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TwistedChief 02-25-2024 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 17417347)
I didn't assume that but nice try from the peanut gallery.

It's just ironic that trading away our first round pick, an ALL-PRO and best coverman in the NFL in Sneed and another high pick and another receiver is such a great trade.

Maybe you and the Franchise can apply together to the Chiefs as the Abbott and Costello GM Dream Team.

Two ****ing know-it-alls on every subject. :harumph:

Is it hard to understand that we don’t have control over Sneed beyond a 1yr contract on the franchise tag where we have to take the entire cost of the contract under this year’s cap? And perhaps he decides to hold out for training camp in disappointment? Do you think that’s the same as just trading him away on a cheap deal when we have years of control beyond that?

A 2025 3rd is equivalent to a 2024 4th. That’s a day 3 pick, not “another high pick” according to you.

You have no idea what you’re talking about. Go back to your lunches and experiences in the 1980s.

Bearcat 02-25-2024 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 17417347)
I didn't assume that but nice try from the peanut gallery.

It's just ironic that trading away our first round pick, an ALL-PRO and best coverman in the NFL in Sneed and another high pick and another receiver is such a great trade.

Maybe you and the Franchise can apply together to the Chiefs as the Abbott and Costello GM Dream Team.

Two ****ing know-it-alls on every subject. :harumph:

This is what the Bears gave up to move up 8 spots last year and (afaik) were guaranteed 3 years with Moore instead of 1 year of Sneed.

So yeah, moving up 30 spots would be more than 1 year of Sneed, trading 1st round picks, a 3rd, and not-even-JAG level receiver.


Chicago traded a first-round selection (1st) to Carolina in exchange for

WR D. J. Moore (3 years, not 1),
first- and second-round selections (9th and 61st),
2024 first-round and
2025 second-round selections

Hell, when the Chiefs grabbed Mahomes, they had to give up an additional 1st round pick to move up 17 spots just to 10th.

scho63 02-25-2024 09:35 PM

Justin Jefferson is going to want to be THE HIGHEST PAID WR IN THE LEAGUE.

Marvin Harrison would be on a rookie contract.

You and Franchise's happy meal deal we would give up a 1st, a 3rd, a WR and the best cover corner in the NFL with Sneed PLUS pay the most expensive contract to a WR.

Yes, we only "control" Sneed for 1 year, just like we did with Chris Jones. Worked out OK right?

Then you try to tell me my idea is stupid and you and Franchise have agreement that you think your deal is so great.

I think you're wearing rose colored glasses.

That deal is neither cheap nor great for the Chiefs.

TwistedChief 02-25-2024 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17417369)
This is what the Bears gave up to move up 8 spots last year and (afaik) were guaranteed 3 years with Moore instead of 1 year of Sneed.

So yeah, moving up 30 spots would be more than 1 year of Sneed, trading 1st round picks, a 3rd, and not-even-JAG level receiver.


Chicago traded a first-round selection (1st) to Carolina in exchange for

WR D. J. Moore (3 years, not 1),
first- and second-round selections (9th and 61st),
2024 first-round and
2025 second-round selections

Hell, when the Chiefs grabbed Mahomes, they had to give up an additional 1st round pick to move up 17 spots just to 10th.

Yup. And this year has what's presumed to be a generational receiver as well as 3 possible QBs who could go top-3. The value of those first few picks is through the absolute roof.

This isn't any generic year as it relates to those top few picks. It's probably one of the deepest top-10 drafts in awhile as well.

TwistedChief 02-25-2024 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 17417371)
Justin Jefferson is going to want to be THE HIGHEST PAID WR IN THE LEAGUE.

Marvin Harrison would be on a rookie contract.

You and Franchise's happy meal deal we would give up a 1st, a 3rd, a WR and the best cover corner in the NFL with Sneed PLUS pay the most expensive contract to a WR.

Yes, we only "control" Sneed for 1 year, just like we did with Chris Jones. Worked out OK right?

Then you try to tell me my idea is stupid and you and Franchise have agreement that you think your deal is so great.

I think you're wearing rose colored glasses.

That deal is neither cheap nor great for the Chiefs.

LOLLLLLLL.... What don't you understand here?

The deal Franchise put forward almost certainly wouldn't be enough for JJ.

But there's absolutely no way, shape, or form it would be enough for Marvin Harrison Jr.

