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saphojunkie 05-19-2022 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16300450)
Skyy Moore vs Trent McDuffie will be a REALLY fun demonstration of skill on skill.

Karlaftis vs Kinnard will be as well.

Can these guys fight each other to a draw when their respective strengths offset and respective weaknesses aren’t highlighted?

I'm assuming Kinnard starts at RT, as well. Niang just is never gonna get there.

carcosa 05-25-2022 05:04 PM

UDFA -> OROY IMHO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Craziest part about this was dude acted like this was normal after he caught it…<a href="https://twitter.com/_jross8?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@_jross8</a> <a href="https://t.co/KuJ4a8DEPu">https://t.co/KuJ4a8DEPu</a></p>&mdash; Patrick Mahomes II (@PatrickMahomes) <a href="https://twitter.com/PatrickMahomes/status/1529597463572664323?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 25, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 05-25-2022 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 16308151)
UDFA -> OROY IMHO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Craziest part about this was dude acted like this was normal after he caught it…<a href="https://twitter.com/_jross8?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@_jross8</a> <a href="https://t.co/KuJ4a8DEPu">https://t.co/KuJ4a8DEPu</a></p>&mdash; Patrick Mahomes II (@PatrickMahomes) <a href="https://twitter.com/PatrickMahomes/status/1529597463572664323?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 25, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Tried telling all of you… he’s gonna be better than Randy Moss

staylor26 05-25-2022 05:09 PM

God damn that is sexy

Coochie liquor 05-25-2022 05:10 PM

If he can stay healthy, he’s our Moss.

TLO 05-25-2022 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 16308162)
If he can stay healthy, he’s our Moss.

LMAO

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 05-25-2022 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 16308162)
If he can stay healthy, he’s our Moss.

You just became one of my fav posters here!!

Pitt Gorilla 05-25-2022 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 16308151)
UDFA -> OROY IMHO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Craziest part about this was dude acted like this was normal after he caught it…<a href="https://twitter.com/_jross8?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@_jross8</a> <a href="https://t.co/KuJ4a8DEPu">https://t.co/KuJ4a8DEPu</a></p>&mdash; Patrick Mahomes II (@PatrickMahomes) <a href="https://twitter.com/PatrickMahomes/status/1529597463572664323?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 25, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Damn, son.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 05-25-2022 05:12 PM

If the best QB in the league is shouting you out I’m pretty sure he just made the team…. Goodbye Dieter, Mahomes has a new favorite toy now

Coochie liquor 05-25-2022 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 16308164)
You just became one of my fav posters here!!


Quote:

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 16308163)
LMAO


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MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 05-25-2022 05:14 PM

Even PFF is retweeting it!!!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Justyn Ross with the one-handed snag ��<br><br>(�� <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a>) <br> <a href="https://t.co/CjDaALCeWS">pic.twitter.com/CjDaALCeWS</a></p>&mdash; PFF (@PFF) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1529598871927676928?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 25, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 05-25-2022 05:15 PM

You can add bleacher report now

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This one-handed grab 😳 <a href="https://twitter.com/_jross8?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@_jross8</a><br><br>(via <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a>) <a href="https://t.co/Td6CXEvnCz">pic.twitter.com/Td6CXEvnCz</a></p>&mdash; B/R Gridiron (@brgridiron) <a href="https://twitter.com/brgridiron/status/1529601523118141441?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 25, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Pasta Little Brioni 05-25-2022 05:32 PM

Who gives a **** who retweets it

Hoover 05-25-2022 05:34 PM

I'll laugh my ass off if the Chiefs hit on Moore and Ross and don't really have a WR issues after moving on from Hill. I mean could you imagine?

ToxSocks 05-25-2022 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 16308191)
I'll laugh my ass off if the Chiefs hit on Moore and Ross and don't really have a WR issues after moving on from Hill. I mean could you imagine?

If Ross ends up being that large catch radius perimeter WR i've been going on and on about for the past two seasons, then i'll pretty much just STFU about anything draft related for the rest of Veach's tenure. Egg-on-face. Gladly.

Coochie liquor 05-25-2022 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16308194)
If Ross ends up being that large catch radius perimeter WR i've been going on and on about for the past two seasons, then i'll pretty much just STFU about anything draft related for the rest of Veach's tenure. Egg-on-face. Gladly.

