Well they dropped the In and kept the dians. Brilliant Cleveland bravo.

Logo looks like an 80's rock album cover.

As probably the only Indians fan here, I'm not in love with the change. Guardians does have a lot of connection with the city so it was, in my mind, always the most likely change. I probably would have enjoyed the Cleveland Rocks more. I can live with Guardians, but the font and logo and absolute garbage. As Judas mentioned, it looks like an 80s rock album. I don't know who they used for a focus group, but I've seen dozens of better logo designs and fonts using the Guardians.

No doubt, they have some pretty cool iconography. I just.. eh. Sports team mascots turn into caricatures pretty quickly. It's best not to involve figures from religions that are actively being practiced since they can easily be seen as making a mockery of something pretty serious to a lot of people.

As a loose example, I don't think the anti-woke Christian crowd here in America would love it if they found out a soccer team in Vietnam went by the name of the Water Walkers and Jesus was their mascot. At the games, people would show up with bloody crowns of thorns and fake nails in their hands and feet.

Mascot could be a bipolar, lesbian that goes 50/50 on depression and anger for the game length with no personality other than to bitch and whine about how there's only men on the field.

Kraken has a pretty sweet logo too

Traffic, weirdly enough. These are the Guardians. They're on a bridge in Cleveland.

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http://www.pauldudagallery.com/image...ardian-182.jpg

http://www.pauldudagallery.com/image...ardian-182.jpg

They never even gave us a chance to provide input. Ermines it is.

That sounds awesome.

I'd cheer for them!

this is awesome idea, and should have been used!

who is going to believe they can beat the son of god!!!!

Errrrmineeees!

I think the team has done a decent job of minimizing the Native imagery that is more problematic than the name itself, but I won't be the least bit upset if they do go ahead and change it. Monarchs would be perfect and worth buying from the former T-Bones. Some other names that could be fun:

• Burnt Ends
• Smokers
• Yardbirds (after Charlie Parker)
• Nighthawks (after the Coon-Sanders Original Nighthawk Orchestra, which was the first KC jazz band to gain national prominence. Please do not suggest any of the other words in the band's name)
• Fountaineers (okay this one is stupid but still kinda fun imho)
• Steamboats (after the Arabia and also "Arabians" would not go over well)
• Tornadoes (why isn't there a major pro team called the Tornadoes???)
• Unions, Scouts, Kings (former KC sport team names that would work well)
• Mobsters (celebrating KC's organized crime history!)
• Sevillians (celebrating KC's sister city, Seville, Spain)
• Barbers (like The Barber of Seville??)

I dunno man, I get the appeal of Tradition and all that, but I simply don't feel threatened by the prospect of a name change. If anything, it's an opportunity for something new and fun. I think we would all get used to it a lot quicker than we think, too. Either way I'm not losing sleep over it!

People love to say this but it simply isn't true. If you actually cared about whether Natives are offended by the mascots and logos, you'd do ten seconds of research and find plenty of writing from Natives who explain why they are. Like this guy:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So the <a href="https://twitter.com/MLB?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MLB</a> team Cleveland are changing their name from the <a href="https://twitter.com/Indians?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Indians</a> to the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Guardians?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Guardians</a>.<br><br>As a Native journalist that has covered sports and Native mascots for years -- I am so glad to say goodbye to the horrendous image of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefWahoo?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefWahoo</a> <br><br>Here are my thoughts in a <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/thread?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#thread</a> <a href="https://t.co/QaHcjvlPzB">pic.twitter.com/QaHcjvlPzB</a></p>&mdash; Vincent Schilling (@VinceSchilling) <a href="https://twitter.com/VinceSchilling/status/1418615210689052677?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 23, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He acknowledges that he doesn't speak for all Native people and that some don't care. But his larger point is that these names and logos tend to warp people's perceptions of Native history and traditions, which contributes to their overall erasure. I personally think that's reason enough to change them, or to at least for teams to connect with local tribes to work on ways to actually "honor" their history. "You're racist if you root for the Chiefs" is not helpful or true, but it's also not what most Native people who speak on the subject are saying. They would just like a little respect, and considering our history, we owe them at least that much, imho.

(Also, the Native people who don't care about this subject tend to focus on much more pressing issues instead, and I get the feeling that most of the white people who lose their shit over sports team name changes would not love the Native solutions to those problems, either...)