ya I watched the first trailer in the OP and didn't think it really looked that good. I'd watch it if it were on amazon but that's about it.

I did see some movie with Phoenix in it recently about him being some weird hit man and I made it through the entire movie, so I was entertained.

Everyone saying it's a masterpiece and Oscar buzz for Phoenix.

@firstshowing: There will be before Joker. And there will be after Joker. I don't know if the world is ready for this movie. Or maybe it is? It is GNARLY. It is crazy. It is audacious. It doesn't hold back. Wow. I can't believe it exists. But it does. And it's coming.

Looks good, but I don't see it being a big box office hit.

Reviews already on RT. Very early but 87% on 32 reviews.

Enormous potential with this one ...

I worry that they've given away too much plot via the trailers, however. There better be a good twist.

FAX

Did they have the balls to make it rated R?

That's what I heard. R for stuff like violence and words and some sexual content.

FAX

Amazing. When it was announced I was quite skeptical because Todd Phillips has only ever done comedies.

The only negative I've seen is that he (Todd Phillips) tried to do too much in one movie. But that's not unusual in entertainment these days. I just finished season one of Carnival Row and while I liked it a lot, they tried to cram about ten different storylines into eight episodes.

Yes, it's apparently a hard R

I generally disapprove of giving this character a back-story.

I prefer the Joker that just randomly makes up his own back story with nobody knowing what is or isn't true. The enigma is part of the fun of the character.

I just hope the 'bastard son of a Trumpian Thomas Wayne' rumors aren't true.

Did I ever tell you how I got these scars?

I’d pretty much pay to see Joaquin read a phone book, this is a no brainer for my $10

8 minute standing ovation at the venice film festival.

It is deeper, darker and more disturbing places than any comic book.