll likely be 2 weeks before he sees the field

rabblerouser 09-28-2021 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jettio (Post 15860357)
I wonder how much Josh Gordon ever did his strength and conditioning work.

That would be interesting to know. 30 years old is not too old if he has been doing quality strength and conditioning work.

I wonder what the plan is as far as living arrangements and if he will have personal assistants with him all the time.

He might be better off if they make an apartment for him at Arrowhead or something.

He won't have much early on in the way of stats.

First game probably go 4 for 20 or something.

Bearcat 09-28-2021 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 15860414)
Who long until he sees the field? Can he be ready this week?

The prediction I've seen is ready for WFT.

penguinz 09-28-2021 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 15860469)
The prediction I've seen is ready for WFT.

No reason he cannot be in for a small set of packages against the Bills. Even if he just runs slants everytime.

rabblerouser 09-28-2021 09:56 AM

https://gfycat.com/aggressivelonegrayreefshark
https://gfycat.com/aggressivelonegrayreefshark
Josh Gordon arriving at Arrowhead for his first practice.

rabblerouser 09-28-2021 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 15860472)
No reason he cannot be in for a small set of packages against the Bills. Even if he just runs slants everytime.

Good thing we have professional football coaches who will make that determination instead of you.

TribalElder 09-28-2021 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 15860476)
Josh Gordon arriving at Arrowhead for his first practice.

https://media.giphy.com/media/TJ56BH...large.gif&ct=g

rabblerouser 09-28-2021 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 15860485)

Thank you, on my phone. But Gordon has ARRIVED.

SAGA45 09-28-2021 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Cheater5 (Post 15860210)
I trust Andy and Veach-- they have earned the benefit of the doubt.

However, if future reflects past-- how have these past-their-prime signings worked out for us recently? Did McCoy, Suggs, or Bell significantly impact the outcome of the last two seasons? Wisniewski was much needed help for sure-- but I am skeptical that a 30 year old Josh Gordon is what we need right now. I am the most casual of fan and watch purely for enjoyment, but this doesn't give me wood.

Suggs helped, without question. McCoy and Bell came into a situation at RB that is debatably different from what Gordon is entering with the Chiefs WR situation.

The Chiefs have a self-proclaimed "WR2 by committee" right now. That's not gonna cut it, especially when it appears teams have solved Tyreek and it's become apparent the offense is going to need 40+ points per game if February is the goal. If you have a guy like Gordon sitting there who can be had for cheap and possibly seize full control of that WR2 spot, then you have to take that chance. Period.

rabblerouser 09-28-2021 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 15860359)
Britt Reid could use a gig.

****a gone be hitting rehab first. Again.

Guaran-teed.

rabblerouser 09-28-2021 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SAGA45 (Post 15860492)
Suggs helped, without question. McCoy and Bell came into a situation at RB that is debatably different from what Gordon is entering with the Chiefs WR situation.

The Chiefs have a self-proclaimed "WR2 by committee" right now. That's not gonna cut it, especially when it appears teams have solved Tyreek and it's become apparent the offense is going to need 40+ points per game if February is the goal. If you have a guy like Gordon sitting there who can be had for cheap and possibly seize full control of that WR2 spot, then you have to take that chance. Period.

I don't know why this is so hard for folks to understand...

rabblerouser 09-28-2021 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 15860414)
Who long until he sees the field? Can he be ready this week?

Like I said, he could be ready but I wouldn't expect much in the way of stats.

Maybe 4 catches for 20 yards or something...

penguinz 09-28-2021 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 15860500)
Like I said, he could be ready but I wouldn't expect much in the way of stats.

Maybe 4 catches for 20 yards or something...

Good thing we have professional football coaches who will make that determination instead of you.

Dante84 09-28-2021 10:28 AM

My thoughts after processing for a day:

- I love it. It's another ZRM (Zero Risk Move) by Veach.

- This offense, as dynamic as it already is, has a gaping hole at the X position, and Veach, Reid, and everyone else important knows this. It is why we went after WR's in FA.

- It's a champagne problem that only the best offense in the league has, but having a large, sure-handed WR is critical for us countering defenses in 3 ways:

1- It helps us counter the over-top coverage everyone has playing as of late, since PM will have to be focusing on what's available in front of the safeties. This is why Kelce has been such a great counter to Tyreek. Which leads me to point 2.

2- Because the high/low of Tyreek/Kelce has been so effing good, defenses are doubling Kelce and Tyreek and forcing us to go elsewhere, including to the run game (point 3). The counter for going elsewhere deep is that we have Mecole's speed. The counter for going elsewhere underneath isn't on the roster.... there's no one big enough, fast enough and sure-handed enough to rely on. Sammy was nice, but never available. Pringle, DRop & Kemp ain't it. Bell (too slow), Jody & Gray (too green) ain't it.

3 - Taking the ball out of PM's hands, and putting it in any one else's, is a win for the defense. Even if CEH was a top 3 RB, they're still taking it away from Pat (greatest ever to do it), so it's a win. CEH clearly isn't a top 3 RB, and has fumbled twice now, justifying what the defenses are doing. Having that last hole of a #2 underneath target (who, by the way, can also **** you up deep) filled is so huge for this offense.

In summary:
This offseason, we acted like the O-Line was the final piece Patrick needed to go HAM and break all the records. While it may have been the biggest piece (since it's a five-headed monster) that buys Patrick more time, it wasn't the final piece. The final piece is a large-bodied, sure-handed, fast target.

Is Gordon it? I hope so, but probably not given his history. Can he give us ~16 games until we can draft one or get one in FA next year?

If so, it's time to stunt on these hoes.

ROYC75 09-28-2021 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 15860098)
In these highlights from just a few years ago (2018, 2019), Gordon looked even better than I remember. This is better stuff than we saw from Watkins in his time with KC: https://youtu.be/dWW3bbBBWnc

I’m cautiously excited. Not gonna suspend him for weed so stay off the PEDs and it’s all about catching TDs.

"If" he can get open and catch the ball like this, it will greatly benefit this offense . The kid had hands, separation at the LOS and speed in his prime. I will settle for 2 of those 3, hands and separations!

Getting somebody to go with Kelce to get open off the LOS is hugh in getting a quicker read/react release for Pat and keeping Pat upright from the pass rush!

King_Chief_Fan 09-28-2021 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 15860534)
"If" he can get open and catch the ball like this, it will greatly benefit this offense . The kid had hands, separation at the LOS and speed in his prime. I will settle for 2 of those 3, hands and separations!

yup

my concern from a career perspective he is 50% when targeted. However I don't know if that stat factors in bad throws


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