Even if we had to stash him this year and let him learn the playbook, it could be a big win for us in the upcoming seasons. I’ve got my homer glasses on, but I’m excited about this kid.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 05-25-2022 05:45 PM

Greatest tight end of all time even has something to say!!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I felt like I was the only one that got hype when I saw it live!! WE NEED MORE JUICE!! <a href="https://twitter.com/_jross8?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@_jross8</a> 😂😂 <a href="https://t.co/1yq1I4tRpH">https://t.co/1yq1I4tRpH</a></p>&mdash; Travis Kelce (@tkelce) <a href="https://twitter.com/tkelce/status/1529606550045827073?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 25, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

saphojunkie 05-25-2022 05:53 PM

I've been hurt before, so I'm cautious here. But holy shit this might actually work out. If it does... dear lord. Landing elite playmakers for free changes a franchise.

Iconic 05-25-2022 06:51 PM

when's the last time the two guys with the biggest sway at arrowhead drive publicly started fawning over some shit a kid did in practice like this...

yeah i think ross is setting himself up pretty ****ing well.

smithandrew051 05-25-2022 06:54 PM

Not trying to overreact, but where can I find someone to roleplay sex as Justyn Ross with me? My wife is being all weird and refusing to pretend to be him.

Halfcan 05-25-2022 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 16308196)
Even if we had to stash him this year and let him learn the playbook, it could be a big win for us in the upcoming seasons. I’ve got my homer glasses on, but I’m excited about this kid.

They won't be able to "stash" this kid. He is fully healthy and looks great. Would have been a top 20 pick if not for some bad luck.

Sky Moore is tearing it up as well. I think the Chief's offense is going to be a handful this year.

BTW- looks like Karlaftas is practically ripping the tackling dummies to shreds. This guy is a beast.

BossChief 05-25-2022 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 16308196)
Even if we had to stash him this year and let him learn the playbook, it could be a big win for us in the upcoming seasons. I’ve got my homer glasses on, but I’m excited about this kid.

They aren’t going to stash anyone. The competition will push everyone of them to be better.

Andy Reid praised Justyn after rookie minicamp for picking things up really quick.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 05-25-2022 07:17 PM

Everyone can join the Justyn “better than Randy moss” train right now! It will be open till the season starts. Once the season starts anyone who hasn’t joined can politely **** off

Bowser 05-25-2022 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 16308162)
If he can stay healthy, he’s our Moss.

https://youtu.be/4eWZ63DjHxA?t=40

JohnnyHammersticks 05-25-2022 07:23 PM

This thread is starting to give me some serious wood :Pimp:

He looks like a cross between Randy Moss and Calvin Johnson

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 05-25-2022 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks (Post 16308390)
This thread is starting to give me some serious wood :Pimp:

He looks like a cross between Randy Moss and Calvin Johnson

Seriously you come here and spew that disrespect…… Ross is better than Moss and Megatron.

JohnnyHammersticks 05-25-2022 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 16308401)
Seriously you come here and spew that disrespect…… Ross is better than Moss and Megatron.

A cross between Megatron and Moss which is then genetically spliced with Jerry Rice's DNA.

smithandrew051 05-25-2022 07:47 PM

We are starting to see some people saying Justyn Ross is/will be better than Tyreek Hill. I think it’s ridiculous, but there are people that feel that way. I was wondering if anyone here would choose Ross over Hill. So the choice is simple: who would you rather have as your wide receiver for the next 12 years? Justyn Ross or Tyreek Hill?

tredadda 05-25-2022 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 16308162)
If he can stay healthy, he’s our Moss.

Santana Moss? This kid is looking good, not sure I would put him in the same category as arguably the most gifted WR I have ever seen just yet.

Skyy God 05-25-2022 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16308429)
We are starting to see some people saying Justyn Ross is/will be better than Tyreek Hill. I think it’s ridiculous, but there are people that feel that way. I was wondering if anyone here would choose Ross over Hill. So the choice is simple: who would you rather have as your wide receiver for the next 12 years? Justyn Ross or Tyreek Hill?

Quality DeBerg parody.

Halfcan 05-25-2022 08:18 PM

Ross catches better with 1 hand than Gordon does with both.

Gordon is not making this team. Ross should easily replace his 5 catches, and 32 yards with 1 gimmie TD from the 1-yard line.

Tribal Warfare 05-25-2022 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 16308162)
If he can stay healthy, he’s our Moss.