Everyone on this board would rather have the latter for that comp proposal. But it's not even remotely close.

Try to keep up here. This isn't a discussion between our rather having JJ instead. It's your telling him that what he put forward for JJ is anything remotely close to what it would take to move up for 3 in the draft.

We don't have rose-colored glasses. You're just blind and don't even understand it.

Tribal Warfare 02-25-2024 09:42 PM

If we do trade Sneed it'll be for a 1st round pick in the draft to select a top tier WR prospect, or by a miracle packaging him for Joe Alt

BossChief 02-25-2024 09:43 PM

Mahomes is going to have his passing camp and have even more guys showing up now that they have seen what it did for Rice. He will give Veach a group of 5-6 of them that he gives his stamp of approval on after a visit, medicals, combine results etc are factored in.

Veach will order those guys into his “pocket” of guys he targets in the draft. Once that pocket is down to 2-3, he will begin making calls to prepare for a trade up, if needed.

I’d be excited about adding a guy like JJ to this offense and agree it would probably make this offense nearly unstoppable, but it would mean we would lose CJ95 for only a comp pick and the trade would also cost us at least 2 firsts and a third.

The question here, is would JJ offer us more impact to the bottom line than CJ95 and 2 firsts?

I don’t think he would.

dlphg9 02-25-2024 09:46 PM

The dumbasses just keep looking dumber.

Bearcat 02-25-2024 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 17417371)
Justin Jefferson is going to want to be THE HIGHEST PAID WR IN THE LEAGUE.

Marvin Harrison would be on a rookie contract.

You and Franchise's happy meal deal we would give up a 1st, a 3rd, a WR and the best cover corner in the NFL with Sneed PLUS pay the most expensive contract to a WR.

Yes, we only "control" Sneed for 1 year, just like we did with Chris Jones. Worked out OK right?

Then you try to tell me my idea is stupid and you and Franchise have agreement that you think your deal is so great.

I think you're wearing rose colored glasses.

That deal is neither cheap nor great for the Chiefs.

I think the only point of contention was whether trading up to #3 would cost more than Sneed, #32, a 3rd rounder, and some shitty receiver.

Not whether either was good or bad or indifferent, expensive, cheap, similar to Chris Jones, etc.

And seems like you're completely missing the point of 'controlling Sneed'. Trading someone with 1 year left isn't a ton of value, especially if the Chiefs know they can't resign him anyway. You'd need significantly more value than someone the Vikings may see go away after 1 season to trade up to #3.

Bearcat 02-25-2024 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17417383)
The dumbasses just keep looking dumber.

I think if we keep going though, someone's winning an amazon gift card tomorrow.

scho63 02-25-2024 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17417385)
I think the only point of contention was whether trading up to #3 would cost more than Sneed, #32, a 3rd rounder, and some shitty receiver.

Not whether either was good or bad or indifferent, expensive, cheap, similar to Chris Jones, etc.

And seems like you're completely missing the point of 'controlling Sneed'. Trading someone with 1 year left isn't a ton of value, especially if the Chiefs know they can't resign him anyway. You'd need significantly more value than someone the Vikings may see go away after 1 season to trade up to #3.

I don't need the deals to be equal or "value" have to be so perfect.

Just trying to show both are very costly and the deal recommended in this thread ain;t cheap by any means.

scho63 02-25-2024 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17417383)
The dumbasses just keep looking dumber.

And the blowhards always come out just in time.

TwistedChief 02-25-2024 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 17417396)
I don't need the deals to be equal or "value" have to be so perfect.

Just trying to show both are very costly and the deal recommended in this thread ain;t cheap by any means.

Nice recovery attempt but this isn’t reality. You are out of the running for the Amazon gift card!

Wallcrawler 02-25-2024 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17417383)
The dumbasses just keep looking dumber.

You started a thread saying the chiefs should pay OBJ elite money, that he deserved it, and that he was too good and too young to let go.

You calling anyone a dumbass is ****ing rich. Never change, dilphag9.

Bearcat 02-25-2024 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 17417398)
And the blowhards always come out just in time.

It's another case where several people are all telling you the same thing and you assume it's everyone else who are the idiots.

Are you trashed?

It's okay (and recommended) to admit you're trashed when you aren't even following a conversation that you started..... or, just as likely, you poorly stated a point and are now backpedaling.


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