Ross' ceiling is AJ Green which is great too

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 05-25-2022 08:34 PM

National media now on the hype train….

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The way Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelce are hyping up Justyn Ross is something I can’t ignore. It’s something.</p>&mdash; Mark Gunnels (@MarkAGunnels) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkAGunnels/status/1529611994520702976?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 25, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Chris Meck 05-25-2022 08:38 PM

The kid's injury history is truly terrifying.

BUT...

good lord, can you imagine? Can you imagine IF he were to be past the injury issues, and we snatched a legit #1 in UDFA along with Moore?

I mean, it's May. It's time for dreaming.

Chiefaholic 05-25-2022 08:39 PM

1. Ju-Ju
2. Moore
3. Hardman
4. Scantling
5. Ross
6. Powell / Fountain

1. Kelce
2. Bell
3. Gray, Fortson

TOUGH competition this season

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 05-25-2022 08:42 PM

Ross knew what he was doing when he signed here. He knew there would be opportunities and the playing with the best QB in the game. Ross will be a Chief for life and go down into the HOF when it’s all said and done. Ross is literally Randy Moss but better. Ross “The Boss” will make you cum just watching him

Bowser 05-25-2022 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 16308526)
National media now on the hype train….

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The way Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelce are hyping up Justyn Ross is something I can’t ignore. It’s something.</p>&mdash; Mark Gunnels (@MarkAGunnels) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkAGunnels/status/1529611994520702976?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 25, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I'll tell you what it is, Mark -

It's May 25th, and we are long ways away from regular season football.

Halfcan 05-25-2022 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16308543)
The kid's injury history is truly terrifying.

BUT...

good lord, can you imagine? Can you imagine IF he were to be past the injury issues, and we snatched a legit #1 in UDFA along with Moore?

I mean, it's May. It's time for dreaming.

The Chiefs think he is fine and Ross says he feels great. Veech did his due diligence. Steal of the draft.

George is the steal of the draft imo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2L-acKYR19M

smithandrew051 05-25-2022 09:10 PM

Sean McGrath setting the haters straight:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is an incredible catch. You have no idea what you’re talking about Green D.</p>&mdash; Sean P. McGrath (@Spmcgrath123) <a href="https://twitter.com/Spmcgrath123/status/1529624016205520899?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 26, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Tribal Warfare 05-25-2022 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 16308600)
The Chiefs think he is fine and Ross says he feels great. Veech did his due diligence. Steal of the draft.

George is the steal of the draft imo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2L-acKYR19M


If the Chiefs' plan is transition Karlaftis AKA "Yogurt" to DT then he could he could be very good but as a DE he's average.

Halfcan 05-25-2022 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 16308613)
If the Chiefs' plan is transition Karlaftis AKA "Yogurt" to DT then he could he could be very good but as a DE he's average.

I don't see how you can watch those highlights and not think he is going to be a beast. He is getting held, double and triple teamed and still disrupting the play.

I guess we will see. Reminds me of how Jared Allen threw guys around when he used his bull rush move.

RealSNR 05-25-2022 09:59 PM

I'm always the sourpuss when it comes to impressive UDFA WRs in training camp and preseason.

**** it. **** it, I say. I don't want to be that guy with Ross. I want to be there for the start of something special.

I believe in Justyn Ross!

Tribal Warfare 05-25-2022 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 16308665)
I don't see how you can watch those highlights and not think he is going to be a beast. He is getting held, double and triple teamed and still disrupting the play.

I guess we will see. Reminds me of how Jared Allen threw guys around when he used his bull rush move.

Doesn't have the flexibility around the edge, He's great bullrusher for someone his size but Karlaftis isn't 290+ pounds like JJ Watt or Reggie White to be consistent force.

UChieffyBugger 05-25-2022 10:17 PM

When was the last time Travis hyped up a player? The one I have a clear memory of was when he was talking about Pat before Smith was traded. Also Pat rarely ever goes out of his way to praise guys eithout being prompted by reporters either.

The bottom line is Ross's physical profile and college stats were all first round grades without a question.. So if he is fully healthy now him making an impact is not gonna be a surprise at all. The fact that the Chiefs media team have been posting his clips since the first day he arrived, and now senior guys are raving about him aswell, tells me something good is happening behind closed doors when it comes to Ross's future with his team...hopefully he will keep grinding hard and continue to impress. I think he could be a huge fan favorite if he progresses up the ladder.

smithandrew051 05-25-2022 10:20 PM

Ross reminds me of Jerry Rice but with Tyreek hill speed and Megtron size, but better.

RaidersOftheCellar 05-25-2022 10:29 PM

So was he consistently making plays or just the one highlight?

Tribal Warfare 05-25-2022 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 16308764)
So was he consistently making plays or just the one highlight?

At Rookie camp, another highlight was when Ross won a 50-50 against Mcduffie which drew praise

BossChief 05-25-2022 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 16308738)
Doesn't have the flexibility around the edge, He's great bullrusher for someone his size but Karlaftis isn't 290+ pounds like JJ Watt or Reggie White to be consistent force.

He will fill out to that size with our weight program.

Give him 2-3 years, but he will get there.

KChiefs1 05-25-2022 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 16308526)
National media now on the hype train….

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The way Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelce are hyping up Justyn Ross is something I can’t ignore. It’s something.</p>— Mark Gunnels (@MarkAGunnels) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkAGunnels/status/1529611994520702976?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 25, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Sweet one handed grab.


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Rainbarrel 05-26-2022 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 16308151)
UDFA -> OROY IMHO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Craziest part about this was dude acted like this was normal after he caught it…<a href="https://twitter.com/_jross8?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@_jross8</a> <a href="https://t.co/KuJ4a8DEPu">https://t.co/KuJ4a8DEPu</a></p>&mdash; Patrick Mahomes II (@PatrickMahomes) <a href="https://twitter.com/PatrickMahomes/status/1529597463572664323?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 25, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

They're putting him through injury drills.

MVChiefFan 05-26-2022 06:00 AM

I’m so freaking excited about this season! I mean, I’m always excited for Chiefs football, but this year I’m ****ing STOKED!!!

Jewish Rabbi 05-26-2022 06:52 AM

This dude reminds me of Wayne Gretzky but in football and also 10x more dominant

KCUnited 05-26-2022 07:29 AM

If Randy Moss and the Hamburger Helper Glove had a baby..

O.city 05-26-2022 07:31 AM

So what's his actual path to playing time this year? I mean, he's gonna have to beat out the lower level guys for sure, but to get legit targets we're looking at getting up there with Hardman and Scantling. I'm not sure I see that.

wazu 05-26-2022 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16309032)
So what's his actual path to playing time this year? I mean, he's gonna have to beat out the lower level guys for sure, but to get legit targets we're looking at getting up there with Hardman and Scantling. I'm not sure I see that.

So he's gotta beat out two guys who have been around for awhile with all-world QBs and never come close to having a 1,000 yard season. Doesn't seem like too big of a mountain to climb if he is a good player.

O.city 05-26-2022 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 16309039)
So he's gotta beat out two guys who have been around for awhile with all-world QBs and never come close to having a 1,000 yard season. Doesn't seem like too big of a mountain to climb if he is a good player.

Not just beat them out though, he's gotta be that much better than them to get a chance as an UDFA. I mean, he's gonna have to have an unreal camp to get into the top 4 options.

I'd imagine a more likely scenario is one of those late camp "injuries".

KentuckyChief 05-26-2022 08:10 AM

He’s gonna have to show the foot is fine and, yea, have a good camp but I believe he’s in the right place to develop into legit NFL WR. His potential won’t be lost on this front office.

Chris Meck 05-26-2022 08:12 AM

Well injuries always happen. Also, just simply rotating guys like they always do. Plus some specific packages. He's not gonna get a ton of targets as a rookie, more than likely barring injuries.

RunKC 05-26-2022 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16309083)
Not just beat them out though, he's gotta be that much better than them to get a chance as an UDFA. I mean, he's gonna have to have an unreal camp to get into the top 4 options.

I'd imagine a more likely scenario is one of those late camp "injuries".

I think he’s already impressing the team a lot more than any other rookie. When your QB and TE are praising your work on Twitter that says a lot. I think it’s a foregone conclusion he makes the team.

And he should. He’s extremely talented but fell into injuries. And he’s providing that talent again.

I think he’ll be battling Skyy for the 4th receiver spot bc these old broken vets like Coleman and Gordon are just fodder.

I have been burned on these UDRFA guys before (Jamal Custis!) but Ross was a legitimate 1st rd talent. He was amazing as a Freshman and Sophomore. I think this could be a huge steal for us

RaidersOftheCellar 05-26-2022 08:16 AM

I think Hardman could have a pretty big year. He’s been under utilized because of Hill. He can do a lot of the same things.

O.city 05-26-2022 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16309104)
I think he’s already impressing the team a lot more than any other rookie. When your QB and TE are praising your work on Twitter that says a lot. I think it’s a foregone conclusion he makes the team.

And he should. He’s extremely talented but fell into injuries. And he’s providing that talent again.

I think he’ll be battling Skyy for the 4th receiver spot bc these old broken vets like Coleman and Gordon are just fodder.

I have been burned on these UDRFA guys before (Jamal Custis!) but Ross was a legitimate 1st rd talent. He was amazing as a Freshman and Sophomore. I think this could be a huge steal for us

I think Andy and Co are about as good as any team at not caring about draft status etc, but Moore is gonna get every opportunity being where he was picked etc.

The thing Ross will have against him too is that those 5th and 6th Wr's usually play special teams. Now, he's an UDFA so thems the breaks sometimes and you gotta make bones somehwere first (Albert Wilson did) usually on special teams.

I'm hopeful for the guy, but it's always just such a damn long shot.

Eleazar 05-26-2022 08:34 AM

Seems like a candidate to be an IR stash for the season and may not see the light of day until next year.

staylor26 05-26-2022 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16309127)
I think Andy and Co are about as good as any team at not caring about draft status etc, but Moore is gonna get every opportunity being where he was picked etc.

The thing Ross will have against him too is that those 5th and 6th Wr's usually play special teams. Now, he's an UDFA so thems the breaks sometimes and you gotta make bones somehwere first (Albert Wilson did) usually on special teams.

I'm hopeful for the guy, but it's always just such a damn long shot.

Lol he’s making the team dude

tredadda 05-26-2022 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 16309106)
I think Hardman could have a pretty big year. He’s been under utilized because of Hill. He can do a lot of the same things.

He’s under utilized because Mahomes doesn’t seem to fully trust him. He should win against #2 or #3 CBs, and he doesn’t always do that. I hope I am wrong, but I don’t think he will dominate against #1 CBs. He is a great gimmick and gadget player. I hope I am wrong and he truly steps up this year and becomes the WR the Chiefs hoped he would be when they drafted him.

Shields68 05-26-2022 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16309127)
I think Andy and Co are about as good as any team at not caring about draft status etc, but Moore is gonna get every opportunity being where he was picked etc.

The thing Ross will have against him too is that those 5th and 6th Wr's usually play special teams. Now, he's an UDFA so thems the breaks sometimes and you gotta make bones somehwere first (Albert Wilson did) usually on special teams.

I'm hopeful for the guy, but it's always just such a damn long shot.

Yep I think it is up hill battle if he can not handle special teams or not great there. Though I can also see, where 28 teams did not clear him physically that he has a great chance to be easily stashed on the practice squad for the year. The 3 other teams looking to grab him presumably would have the same problem of keeping a rookie wr who is not a special team options..

tredadda 05-26-2022 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16309127)
I think Andy and Co are about as good as any team at not caring about draft status etc, but Moore is gonna get every opportunity being where he was picked etc.

The thing Ross will have against him too is that those 5th and 6th Wr's usually play special teams. Now, he's an UDFA so thems the breaks sometimes and you gotta make bones somehwere first (Albert Wilson did) usually on special teams.

I'm hopeful for the guy, but it's always just such a damn long shot.

I believe the Chiefs find a way to keep him. He is no Sippio here. He was a Top 15 pick had he not struggled with injuries. The Chiefs know what he brings and will find a way to put him on the roster.

MIAdragon 05-26-2022 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 16309106)
I think Hardman could have a pretty big year. He’s been under utilized because of Hill. He can do a lot of the same things.

Lmfao.

Chris Meck 05-26-2022 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 16308613)
If the Chiefs' plan is transition Karlaftis AKA "Yogurt" to DT then he could he could be very good but as a DE he's average.


Terrible take. Just mind numbingly bad

Hoover 05-26-2022 09:56 AM

At the end of the day if you if you want to judge Ross and Moore, just see how they stack up to the following stat line.

83 targets, 61 rec, 593 yards, 6 TDs.

That's Tyreek's rookie season rec stats. Frankly that's what I'm also judging JuJu and MVS by too. The question in my mind is how many of our WRs amass that?

New World Order 05-26-2022 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 16309257)
At the end of the day if you if you want to judge Ross and Moore, just see how they stack up to the following stat line.

83 targets, 61 rec, 593 yards, 6 TDs.

That's Tyreek's rookie season rec stats. Frankly that's what I'm also judging JuJu and MVS by too. The question in my mind is how many of our WRs amass that?

I think Hardman had something similar to that as well.

Chris Meck 05-26-2022 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 16309257)
At the end of the day if you if you want to judge Ross and Moore, just see how they stack up to the following stat line.

83 targets, 61 rec, 593 yards, 6 TDs.

That's Tyreek's rookie season rec stats. Frankly that's what I'm also judging JuJu and MVS by too. The question in my mind is how many of our WRs amass that?

That would be a below average healthy season for Juju, it would be very similar to Hardman's 2021 season, and a high projection for MVS.

On THIS team, I seriously doubt any rookie with Hardman, Juju, and MVS in front of them just due to being veterans is going to get that many targets. It's possible, but unlikely.

More likely is you take those 83 targets, and you split them between Moore and Ross (although I'm excited about Ross, I'm still skeptical due to his injury history. I sure hope those injuries are in his past.)

of course, it's possible that they just eat that playbook up and are ready to play full snaps much faster than normal, but that's just not typical in Reid's offense.

Where Moore and hopefully Ross are going to really pay dividends is in 2023, because if they look good, you let Juju and Hardman walk and are in good shape.

Coochie liquor 05-26-2022 10:06 AM

Another player to help Patrick beat the TD record, and get him NFL MVP, and SB MVP. Patrick is gonna have more weapons at his disposal than any season before. I’m seeing a record or 2 being broken. I want an 8 td performance over Dungver!

O.city 05-26-2022 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16309151)
Lol he’s making the team dude

So lay out how it goes. Is he the 5th or 6th WR and plays special teams? I'd guess he doesn't get up higher than that this year right?

I'm hopeful he does and becomes a legit player, I'm just curious how it's gonna play out.

O.city 05-26-2022 10:10 AM

Rookie WR's come in the league every year and have great seasons. I'm kinda over the "Reid's playbook" excuse.

Rainbarrel 05-26-2022 10:10 AM

Simplifying the playbook for so many new additions. Gives Gray some room

ToxSocks 05-26-2022 10:12 AM

I can envision him cutting into JuJu's reps by mid season. He won't be competing with Hardman and Moore. They serve entirely different roles.

The Franchise 05-26-2022 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16309277)
So lay out how it goes. Is he the 5th or 6th WR and plays special teams? I'd guess he doesn't get up higher than that this year right?

I'm hopeful he does and becomes a legit player, I'm just curious how it's gonna play out.

They're probably keeping 6 WRs.

Juju
MVS
Moore
Hardman
Ross

That leaves your 6th WR to play STs. That probably is a guy like Fountain, Watson or Coleman.

Chris Meck 05-26-2022 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16309281)
Rookie WR's come in the league every year and have great seasons. I'm kinda over the "Reid's playbook" excuse.

Well, you can be 'over it' if you want to, but in Reid's offense if you want to have more than a 'package of plays' role, you have to be able to execute each position.

A big part of Reid's offense is being able move guys around and confuse a defense.

the pro of that: It's difficult to defend when anyone can be doing anything on any given snap.

The con of that: It puts a load of information on the skill position players. Lotta gigabytes, as Andy used to say.

O.city 05-26-2022 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16309288)
Well, you can be 'over it' if you want to, but in Reid's offense if you want to have more than a 'package of plays' role, you have to be able to execute each position.

A big part of Reid's offense is being able move guys around and confuse a defense.

the pro of that: It's difficult to defend when anyone can be doing anything on any given snap.

The con of that: It puts a load of information on the skill position players. Lotta gigabytes, as Andy used to say.

I think it's a bullshit excuse to make for guys who aren't good enough. If a guy is good enough, it seems like "Andy's playbook" isn't hard to digest (Tyreek his rookie year, Maclin early in Philly etc).

O.city 05-26-2022 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16309287)
They're probably keeping 6 WRs.

Juju
MVS
Moore
Hardman
Ross

That leaves your 6th WR to play STs. That probably is a guy like Fountain, Watson or Coleman.

Does the 5th WR usually play specials as well? I can't remember.


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